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Vaccine Interaction Research and Cardiff Uni Study

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Dear Ministry of Defence,

In reference to the Gulf War 1990/91

Veterans would like to view ALL the details within the VACCINE INTERACTION STUDY (Which vaccines, what the vaccines contained, which batches etc)

Also ALL the data from the phase 1 Study carried out at Cardiff University and the part of Phase 2 Study when for unknown reason to veterans the Study was called to a halt?

Has MOD destroyed this data or does it still exist? If MOD have not already destroyed this data are they willingly allowing veterans to view this data in an honest and transparent manner as MOD claim when speaking publicly? Or in contrast- Do veterans require to collect a Court Order before MOD will release the data?

Thankyou in advance for any honesty and transparency anyone is able to muster!


gavin roberts

People-Sec-FOI Mailbox (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

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Dear Mr Roberts,

Please find attached response to your correspondence.


Defence People Secretariat





Dear People-Sec-FOI Mailbox (MULTIUSER),

Thankyou for your reply, I am responding to you in the first instance as requested. I will Clarify my request

WHICH Anthrax was used in these tests?( data showing details of manufacture/supply) , which pertusis was used in these tests ( Where from, purchase receipts etc?) Does this data exist at all or have MOD true to form lost that data?

Obviously the devil is in the detail, providing this data will ensure veterans that the study was not corrupted that led to an outcome that again suited past MOD. This is what veterans believe and so of course a transparent and honest working current MOD would wish to relieve these concerns with Data.

Unfortunately it seems the data was on going missing years after MOD carried out it's own study on itself (Lessons Learned). Unfortunately the lessons learned - Stop losing the data did not materialize in practise.

Please clarify, is what you are trying to say is. There was a study carried out between (the alleged exact same) vaccines, but you do not have the details/ data for this study? Apart from a brief description? Are the details there or not? Or is this just more details that have been lost?

We have contacted the independent people named in this study. For some reason. They do not reply. All very strange.

Maybe it would help if we inform you we have carried out our own studies and the only exposure it can be is the vaccines, that have caused the epidemic levels of autoimmune sickness in these veterans. So the only path now to eliminate the vaccines, we would need to see the DETAILS of that study. We have also carried out a survey that came back with 1in3 Gulf veterans suffering autoimmune conditions. MOD have not carried out this simple survey in the past. Veterans would say because the conclusion is not the conclusion past MOD would desire.

Is the current MOD admin working in an honest, transparent and competent manner (in contrast to past MOD 1991-2010)
If so, with all the information we have given to you, you should be getting to the bottom of this, rather than us Veterans that should be enjoying their retirement having done our time defending Queen & Country, having to turn into investigators and lawyers unravelling the truth. Shame on those responsible.

I look forward to some detailed data for the first time in 2 years of requesting information through foi


gavin roberts

Dear People-Sec-FOI Mailbox (MULTIUSER),

It may also help that the Anthrax vaccine specifically developed for the Gulf War using the U.S formula shelf life would only be 3 or 4 years.

So it is impossible for a vaccine interaction study to be carried out 15 years later (2005/2006) with the same anthrax developed without the details surrounding the development of that vaccine! Can you see where we are coming from?

When past MOD have dug holes. They ONLY get deeper.
Current MOD happy to carry their corrupt can? It is not them that will be stood in the dock if we do not get straight answers. Maybe worth thinking about!


gavin roberts

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