Vibration criteria for railway assets

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Dear Docklands Light Railway Limited,

Please can you provide a document containing the criteria for which assessment can be carried out of the impact of groundborne vibration on DLR assets?

Yours faithfully,

Robert Kimber

FOI, Docklands Light Railway Limited

 

 

 

Dear Mr Kimber

                                                                                                       

TfL Ref: 0375-21/22

 

Thank you for your request received by us on  24 May 2021 asking for
information about groundborne vibration on DLR assets.

 

Your request has been considered in accordance with the requirements of
the Freedom of Information (FOI) Act and our information access policy. 

 

Unfortunately, from the description provided, we are unable to identify
the information you require.

 

To enable us to assist with your request, please can you confirm what
source of vibration you are asking for the information about, for example
from trains, engineering works, road traffic, etc or something else.

 

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request, please do not hesitate to contact me.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Sara Thomas

FOI Case Management Team

General Counsel

Transport for London

 

 

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Dear FOI,

Thank-you for your clarification request "please can you confirm what source of vibration you are asking for the information about, for example from trains, engineering works, road traffic, etc or something else."

I am requested the document containing vibration criteria used for protection of DLR assets from sources of vibration on adjcent sites. In connection with the development of a site adjcent to a section of DLR land I have been asked to "provide an impact assessment indicating the expected vibration levels on DLR assets".

I expect that a document containing the criteria for which it is decided whether mitigation is required will contain criteria for a range of different railway assets.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Kimber

FOI, Docklands Light Railway Limited

 

 

Dear Mr Kimber

 

TfL Ref 0375-2021/22

 

Thank you for your clarification of your request received by Transport for
London (TfL) on 25 May 2021 asking for information containing vibration
criteria used for protection of DLR assets from sources of vibration on
adjacent sites.

 

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do not hesitate to contact me.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Sara Thomas

FOI Case Management Team

General Counsel

Transport for London

 

 

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Dear FOI,

Thank-you for asking if the request is essential. Without the criteria for vibration sensitivity of DLR assets an assessment cannot be undertaken. Without the assessment the adjacent housing scheme cannot be progressed.

I appreciate the need to check if it is essential and strongly encourage DLR to make sure that comments on planning applications for adjcent sites make requests of assessments that are essential only.

In short, yes it is essential, please progress the request.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Kimber

FOI, Docklands Light Railway Limited

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Dear Mr Kimber

 

TfL Ref 0375-2021/22

 

Thank you for your clarification of your request received by Transport for
London (TfL) on 25 May 2021 asking for information containing vibration
criteria used for protection of DLR assets from sources of vibration on
adjacent sites.

 

Your request has been considered in accordance with the requirements of
the Freedom of Information Act and our information access policy.

 

Unfortunately we do not hold the information you have requested as we do
not have a document that sets out the vibration limits on DLR
infrastructure.

 

As the DLR is an automated service, there is a range of equipment attached
to our structures required to run the DLR trains.  As such, DLR
infrastructure is more sensitive to ground based vibrations than other
railway operations. Due to the variety of DLR infrastructure and equipment
arrangements and ground conditions along the DLR network, our engineers
assess the impact of proposed works on a site by site basis to determine
what further assessment or mitigation measures may be required; this is
dependent on the DLR assets, structures and equipment in the area that may
be affected.

 

We are not clear on which site adjacent to a section of the DLR you are
referring to but please contact our Outside Parties team at
[1][email address] and include which site you are working for,
so we can provide more advice via the engineer allocated to the job.

 

 

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Yours sincerely

 

 

Sara Thomas

FOI Case Management Team

General Counsel

Transport for London

 

 

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Dear FOI,

To further clarify the request:

Please provide the vibration criteria for assessment for the impact on DLR assets from vibration due to construction activities on adjacent sites.

Which site or which section of DLR track or embankment is irrelevant. Please provide the requested information and think carefully before refusing to provide the information.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Kimber

FOI, Docklands Light Railway Limited

 

 

Dear Mr Kimber

 

TfL Ref 0516-2122

 

Thank you for your request received by Transport for London (TfL) on 11
June 2021 asking for the vibration criteria for assessment for the impact
on DLR assets from vibration due to construction activities on adjacent
sites.

 

Your request will be processed in accordance with the requirements of the
Freedom of Information Act and our information access policy. 

 

A response will be sent to you by 8 July 2021. We publish a substantial
range of information on our website on subjects including operational
performance, contracts, expenditure, journey data, governance and our
financial performance. This includes data which is frequently asked for in
FOI requests or other public queries. Please check
[1]http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transpar... to see if this helps you.

 

We will publish anonymised versions of requests and responses on the
www.tfl.gov.uk website. We will not publish your name and we will send a
copy of the response to you before it is published on our website.

 

In the meantime, if you would like to discuss this matter further, please
do not hesitate to contact me.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Sara Thomas

FOI Case Management Team

General Counsel

Transport for London

 

 

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FOI, Docklands Light Railway Limited

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Dear Mr Kimber

 

TfL Ref 0516-2122

 

Thank you for your request received by Transport for London (TfL) on 11
June 2021 asking for the vibration criteria for assessment for the impact
on DLR assets from vibration due to construction activities on adjacent
sites.

 

Your request has been considered in accordance with the requirements of
the Freedom of Information Act and our information access policy. You
asked: Please provide the vibration criteria for assessment for the impact
on DLR assets from vibration due to construction activities on adjacent
sites.

 

Unfortunately we do not hold the information you have requested. We
reiterate, due to the nature of DLR assets and control systems and the
variety of ground conditions and assets along the DLR network, the DLR do
not apply a generic thresholds for vibration, nor do DLR use tables for
each asset indicating maximum vibrations that each asset can accommodate.

 

Please note that the condition of DLR assets adjacent to any development
would also be a key factor when considering impact of vibrations from
adjacent construction. The location of a proposed development and method
of working is essential to know when considering the risks it presents to
existing DLR assets and operations.

 

As per our previous response, please contact our Outside Parties team at
[1][email address] and include which particular site is of your
interest, so we can allocate an engineer to provide more advice specific
to your works proposals.

 

The process our Outside Parties Engineers follow is described below, to
give you a better understanding of how we manage external risks to our DLR
assets and operations:

 

 1. When contacted about a proposed development that may impact DLR assets
or operations, we will ask the developer to complete a Developers
Questionnaire. This document allows the developer to outline their
proposal along with the location and type of construction works
anticipated, so that we can review the DLR assets in the location and
advise on potential impact and anticipated mitigation measures
required

 

 2. Where there will be an impact or risk to DLR assets or operations, we
support the developer and our time is recoverable. We would ask the
developer to complete an ROCD form and a New Customer Form to record
this commitment. These documents set out the agreement to cover DLR
engineer time and KAD (the DLR Operator/maintainer) support costs.
NOTE: where developer proposals involve altering or creating new DLR
assets, the Developer will be required to enter into a Development
Agreement.

 

 3. For all new jobs we undertake a works review and risk assessment to
determine what additional measures and agreements may be required,
e.g. impact assessments, asset protection agreements, licences, etc.
Until we have visibility of Developer proposals, we cannot comment on
the potential impact and mitigation measures that are required.

 

 

I attach two documents to provide general guidance for developments that
could impact DLR assets and operations:

 

 1. Guidance to Third Party Developers – this is general guidance on the
considerations when designing and planning works adjacent/over/under
DLR property and assets. NOTE – this document is being updated,
however I have attached the current version in use. You may notice
that it refers to DLR Engineering Standard ES-101 Noise and Vibration
Policy. This policy relates to the vibrations caused by DLR
operations, not vibrations that the DLR assets can accommodate from
external works.
 2. Advice on the Protection Process – this provides general guidance to
the Developer on the process of our reviews and outline timescales for
access and responses.

 

 

 

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Yours sincerely

 

 

Sara Thomas

FOI Case Management Team

General Counsel

Transport for London

 

 

 

 

 

From: FOI
Sent: 21 June 2021 11:44
To: 'Robert Kimber' <[2][FOI #758139 email]>
Subject: new ref 0516-2122 CRM:0138130

 

 

 

Dear Mr Kimber

 

TfL Ref 0516-2122

 

Thank you for your request received by Transport for London (TfL) on 11
June 2021 asking for the vibration criteria for assessment for the impact
on DLR assets from vibration due to construction activities on adjacent
sites.

 

Your request will be processed in accordance with the requirements of the
Freedom of Information Act and our information access policy.

 

A response will be sent to you by 8 July 2021. We publish a substantial
range of information on our website on subjects including operational
performance, contracts, expenditure, journey data, governance and our
financial performance. This includes data which is frequently asked for in
FOI requests or other public queries. Please check
[3]http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transpar... to see if this helps you.

 

We will publish anonymised versions of requests and responses on the
[4]www.tfl.gov.uk website. We will not publish your name and we will send
a copy of the response to you before it is published on our website.

 

In the meantime, if you would like to discuss this matter further, please
do not hesitate to contact me.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Sara Thomas

FOI Case Management Team

General Counsel

Transport for London

 

 

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