Young Children detained under the Mental Health Act 1983

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Dear Birmingham City Council,

In relation to children living in the Local Authority area, and for the last 12 months that records are held please state:

1. How many girls/boys were detained under the Mental health Act
1983 who, on the day they were first admitted were:
A. Aged under 12
B. aged between 12 and 13
C. Aged between 13 and 14
D. Aged between 14 and 15
E. aged 15 and 16
F aged between 16 and 17
G. Aged between 17 and 18.

2. In relation to children relevant to 1B p(children admitted when 12 years old) please state how long they were detained prior to release ie
A <28 days
B >28 days <3 months
C. >3 months <6months
D.>6months < 1 year
E. >1 year <2 years
F. >2 years
G still detained.

3. How many children have died while detained under the Mental Health Act 1983. For the children who have died please state:
A. Was the child a "looked after child"
B. the age and gender of the child
C. The diagnosis given to the child.
D. The period that the child had been detained before death.
E. the cause of death.

Please provide the information in whatever format available to be
able to respond as fully possible.

Yours faithfully,

Sophie

Tracey Robinson, Birmingham City Council

Dear Sophie

 

Thank you for your request for information held by the Council under the
provisions of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 which was received on
04/11/2013.

 

We will contact you again once it has been ascertained what data is held
by Birmingham City Council.  In some circumstances a fee may be payable
and if that is the case, we will let you know.  A fees notice will be
issued to you, and you will be required to pay before we will proceed with
your request.

 

If you require any further information or are not happy with our response
please do not hesitate to contact me quoting the reference number above in
any future communications.  Steve Cullen should also be copied in on any
correspondence relating to this request.

 

Yours sincerely

Tracey Robinson

Business Continuity and Information Governance Officer

 

 

Sent on behalf of:

Steve Cullen

Information Governance Manager

Governance and Policy

Children, Young People and Families Directorate

Birmingham City Council

 

Tel: 0121 464 4591

Email: [email address]

 

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Tracey Robinson, Birmingham City Council

Dear Sophie

 

I am writing in respect of your recent enquiry for information held by the
Authority under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act 2000:

In relation to children living in the Local Authority area, and for the
last 12 months that records are held please state:

 

1. How many girls/boys were detained under the Mental health Act

1983 who, on the day they were first admitted were:

A. Aged under 12

B. aged between 12 and 13

C. Aged between 13 and 14

D. Aged between 14 and 15

E. aged 15 and 16

F aged between 16 and 17

G. Aged between 17 and 18.

 

2. In relation to children relevant to 1B p(children admitted when 12
years old) please state how long they were detained prior to release ie

A <28 days

B >28 days <3 months

C. >3 months <6months

D.>6months < 1 year

E. >1 year <2 years

F. >2 years

G still detained.

 

3. How many children have died while detained under the Mental Health Act
1983. For the children who have died please state:

A. Was the child a "looked after child"

B. the age and gender of the child

C. The diagnosis given to the child.

D. The period that the child had been detained before death.

E. the cause of death.

 

Please provide the information in whatever format available to be

able to respond as fully possible.

 

 

 

Please see response below:

 

We do not hold this data.  Data for question 2 only would be held by
hospitals.

 

If you have any information which may assist us in determining or locating
any missed information, we would be grateful if you would contact us with
details of this information, so that we can conduct a further search.

 

If you are not satisfied with the response you may ask for an internal
review.  If subsequently you are not satisfied with the Council's decision
you may apply to the Information Commissioner for a decision.  Generally,
the ICO cannot make a decision unless you have exhausted the complaints
procedure provided by the Council.  The Information Commissioner can be
contacted at the following address:

 

The Information Commissioner

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

Cheshire

SK9 5AF

 

Telephone: 01625 545745             Web Address: [1]www.ico.gov.uk

 

Yours sincerely,

Tracey Robinson

Business Continuity and Information Governance Officer

 

 

Sent of behalf of:

Steve Cullen

Information governance Manager

Governance and Policy Team

Children Young People and Families Directorate

Birmingham City Council

 

Tel: 0121 464 4591

Email: [2][email address]

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Dear Birmingham City Council,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Birmingham City Council's handling of my FOI request 'Young Children detained under the Mental Health Act 1983'.

Please provide information as to how your data is stored so that my question can be rephrased into a question that can be answered. As you can see I am asking for information relating to children who have been or are still 'Looked after children' and who have then been detained under the mental health act. Please provide as much information as possible.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/y...

Yours faithfully,

Sophie

Birmingham City Council

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Dear Sophie

Please see the attached for your request for an internal review.

(See attached file: Appeal Acknowledgement.doc)

Yours sincerely

Corporate Information Governance Team

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Saroj Rama, Birmingham City Council

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Dear Sophie

 

Please see the attached for your request for an internal review.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Corporate Information Governance Team

Performance & Information Division

10 Woodcock Street

Aston

Birmingham

B7 4BG

0121 303 2080

 

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Tracey Robinson, Birmingham City Council

Dear Sophie

 

I am writing in respect of your recent Internal Review enquiry for
information held by the Authority under the provisions of the Freedom of
Information Act 2000:

 

In relation to children living in the Local Authority area, and for the
last 12 months that records are held please state:

 

1. How many girls/boys were detained under the Mental health Act

1983 who, on the day they were first admitted were:

A. Aged under 12

B. aged between 12 and 13

C. Aged between 13 and 14

D. Aged between 14 and 15

E. aged 15 and 16

F aged between 16 and 17

G. Aged between 17 and 18.

 

2. In relation to children relevant to 1B p(children admitted when 12
years old) please state how long they were detained prior to release ie

A <28 days

B >28 days <3 months

C. >3 months <6months

D.>6months < 1 year

E. >1 year <2 years

F. >2 years

G still detained.

 

3. How many children have died while detained under the Mental Health Act
1983. For the children who have died please state:

A. Was the child a "looked after child"

B. the age and gender of the child

C. The diagnosis given to the child.

D. The period that the child had been detained before death.

E. the cause of death.

 

Please see response below:

 

In relation to children living in the Local Authority area, and for the
last 12 months that records are held please state:

 

1. How many girls/boys were detained under the Mental health Act

1983 who, on the day they were first admitted were:

A. Aged under 12

B. aged between 12 and 13

C. Aged between 13 and 14

D. Aged between 14 and 15

E. aged 15 and 16

F aged between 16 and 17

G. Aged between 17 and 18.

 

 

Response

Although local authorities are responsible for organising the Approved
Mental Health Professional (AMHP) Service for their area they are not
responsible for keeping records on the numbers of people detained under
the Mental Health Act.  This information is collated by hospitals and
returned to the Department of Health.

 

The information is collected via a “KP90” data return collected from the
NHS Trusts and Independent Sector Organisations that provide Mental Health
Services and make use of the Mental Health Act 1983 legislation, as
amended by the Mental Health Act 2007, and other legislation.

 

The data is used to provide the Department of Health with information
about the number of uses made of the Mental Health Act 1983 legislation
and provides a source of briefing on the Act and informs policy
development in relation to the Act. It also provides input to the process
of needs assessment on hospital accommodation requirements.

 

The information is collated by the Health and Social Care Information
Centre (HSCIC).  It is unlikely that their published data will provide the
level of detail required above, but this could be pursued via a FOI
request.

 

 

2. In relation to children relevant to 1B p(children admitted when 12
years old) please state how long they were detained prior to release ie

A <28 days

B >28 days <3 months

C. >3 months <6months

D.>6months < 1 year

E. >1 year <2 years

F. >2 years

G still detained.

 

Response

Again this information is not held by the local authority but may be
obtainable form the HSCIC.  Anecdotal evidence from Birmingham AMHPs
indicates that very few under 14 year olds are detained under the Mental
Health Act – possibly no more than three in Birmingham in the past twelve
months –none of which was a looked after child or subject to special
guardianship.  However no definitive data on this is available locally for
the reasons stated above.

3. How many children have died while detained under the Mental Health Act
1983. For the children who have died please state:

A. Was the child a "looked after child"

B. the age and gender of the child

C. The diagnosis given to the child.

D. The period that the child had been detained before death.

E. the cause of death.

 

Please provide the information in whatever format available to be able to
respond as fully possible.

 

Response:

All child deaths in Birmingham have to be reported to the Birmingham
Safeguarding Children Board, including deaths of children in hospital. 
They should be able to provide this information.

 

Information with regard to looked after children is held on the City
Council Care First database.  There is no electronic ‘tag’ on that system
to allow easy identification of which looked after children have been
subject to detention under the Mental Health Act.   There are around 1900
looked after children with about a 30% turnover each year, so this would
amount to around 2470 files that would need to be looked at manually.  The
chronology for each case would have to be examined and where a hospital
admission was indicated a trawl through case records to identify whether
that was a compulsory admission.  Even allowing an optimistic 5 minutes
per case this would take over 200 hours at a cost of £5,000.00.

 

 

If you have any information which may assist us in determining or locating
any missed information, we would be grateful if you would contact us with
details of this information, so that we can conduct a further search.

 

If you are not satisfied with the response you may ask for an internal
review.  If subsequently you are not satisfied with the Council's decision
you may apply to the Information Commissioner for a decision.  Generally,
the ICO cannot make a decision unless you have exhausted the complaints
procedure provided by the Council.  The Information Commissioner can be
contacted at the following address:

 

The Information Commissioner

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

Cheshire

SK9 5AF

 

Telephone: 01625 545745             Web Address: [1]www.ico.gov.uk

 

Yours sincerely,

Tracey Robinson

Business Continuity and Information Governance Officer

 

 

Sent of behalf of:

Steve Cullen

Information Governance Manager

Governance and Policy Team

Children Young People and Families Directorate

Birmingham City Council

 

Tel: 0121 464 4591

Email: [2][email address]

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