What is the budget for the projected name change for the National Assembly for Wales?

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Dear Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru / National Assembly for Wales,

What is the budget for the projected name change for the National Assembly for Wales?

A survey has been produced - and is already in social media, such as Twitter, but without the necessary financial information that will help the public evaluate whether, or not, the expenditure is justified. Especially since the survey contains 'closed' questions.

Clearly the Assembly will have budgeted in advance for this name change,as it would be holding the public in contempt if the survey was designed to public was made to sign an open chequebook for a such an name change.

With so many social problems in Wales, therefore it is justified - under FOIA - as public interest , to know the budget for the change.

And if possible, how much will be spent on specific expenditure such as design, advertising, the including the cost of write off of the current name in official use ( destruction of all old paperwork, signs etc).

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Jt Oakley

NAfW - Access to Information, Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru / National Assembly for Wales

Dear JT Oakley

Thank you for your request under the Freedom of Information Act. It will be dealt with promptly, and within the statutory timeframe.

Regards,

Buddug

Buddug Saer

Rheolwr Rhyddid Gwybodaeth
Freedom of Information Manager

Ff/T: 0300 200 6544

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NAfW - Access to Information, Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru / National Assembly for Wales

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Dear JT Oakley,

Please see the attached response following your recent request for information.

Regards,

Buddug

Buddug Saer

Rheolwr Rhyddid Gwybodaeth
Freedom of Information Manager

Ff/T: 0300 200 6544

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Dear NAfW - Access to Information,

Thank you for your reply.

This is the paragraph I have located on the information given:

'The precise costs will therefore depend on a range of factors, including the extent of any re-branding or use of any external advisors to achieve the change. They range from approximately £40,000 - £150,000, which would represent between 0.1 and 0.4% of the Commission’s annual budget'.

But the document goes on to say that there is an 'accompanying document',......which I can't seem to find.

Could you please direct me to this document- as this paragraph appears only to refer to the cost of the initial marketing advisors ( which I would guess involves the new design etc) and not the TOTAL cost of the change, which would include destruction of all old entitling, replacing it with the new title.

This would include everything from logos on all documents to signboards etc.

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

NAfW - Access to Information, Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru / National Assembly for Wales

Your welcome.  Please could you copy and paste the full paragraph that you
are referring to as I cannot seem to find it in the [1]Consultation
document.

 

[2]http://www.assembly.wales/NAfW%20Documen...

 

Regards,

 

Buddug

 

Buddug Saer

 

Rheolwr Rhyddid Gwybodaeth

Freedom of Information Manager

Ff/T: 0300 200 6544

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear NAfW - Access to Information,

Thank you once again.

It's on the same page as the above reply, which in quotes.

This is the paragraph I have located on the information given:

'The precise costs will therefore depend on a range of factors, including the extent of any re-branding or use of any external advisors to achieve the change. They range from approximately £40,000 - £150,000, which would represent between 0.1 and 0.4% of the Commission’s annual budget'.

The statement on the memorandum:

As with any legislation, an Assembly Bill to change the name would need to be accompanied by an Explanatory Memorandum, including an analysis of the financial implications.
3 The current proposal is only considering an Assembly Bill to change the name of the institution.

Page 18

http://www.assembly.wales/NAfW%20Documen...

It would therefore seem that the Explanatory Memorandum will have the total costs, rather than just what I believe to be the design/ marketing section of the costs.

So it is this memorandum that I am asking to read since the Welsh people are being asked to vote on the name change - without knowing the total budgeted cost, which will clearly be much more than the initial base costing of £40-150k.

The TOTAL cost would include the negative cost of the destruction of all paperwork and anything with an Assembly logo, since it has already been paid for- it'll be a loss.

Plus the replacement of everything with the old name/logo.

- The aim of this request is to read the whole budget, which must already exist, as -in the current financial climate -the Assembly would clearly not be asking Welsh voters to sign an open chequebook for the proposed name change without a proper costing.

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

NAfW - Access to Information, Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru / National Assembly for Wales

Thank you for clarifying this.

 

The Explanatory Memorandum for this piece of legislation does not exist
yet, so we hold no recorded information.

 

For your information, the Explanatory Memorandum would be published when
the Bill is eventually introduced in the Assembly - at that point we can
make an accurate assessment of costs because we know what the final form
of the Bill will be.  An Explanatory Memorandum is required by the
Assembly’s [1]Standing Orders (SO 26.6-26.6C).

 

Regards,

 

Buddug

 

 

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Dear NAfW - Access to Information,

Thank you.

From your reply, I gather there is no forecast budget data on file on the name change expenditure.

And therefore the Assembly cannot inform voters of the financial implications of the name-change vote....while asking them to vote.

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

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