Working bus timetables

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Roger green-williamson

Dear Transport for London,

Please may I have a up to date working timetable for route 81, As it has changed operators and the times have changed.
Many thanks

Yours faithfully,

Mr Roger Green-Williamson

M Clary left an annotation ()

I simply observe that if the weekly update cycle for working timetable publication had been kept to the 81 schedules would have been available on the website before now.

The weekly update has been missed for the third week running. TfL can't legitimately say "yes, we plan to publish in (say) October so it is exempt" because the 81 schedules available then might have changed again, so the documents specifically requested would NOT be published.

In other words, the failure of the update cycle is negating one of the purposes of publication, which was to avoid the FOI team being swamped by individual ad hoc requests.

Roger green-williamson

Dear Transport for London,
Please can you update me when this is working
Thank you

Yours faithfully,

Roger green-williamson

Tom Farooqi left an annotation ()

Michael,

I stick by what I said last week in a an email, if you didnt write to them about some incorrect WTTs, we would still have the weekly update! its been to have the full update with some in-correct then having no update at all.

Some how I feel TFL wont do nothinga bout this now and leave it be!

FOI, Transport for London

Dear Mr Green-Williamson,

Where requests do not constitute a FOI request you should use the contact details listed here to contact our customer services department: https://tfl.gov.uk/help-and-contact/

Having checked the website I found no fault with accessing the bus working timetables.

Yours sincerely

Lee Hill
Information Access Manager

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Tom Farooqi left an annotation ()

Lee,

The WTTs have not been updated in 4 weeks now, the 81 schedules Roger refers to are the old London United ones, the route is now operated by Metroline and the updated WTTs has not been published.

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/bus.d...

The same applies for last few weeks, other routes not been updated either.

Regards
Tom

M Clary left an annotation ()

If the WTT system was working properly, the FOI request would be unnecessary.
But it isn't working properly. For several months, obsolete WTTs were overwriting the correct ones on the TfL site. At its worst 15-20% were wrong.
This was put right in the 15th July update but since then there have been no updates at all. Leave it long enough and we'll be up to 15% wrong again.
It seems to me that if you wish to avoid returning to the days of multiple FOI requests someone needs to get a grip of this.

FOI, Transport for London

Dear Mr Green-Williamson

 

TfL Ref: 1370-1920

 

Thank you for your request received by Transport for London (TfL) on 5
August 2019 asking for information about the bus route 81 timetable.

 

Your request will be processed in accordance with the requirements of the
Freedom of Information Act and our information access policy. 

 

A response will be sent to you by 3 September.

 

We publish a substantial range of information on our website on subjects
including operational performance, contracts, expenditure, journey data,
governance and our financial performance. This includes data which is
frequently asked for in FOI requests or other public queries. Please check
[1]http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transpar... to see if this helps you.

 

We will publish anonymised versions of requests and responses on the
[2]www.tfl.gov.uk website. We will not publish your name and we will send
a copy of the response to you before it is published on our website.

 

In the meantime, if you would like to discuss this matter further, please
do not hesitate to contact me.

Yours sincerely

 

Sara Thomas

FOI Case Management Team

General Counsel

Transport for London

 

 

Working bus timetables

 

Please may I have a up to date working timetable for route 81, As it has
changed operators and the times have changed.

Many thanks

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FOI, Transport for London

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Dear Mr Green-Williamson

 

TfL Ref: 1370-1920

 

Thank you for your request received by Transport for London (TfL) on 5
August 2019 asking for information about the bus route 81 timetable.

 

Your request has been considered in accordance with the requirements of
the Freedom of Information Act and our information access policy.  I can
confirm that we hold the information you require.

 

Please find the route 81 schedules attached. These are normally published
on our website at:
[1]https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/publication...
however there is currently a technical issue which is with our digital
team which is preventing certain updated schedules from being uploaded
correctly.  

 

If this is not the information you are looking for, or if you are unable
to access it for any reason, please do not hesitate to contact me.

 

Please see the attached information sheet for details of your right to
appeal as well as information on copyright and what to do if you would
like to re-use any of the information we have disclosed.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Sara Thomas

FOI Case Management Team

General Counsel

Transport for London

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: FOI
Sent: 07 August 2019 14:20
To: '[FOI #594975 email]'
Subject: RE: foi ref 1370-1920

 

Dear Mr Green-Williamson

 

TfL Ref: 1370-1920

 

Thank you for your request received by Transport for London (TfL) on 5
August 2019 asking for information about the bus route 81 timetable.

 

Your request will be processed in accordance with the requirements of the
Freedom of Information Act and our information access policy.

 

A response will be sent to you by 3 September.

 

We publish a substantial range of information on our website on subjects
including operational performance, contracts, expenditure, journey data,
governance and our financial performance. This includes data which is
frequently asked for in FOI requests or other public queries. Please check
[2]http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transpar... to see if this helps you.

 

We will publish anonymised versions of requests and responses on the
[3]www.tfl.gov.uk website. We will not publish your name and we will send
a copy of the response to you before it is published on our website.

 

In the meantime, if you would like to discuss this matter further, please
do not hesitate to contact me.

Yours sincerely

 

Sara Thomas

FOI Case Management Team

General Counsel

Transport for London

 

 

Working bus timetables

 

Please may I have a up to date working timetable for route 81, As it has
changed operators and the times have changed.

Many thanks

show quoted sections

 

References

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1. https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/publication...
2. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transpar...
3. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/
4. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/about-tfl/