What is some citizenship or nationality

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Dear Home Office,

In the British Nationalities Act 1981 section 12 subsection 3 it states; "A declaration made by a person in pursuance of this section shall not be registered unless the Secretary of State is satisfied that the person who made it will after the registration have or acquire some citizenship or nationality other than British citizenship; and if that person does not have any such citizenship or nationality on the date of registration and does not acquire some such citizenship or nationality within six months from that date, he shall be, and be deemed to have remained, a British citizen notwithstanding the registration.

1. Could you please provide all relevant information in regards to what degree and where, the home office would classify the person acquiring "some citizenship or nationality"

Question two is would be better described as a general enquiry

In the UK there are a number of societies or cultures if one will that may not have recognised British Citizenship, such as the Amish.

Is it possible to acquire some citizenship or nationality of such a society or culture currently existing in the UK, for legal purposes, yet remain a renounced British citizen residing in the UK

Many thanks

chris

FOI Requests, Home Office

Dear Chris,

 

 

Thank you for contacting the Home Office with your request.

 

This has been assigned to a caseworker (case ref 43995). We will aim to
send you a full response by 16/06/2017 which is twenty working days from
the date we received your request.

 

If you have any questions then please do not hesitate to contact us.

 

 

Thank you,

 

N McKenzie

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Home Office

 

 

 

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Dear Chris,

 

Please find attached the Home Office response to your request. 

 

 

 

Kind Regards

 

J. Douglas

 

Information Rights Team

 

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Dear J. Douglas,

Thank you for your response.

I also have a further question in addition to my initial questions,

How does a person born and registered in a county in the UK actually acquire citizenship.

I hope my signature satisfies your request enough for us to progress forwards.

Kind Regards

C. Holdham

FOI Requests, Home Office

Mr Holdham

Thank you for contacting the Home Office with your request.

This has been assigned to a caseworker (case ref 44267). We will aim to send you a full response by 11/07/2017 which is twenty working days from the date we received your request.

If you have any questions then please do not hesitate to contact us.

Thank you,

J Douglas
FOI Requests
Home Office

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Dear C Holdham,

Please be aware that on this occasion as you are not asking us for recorded information, your correspondence will be handled outside the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act.

You can expect to receive a response from the Department in due course.

Regards
FOI Team,

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Further Nationality Enquiries, Home Office

Dear C. Holdham,

Thank you for the email,

Depending on your current citizenship or nationality, you may be able to apply in several ways. You should read the requirements for each type of application that is relevant and decide which is best for you. If you are unsure if you meet the requirements, you may want to take professional advice from a solicitor or from an immigration adviser registered by the Office of the Immigration Services Commissioner (OISC). A list of suitably qualified advisers can be obtained from the Office of the Immigration Services Commissioner. Their website is at: www.oisc.homeoffice.gov.uk/

Alternatively you may contact them by calling 0345 000 0046.

Please note that as the onus is upon the individual to ensure that he/she satisfies the requirements set out in the guidance material that accompanies each and every application form, the Nationality Group is not able to give, indicate or advise upon the outcome of any such application prior to it being correctly submitted and being given full and careful consideration. Therefore, you are advised to read through the guide prior to submitting a future application.

https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen
https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-ci...
https://www.gov.uk/register-british-citi...

If you believe that you have a claim to British nationality, you can test the strength of your claim by submitting an application for a United Kingdom passport. If you are living in the UK, advice about the passport application process, and relevant forms, can be obtained by calling Her Majesty’s Passport Office on 0300 222 0000 for from: www.gov.uk/browse/abroad/passports

If you are living outside the UK further information may be found at: www.gov.uk/overseas-passports

If you do not wish to apply for a British passport, but require confirmation of your status under British nationality law for another purpose, you may apply to us for a nationality status certificate, using Form NS. Advice about the nationality status certificate application process, and relevant forms, can be obtained from:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/appli...

The fee for this service is currently £234. Your claim will then be considered by a caseworker. If you prove to have an automatic claim you will be issued with a Status Letter.

Regards

M Goode
Central Correspondence team
Customer Service Operations
UK Visas and Immigration
www.gov.uk/ukvi

We would like to hear about your experience and invite you to spend a few moments completing this customer satisfaction survey:
www.homeofficesurveys.homeoffice.gov.uk/...

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Dear Further Nationality Enquiries,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my enquiries. Unfortunately I think the purpose of the enquiries has been misunderstood.

The purpose of the enquiries is predominantly towards renouncing British citizenship and nationality. I am already a citizen and national, however, due to my faith I have some enquiries stated below, to retime if there are some routes that I can take to bring me closer to my beliefs.

Please could you read the statements and questions below.

In the British Nationalities Act 1981 section 12 subsection 3 it states; "A declaration made by a person in pursuance of this section shall not be registered unless the Secretary of State is satisfied that the person who made it will after the registration have or acquire some citizenship or nationality other than British citizenship; and if that person does not have any such citizenship or nationality on the date of registration and does not acquire some such citizenship or nationality within six months from that date, he shall be, and be deemed to have remained, a British citizen notwithstanding the registration.

1. Could you please provide all relevant information in regards to what degree and where, the home office would classify the person acquiring "some citizenship or nationality"

Question two is would be better described as a general enquiry

In the UK there are a number of societies or cultures if one will that may not have recognised British Citizenship, such as the Amish.

Is it possible to acquire some citizenship or nationality of such a society or culture currently existing in the UK, for legal purposes, yet remain a renounced British citizen residing in the UK

Many thanks

C Holdham

Further Nationality Enquiries, Home Office

Thank you for your email to the Further Nationality Enquiries mailbox.
Our service standard for responding to your email is 20 working days.

Every effort will be made to deal with your enquiry within this timescale
and we respectfully request that you do not chase your enquiry within this
time.
Please be advised that if you are seeking progress of your application for
naturalisation and it has been with the Home Office for less than the
published service standard of 6 months we will be unable to provide you
with any further information or give you an update of your application.

If we require further information from you the case-working team will
contact you directly.

International Enquires – Any queries relating to making an application
outside of the UK are not handled by this mailbox and so you will not
receive a response.
For questions about coming to the UK or about an application that is not
related to British nationality that you have already submitted outside of
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where you will find the relevant contact details for contacting the
international enquiry team.

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Further Nationality Enquiries, Home Office

Dear C Holdham,

Thank you for the email,

You may wish to give up (renounce) your citizenship so that you can become a citizen of another country that does not allow dual nationality. However, it is not always possible to give up your British citizenship or nationality. In order to renounce your citizenship you will need to look over all the information on the UKBA website.

www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitize...
www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/a...
www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/a...

Please note you have a right, only once, to register as a British citizen if you gave up your citizenship to keep or gain another citizenship. If you gave up your citizenship for any other reason, or have already given up and resumed British citizenship as a right, the Home Secretary may allow you to resume it, depending on the circumstances.

The onus is upon the individual to ensure that he/she satisfies the requirements set out in the guidance material that accompanies each and every application form, the Nationality Group is not able to give, indicate or advise upon the outcome of any such application prior to it being correctly submitted and being given full and careful consideration. Therefore, you are advised to read through the guide prior to submitting a future application.

The requirement to either hold another form of citizenship or nationality at the time of renunciation is part of the UK's obligations under the United Nations Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness. It ensures that an individual will not be left in a position, whereby they have no nationality and permission to reside in that country. Nationality is broadly defined as belonging to a sovereign state. This would therefore not extend to societies and cultures and also ensures that an individual renouncing their citizenship does not find themselves stateless with no country willing to accept them.

The guidance https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio... sets out what types of documents are accepted to show that an individual holds or will hold after renunciation another form of nationality or citizenship.

Regards

M Goode
Central Correspondence team
Customer Service Operations
UK Visas and Immigration
www.gov.uk/ukvi

We would like to hear about your experience and invite you to spend a few moments completing this customer satisfaction survey:
www.homeofficesurveys.homeoffice.gov.uk/...

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