Walton Hall Park.

Karl Baxter made this Freedom of Information request to Liverpool City Council

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The request was successful.

Dear Liverpool City Council,
In a recent Q&A with the Liverpool Echo, Joe Anderson claimed the council had spent no money on a report about building EFC's new stadium on Walton Hall Park http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/live....
Just over two weeks later a report was published on the Echo website concerning a study into building EFC's new stadium on Walton Hall Park which was commissioned by the council.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/live...
Can you inform me how much money this report cost and was it funded by council money or by money put forward by Everton Football Club?

Yours faithfully,
Karl Baxter

Jawahier Sharif Ali, Liverpool City Council

Information request
Our reference: 356755

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Jawahier Sharif Ali, Liverpool City Council

Dear Mr Baxter,

I refer to your request for information received on 12/12/14. In order to
locate the relevant information to your request, can you please confirm
what report you are referring to you in your request: The report made by
Everton Football Club or report made by Liverpool City Council? On other
words, are you asking about the report regarding the development of EFC or
the report in the using Walton Park Hall as a new site?

Please note that we will not be able to proceed with your request without
this additional information. If I don't hear from you by 06/01/2014 I will
assume you no longer need this information and close the case accordingly.

Waiting to hear from you

Kind Regards 

Jawahier Sharif Ali (Fatima) I Information Officer
Liverpool City Council I 6^thFloor I Cunard Building I Pier Head I Water
Street I Liverpool I L3 1DS
Online: [1]www.liverpool.gov.uk

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Dear Jawahier Sharif Ali,
Thank you for your reply. In my original request I believe I was clear in specifying which report I was referring to. I also included a link to the story on the Liverpool Echo website about the specific report.
To clarify,I would like to know how much the report into building Everton's new stadium on Walton Hall Park that Liverpool City Council commissioned and was carried out by Volterra Partners has cost.
I ask this as Joe Anderson stated in a recent Q&A session on the Liverpool Echo website that no money had been spent on a report yet I believe this report carried out by Volterra Partners has been in the making since earlier on this year despite Joe Anderson saying no money had been spent on any report and the plans only being announced in the autumn.

Yours sincerely,

Karl Baxter

Ali, Jawahier Sharif, Liverpool City Council

Dear Mr Baxter

Thank you for the clarification. Can you please confirm if you are happy for me to amend the terms of your original request and proceed with your case to reflect the following:

"I would like to know how much the report into building Everton's new stadium on Walton Hall Park that Liverpool City Council commissioned and was carried out by Volterra Partners has cost."

Waiting to hear from you

Kind Regards

Jawahier Sharif Ali (Fatima) I Information Officer
Liverpool City Council I 6th Floor I Cunard Building I Pier Head I Water Street I Liverpool I L3 1DS
Online: www.liverpool.gov.uk
Postal Address:
Municiapl Buildings, Dale Street, Liverpool, L2 2DH

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Dear Ali, Jawahier Sharif,
Thank you for your reply. That is the report I originally referred to and was referred to in the link I provided. If you would like to revise for your own needs then yes, please continue.

Yours sincerely,

Karl Baxter

Ali, Jawahier Sharif, Liverpool City Council

Dear Mr Baxter

Thank you for your email and I will now proceed with your request.

Kind Regards

Jawahier Sharif Ali (Fatima) I Information Officer
Liverpool City Council I 6th Floor I Cunard Building I Pier Head I Water Street I Liverpool I L3 1DS
T: 0151 233 0419 I E: [email address]
Online: www.liverpool.gov.uk
Postal Address:
Municiapl Buildings, Dale Street, Liverpool, L2 2DH

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Jawahier Sharif Ali, Liverpool City Council

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Dear Mr Baxter,

Please see attached our response to your FOI request.

Regards 

Jawahier Sharif Ali (Fatima) I Information Officer
Liverpool City Council I 6^thFloor I Cunard Building I Pier Head I Water
Street I Liverpool I L3 1DS
T: 0151 233 0419 I E: [1][email address]
Online: [2]www.liverpool.gov.uk

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Dear Jawahier Sharif Ali,

Can you yell me if that is with or without VAT? If it is without VAT can you tell me the actual fee paid to Volterra Partners inclusive of VAT?

Yours sincerely,

Karl Baxter

Ali, Jawahier Sharif, Liverpool City Council

Dear Mr Baxter,

Thank you for your email. I will now contacting the relevant service area for a confirmation and get back to you as soon as possible.

Kind Regards

Jawahier Sharif Ali (Fatima) I Information Officer
Liverpool City Council I 6th Floor I Cunard Building I Pier Head I Water Street I Liverpool I L3 1DS
T: 0151 233 0419 I E: [email address]
Online: www.liverpool.gov.uk
Postal Address:
Municipal Buildings, Dale Street, Liverpool, L2 2DH

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Dear Ali, Jawahier Sharif,
An answer to this is long overdue. Please vteply promptly as you are required to do by law.

Yours sincerely,

Karl Baxter

Ali, Jawahier Sharif, Liverpool City Council

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Dear Mr Baxter,

Thank you for your email. Our records indicated that a response was sent to you on 21/01/2015. To confirm, I attached a copy of our response for your records.

Kind Regards,

Jawahier Sharif Ali (Fatima) I Information Officer
Liverpool City Council I 6th Floor I Cunard Building I Pier Head I Water Street I Liverpool I L3 1DS
T: 0151 233 0419 I E: [email address]
Online: www.liverpool.gov.uk
Postal Address:
Municipal Buildings, Dale Street, Liverpool, L2 2DH

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Dear Ali, Jawahier Sharif,
And on the 23rd I requested a clarification of the information you supplied which you responded to on the 26th. Please respond with the information requested. Read the thread of this request if you require clarification.

Yours sincerely,

Karl Baxter

Ali, Jawahier Sharif, Liverpool City Council

Dear Mr Baxter,

I apologise for the confusion and the delay getting back to you. I now chased the relevant service area again for your enquiry and hope to get to back to you as soon as possible.

Again apologise for the inconvenient that may caused you.

Kind Regards,

Jawahier Sharif Ali (Fatima) I Information Officer
Liverpool City Council I 6th Floor I Cunard Building I Pier Head I Water Street I Liverpool I L3 1DS
T: 0151 233 0419 I E: [email address]
Online: www.liverpool.gov.uk
Postal Address:
Municipal Buildings, Dale Street, Liverpool, L2 2DH

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Ali, Jawahier Sharif, Liverpool City Council

Dear Mr Baxter,

After checking with the relevant team, they confirmed that we do not pay VAT as it is not applicable so the figure stated is the figure we paid.

Hope this helps.

Apologise for the delay getting back to you.

Kind Regards,

Jawahier Sharif Ali (Fatima) I Information Officer
Liverpool City Council I 6th Floor I Cunard Building I Pier Head I Water Street I Liverpool I L3 1DS
T: 0151 233 0419 I E: [email address]
Online: www.liverpool.gov.uk
Postal Address:
Municipal Buildings, Dale Street, Liverpool, L2 2DH

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Dear Ali, Jawahier Sharif,
Thank you for your prompt response it is much appreciated. If you care to look at this previous FOI request https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/2...
you will see on page 5 of that document that Volterra were in fact paid £30,000 for their services and not in fact £24,181.54 as stated in the figures you provided me with. I also I have evidence of Ann O'Byrne publicly stating that this was the only work carried out by Volterra on behalf of the council.
How do you explain this significant discrepancy in the figures provided between this previous request and those provided via my request?
I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Yours sincerely,

Karl Baxter

Ali, Jawahier Sharif, Liverpool City Council

Dear Mr Baxter,

I refer to your email below. After checking with the relevant area, we can confirm that the response to FOI question 361911 was answered in relation to exemption’s to procurement and the response was given related to value of “orders raised” not the actual payments. The actual invoices paid as requested in FOI 356755 in this instance was the sum of £24,181.54.

Kind Regards,

Jawahier Sharif Ali (Fatima) I Information Officer
Liverpool City Council I 6th Floor I Cunard Building I Pier Head I Water Street I Liverpool I L3 1DS
T: 0151 233 0419 I E: [email address]
Online: www.liverpool.gov.uk
Postal Address:
Municipal Buildings, Dale Street, Liverpool, L2 2DH

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Dear Ali, Jawahier Sharif,
Hello again. Unfortunately, I do not work in an environment where phrases such as "exemptions to procurement" are commonly used or understood and as such have no idea how it would relate to "value of orders raised". I would be grateful if you could provide an explanation using only lay man's terms not only for myself but for the benefit of other interested parties.

Yours sincerely,

Karl Baxter

Audrey O'Keefe left an annotation ()

Political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible......

Dear Ali, Jawahier Sharif,
A response is long overdue. Please respond to my last request.

Yours sincerely,

Karl Baxter

Symm, Kevin, Liverpool City Council

Dear Mr Baxter

Can you clarify what element of your request you feel our formal response of the 21 January 2015 did not address and I will be happy to assist where possible

Regards,

Kevin Symm I Senior Information Officer
Liverpool City Council I Municipal Buildings I Dale Street I Liverpool I L2 2DH
T: 0151 233 0418 I E: [email address]
Online: www.liverpool.gov.uk

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Dear Symm, Kevin,
Hello again. I will copy and paste the message as it appears in this thread above.

Dear Ali, Jawahier Sharif,
Hello again. Unfortunately, I do not work in an environment where
phrases such as "exemptions to procurement" are commonly used or
understood and as such have no idea how it would relate to "value
of orders raised". I would be grateful if you could provide an
explanation using only lay man's terms not only for myself but for
the benefit of other interested parties.

Yours sincerely,

Karl Baxter

Yours sincerely,

Karl Baxter

Symm, Kevin, Liverpool City Council

Dear Mr Baxter
 
You asked:
 

* I would like to know how much the report into building Everton's new
stadium on Walton Hall Park that Liverpool City Council commissioned
and was carried out by Volterra Partners has cost.

 
Our response was:
 

* The City Council commissioned an independent initial feasibility
report by Volterra Partners in order to establish the economic
potential of a transformational project at Walton Hall Park. Please
note that this concerns a mixed use proposal, not a stadium led scheme
as the question asks. Given that it is Council owned land, it was
prudent that the regeneration benefits of any potential scheme be
understood before any project is pursued.  The fee for this work was
£24,181.54 and this will be recouped by the Council when a project is
developed. Please note that any reports into the planning, development
and construction of a stadium would have to be produced by EFC and
none have been submitted to Liverpool City Council at this time.

 
Can you clarify how our response did not meet the terms of your request?
 
Regards,
 
Kevin Symm I Senior Information Officer
Liverpool City Council I Municipal Buildings I Dale Street I Liverpool I
L2 2DH
T: 0151 233 0418 I E: [email address]
Online: [1]www.liverpool.gov.uk
 
 

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Dear Symm, Kevin
You've obviously not read the entirety of the thread. Please familiarize yourself with it in order to avoid my copy/ pasting it in its entirety I n this reply. I provided evidence that suggested that was not the actual figure. I was given an explanation that used phrases that may be familiar to council officers and employees but not to the ordinary citizen. So in the interests of clarity and for the interests of followers of this request, can you explain the meaning of "exemptions to procurement" and how it relates to the value of "orders raised". This request is now nearly four months old and I have found a lot of replies obstructive.

Yours sincerely,

Karl Baxter

Symm, Kevin, Liverpool City Council

Dear Mr Baxter

After speaking to the relevant department they have provided the following explanation of the terminology used in our response:

Exemptions to procurement - where it is considered there is a robust reason to not facilitate a procurement process e.g. where goods or services are unique and can only be bought from one source
Value of orders raised – if there were ten orders for £100 each the total value of orders raised would be £1,000
Hence if there were ten procurement exemptions with an order value of £100 each the total value of exemptions would be £1,000

I trust this is of assistance

Regards,

Kevin Symm I Senior Information Officer
Liverpool City Council I Municipal Buildings I Dale Street I Liverpool I L2 2DH
T: 0151 233 0418 I E: [email address]
Online: www.liverpool.gov.uk

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Dear Liverpool City Council,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Liverpool City Council's handling of my FOI request 'Walton Hall Park.'.

It has taken nearly four months of messages back and forth to get a clear response to this request. I believe many of the responses I got were deliberately obstructive, pretending not to know what I was actually talking about, and asking for clarification when I believe I was clear in every response. I would like an investigation into the way this request was handled.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/w...

Yours faithfully,

Karl Baxter

Symm, Kevin, Liverpool City Council

Dear Mr Baxter

While I acknowledge and apologise for the delay in providing both our response and the clarification and explanation you requested in terms of the language used, I am unable to conduct an internal review into our response as, although outside of our statutory response deadline, we have met the terms of your request and provided the information you asked for.

I am sorry but in this instance I am unable to assist any further

Regards,

Kevin Symm I Senior Information Officer
Liverpool City Council I Municipal Buildings I Dale Street I Liverpool I L2 2DH
T: 0151 233 0418 I E: [email address]
Online: www.liverpool.gov.uk

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Dear Symm, Kevin,
It is outside of your statutory response deadline to due to time taken to make responses and the obstructive behavior of your colleagues. It is this behavior I wish to complain about.

Yours sincerely,

Karl Baxter

Symm, Kevin, Liverpool City Council

I am currently out of the office and have no access to my emails.

If your email is urgent, or you are submitting a request for information
under either the Freedom of Information Act 2000, Data Protection Act 1998
or Environmental Information Regulations 2004 please forward it to:
[email address]

 

I would advise that we will not consider it received until it is forwarded
to this address.

For any general information or advice ring 0151 233 0418 and one of my
colleagues will be happy to assist.

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Symm, Kevin, Liverpool City Council

Dear Mr Baxter

If you wish to make a complaint the most appropriate avenue for this is via the City Council's Have Your Say scheme which can be accessed by the following link:
http://liverpool.gov.uk/council/complain...

I trust this is of assistance

Regards,

Kevin Symm I Senior Information Officer
Liverpool City Council I Municipal Buildings I Dale Street I Liverpool I L2 2DH
T: 0151 233 0418 I E: [email address]
Online: www.liverpool.gov.uk

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