Work Placements on the Work Programme

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From: Name removed 30 November 2012 (Account suspended)

13 August 2011

Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

A recent response has been made by the DWP in relation to work
placements on the work programme, which stated:
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The Work Programme gives providers the flexibility to design
innovative and personalised approaches to help participants back
into sustained work. This may or may not include a period of work
related activity, but Work Programme providers are not required to
inform DWP or Jobcentre Plus of the names of any organisations used
for this activity.
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Surely this is open to abuse?

If Providers do not have to inform DWP who they use in these 'work
placements' they could be taking back-handers (excuse the
colloquial expression) from certain 'employers' who have found a
great new way to save money.

Instead of actually 'employing' someone, they will have the 'use'
of slave labour namely lots of Jobseekers, who will do the same
work for free, with a continuing and rolling supply of new and
fresh people sent from those Providers every few weeks.

What safeguards has the DWP in place, if any, that will ensure that
JSA Claimants, are not abused in such a manner?

Because if I was a local employer and I needed more help, why would
I want to employ someone on a wage, when I could get people for
free - from the DWP?

Yours deeply concerned,

Ms M E Jackson

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Ian Wolf left an annotation (13 August 2011)

Quote-marks It is possible to obtain the names of placement providers see:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/77...

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Mr Taylor left an annotation (13 August 2011)

Quote-marks I would imagine that when a person is allocated forced labour under threat of withdrawal of benefits that person is likely to become rather clumsy and accident prone, and should he/she sustain injury whilst on business premises this could not only prove potentially very expensive for the owner of that business, but also leave the business owner and possibly the DWP open to possible prosecution, especially if the "employer" wasn't complying with Health & Safety regulations to the letter. However, I have little doubt that the "volunteer" would be most vigilant and more than willing to report the slightest of breaches of H&S to the Health & Safety Executive.

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Name removed 30 November 2012 (Account suspended) left an annotation (14 August 2011)

Quote-marks Thanks guys.

But the list, I thought, just applied to around and about Islington, and hey - thought they didn't place people in positions that would required a CRB check, like schools and hospitals and working with old folk.

And Mr Taylor - you and I think alike.

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31 August 2011


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From: Name removed 30 November 2012 (Account suspended)

31 August 2011

Dear DWP Adelphi Freedom-of-Information-Request,

Your reply states:
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Work placements provide people, many of whom may have been out of
work for a long time, with the opportunity to get used to returning
to a working environment. Rather than exploitation this provides a
useful stepping stone back to employment. Furthermore, a placement
does not affect benefit.

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It is exploitation and if local companies know they will get a
rolling stock of fresh jobseekeers every 4-weeks, why would they
bother employing anyone for real money?

And if people really do believe that by being forced to work for
free will enhance a person's prospect of future employment, they
are clearly in LA LA land.

And based on the assumption that slavery was aboloished many years
ago, why not give people an honest and proper reminder about what
work can give them, which I believe may even be called 'wages'.

I for one will not ever work for anyone for nothing.

Yours sincerely,

Maxine Jackson

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Mr Taylor left an annotation (31 August 2011)

Quote-marks If you feel you are being exploited firstly complain to the exploiter.
If you remain dissatisfied with their response then complain to the organisation who threatened to stop your benefits in order to force you into the situation of being exploited in the first place.

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Name removed 30 November 2012 (Account suspended) left an annotation (31 August 2011)

Quote-marks Thanks for your advice but at post 60-years of age and reaching retirement in under a year, the last thing I want is 'long term employment', which is how the Provider letters begin. I just want a little job, but there do not appear to be many around right now.

I am sure after a whole lifetime of working I do not need to work for free for 4-weeks in order to know how to stack shelves.

I will not be exploited, because I have already made the decision not to agree to be placed with an employer for 4-weeks for free to begin with and if anyone does agree to this, more fool them.

And if eveyone had the courage to do that, this tory ideal would not get off the ground.

If I am placed in the position of having no money for food, I will simply shoplift to sustain life and if I get a criminal record, so what, I retire in under a year anyway so in the words of Rhett Butlet 'I dont give a dam'...

After what I have been put through in recent years atthe hands of our so called betters, I really am past caring because my experiences have taught me, there are far more corrupt people in so called 'high office' than a perspon who steals food because they have no money to buy it

It will be just a shame that if I have to resort to such measures, that if caught I will 'not' be sent or deported to Australia, because I hear it's better over there than it is in the Country that we inhabit that used to be 'great but is no longer.

I am sorry if this upsets anyone, but I prefer to say it as it is.

Its ok for those people in 'high office' to lie and cheat, and 'continue' to collect their HUGE publicly funded salaries, but if a person already battered by life, who is trying to get by on Jobseeker's Allowance has their money removed because they will not work for free,that just goes to show what a shit country this really is.

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Mr Taylor left an annotation (31 August 2011)

Quote-marks And it would cost them £38.000 a year to keep you in prison if they caught you Maxine, and who knows whilst on the inside someone might teach you how to get away with it next time, like they did with their expenses.

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Name removed 30 November 2012 (Account suspended) left an annotation ( 7 October 2011)

Quote-marks Thank you for your annotation Mr/Ms Jefferson.

Everyone has a right to their opinions - even you.

Kind Regards

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Name removed 30 November 2012 (Account suspended) left an annotation ( 7 October 2011)

Quote-marks Thank you for your annotation Mr/Ms Jefferson.

Everyone has a right to their opinions - even you.

Kind Regards

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Name removed 30 November 2012 (Account suspended) left an annotation ( 7 October 2011)

Quote-marks Thank you for your annotation Mr/Ms Jefferson.

Everyone has a right to their opinions - even you.

Kind Regards

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Name removed 30 November 2012 (Account suspended) left an annotation ( 7 October 2011)

Quote-marks J. Jefferson

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I wonder who 'you' can be but you clearly joined just to annotate in relation to me. How sad.

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P. Wilkinson left an annotation ( 7 October 2011)

Quote-marks Mr Jefferson,
vol·un·tar·y (vln-tr)
adj.
1. Done or undertaken of one's own free will: a voluntary decision to leave the job.
2. Acting or done willingly and without constraint or expectation of reward: a voluntary hostage; voluntary community work.
3. Normally controlled by or subject to individual volition: voluntary muscle contractions.
4. Capable of making choices; having the faculty of will.
5. Supported by contributions or charitable donations rather than by government appropriations: voluntary hospitals.
6. Law
a. Without legal obligation or consideration: a voluntary conveyance of property.
b. Done deliberately; intentional: voluntary manslaughter.http://www.thefreedictionary.com/voluntary

I do not think DWP making decisions on behalf of the unemployed falls into the category of voluntary work.

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Name removed 30 November 2012 (Account suspended) left an annotation ( 7 October 2011)

Quote-marks Thank you for your annotation. It is appreciated.

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J. Jefferson left an annotation ( 7 October 2011)

Quote-marks P Wilkinson, thank you for reminding me what the word voluntary means. You have served a great purpose. Now try expanding that to "Voluntary Work" ie giving something back to the community rather than throwing genuine positive opportunities back into the faces of those that offer them just to make a point.
M Jackson, I might be sad for registering just to comment on your rather strange behaviour on this site, but only just as sad as anyone who feels compelled to look up my history.

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Name removed 30 November 2012 (Account suspended) left an annotation ( 8 October 2011)

Quote-marks You have every right to your opinion 'J Jefferson' but how did you know I was posting on this website, in order to register with the sole intention of annotating my requests.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - silly old you.

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Mrs Cook left an annotation ( 9 October 2011)

Quote-marks Arbeit Macht Frei

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Name removed 30 November 2012 (Account suspended) left an annotation ( 9 October 2011)

Quote-marks Question:

What is meant by Arbeit macht frei and where might it be seen?

Answer:

The most accurate translations of this historic German saying are "work will set you free" and "work liberates".

Signs with this inscription were hung over the main gates of most concentration camps during the "Third Reich". Well known, widely published photos of these signs are those of the entrances to Dachau concentration camp and Auschwitz.

The slogan is older than the Nazi regime and was used in the Weimar Republic in connection with public works projects. Its use at concentration camps was some of kind of sick joke.

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Bret Tom O'Hawks left an annotation (24 October 2011)

Quote-marks The DWP Secretary (the millionaire parliamentary expenses cheat who lied on his CV), Iain Duncan Smith, had this to say on the BBC Breakfast program on 27 May 2010, (see 4:18 on the clip):

"work helps free people"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGY15gSc8OM

Remember: "...if you work with us, you will go through this quite happily and nothing will happen to you..."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/...

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Name removed 30 November 2012 (Account suspended) left an annotation (25 October 2011)

Quote-marks Ian Duncan Smith stated:

"Parents with children between the ages of one and five will face sanctions if they fail to prepare for work when their children go to school, Iain Duncan Smith announced today.

In a sign of the scale of the welfare penalties to be imposed by the government, the work and pensions secretary said that out-of-work parents of young children will be penalised if they fail to keep in touch with their local jobcentre."

Is not being a good parent, with 'time' for your children not enough any more?

Or is this country doomed to more of the same - were the August riots not blamed on ferral youngsters?

How many more young people like this will his Policies create?

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P. Wilkinson left an annotation (25 October 2011)

Quote-marks Hi Maxine
The government are making decisions without caring about the consequences. They are just after a quick fix solution.

http://psychology.about.com/od/profilesa...

John Bowlby was commissioned by the WHO to produce a report on children who were seperated from their parents during the war years. "The resulting work Maternal Care and Mental Health was published in which he wrote “…the infant and young child should experience a warm, intimate, and continuous relationship with his mother (or permanent mother substitute) in which both find satisfaction and enjoyment.” Not likely to happen if children are seperated from their parents for much of the day. It is important for the under 5's to form attachments to primary caregivers in the early years to facilitate attachments in relationships as they grow into adults.
http://teacher.scholastic.com/profession...
Dr Bruce Perry goes into detail the importance of good childrearing practice and the consequences if children do not learn the 6 core strenghts to enable them to be humane.

Those making the decisions have no idea about childrearing and could not care less anyway. They do not have to live in areas where social disorder will arise.

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M Boyce left an annotation ( 6 November 2011)

Quote-marks The Work Programme is just New Deal on the cheap. It will also fail because forcing people to work for nothing benefits only fat-cat business-men who get labour for free. If the last government, and this one too, had not flooded the country with millions of eastern Europeans then there would be jobs for the unemployed. And no that is not racism, it is simple economics.

M Boyce

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