UK police in conflict of interests.......!

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Dear Home Office,

It has come to my concern that UK police are employing a convicted paedophile >>> http://metro.co.uk/2014/12/22/paedophile...

1) How can the police allow a convicted paedophile work for them? this a conflict of interests.

2) What is a minor/serious conviction? given that the police employ a convicted paedophile.

3) How can the police get involved with criminal records on applicants Disclosure and Barring Services (CRB) certificates?

4) How are the police allowed to be judge and jury on Disclosure and Barring Service (CRB) information?

5) Is the UK a Common Law country?

Yours faithfully,

peter danby & associates

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Dear FOI Requests,

The response to your request is long overdue. By law, and under all circumstances, you should have responded by now, as this is the case, a reply is required under due process of law.....

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Dear Mr Danby,

Thank you for your enquiry about an outstanding response to your email of 13 June. We wrote to you on 11 July, in response to your emails of 6 and 13 June. A copy of our letter is attached.

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Crime, Policing and Fire Group

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Dear FOI Responses,

People with minor convictions and/or cautions are not automatically precluded from entry to the police service, although certain offences and conditions will make you ineligible, so check with your local force. Details of spent convictions, as defined by the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974, must be disclosed.

Why are applicants who want to be police constables, with criminal records treated differently to people who work in the public sector with minor convictions wanting to work with vulnerable people ?

Lots of police constables have committed crimes while on duty, but they remain in the police constabulary >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...

Why are police constables who come into contact with the public and have serious criminal records allowed to continue being police constables ? These constables would not be allowed to work in social care and yet police constables come into contact with vulnerable people. This is a conflict of interests, who is responsible ?

In some cases continuing to employ officers appears to directly contradict Government guidelines which insist on ‘proven integrity’. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...

So who would the UK police not employ? i don't want an opinion either". You must know who you would not employ, as do employers who scrutinize applicants to work with vulnerable people !

Yours sincerely,

peter danby and associates

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Dear Public Enquiries (CD),

Their is no transparency with who you employ and judging by past events publicised by the media, me and my associates have no faith in UK police, just like lots of the public who are outraged that UK police are corporations.....

This information was taken from a pre-employment police page >>>
Applicants must be rejected if they have been convicted or cautioned for an offence such as:
� any offence committed as an adult or juvenile, which resulted in a prison sentence (including custodial, suspended or deferred sentence and sentences served at a young offenders� institute or community home)
�treason
�murder
�manslaughter/culpable homicide
�rape
�offences under the Sexual Offences Act 2003 punishable by life or more than ten years imprisonment
�kidnapping/abduction
�incest
�sexual activity with a child
�hostage taking, hi-jacking or torture
�involvement in espionage, terrorism, sabotage or any actions to overthrow/undermine parliamentary democracy by political, industrial or violent means or association (past or present) with any organisation advocating such activities
�death by dangerous driving
�firearms offences
�offences with a hate aggravation (race, religion or belief, sexual orientation, transgender or disability
�domestic violence offences
Violence
offences involving serious violence or injury including Grievous Bodily Harm (GBH) and Actual Bodily Harm (ABH)
offences involving unsolicited violence towards others
unlawful possession of weapons, firearms or going equipped to steal
gross Indecency
acts of indecency
abuse or neglect of children
public order offences
involvement in riot, violent disorder, affray, causing fear or provocation of violence, causing intentional harassment, alarm or distress
Dishonesty
interference with the Administration of Justice or the investigation of offences
burglary
offences that involve elements or acts of dishonesty, corruption, substantial financial gain or serious loss to anyone including theft, fraud and deception
Drugs/driving offences
Serious involvement in drugs including possession of a class A drug (e.g. heroin, morphine) or more than one class B drug (e.g. amphetamines) and/or supplying drugs of any kind
reckless or dangerous driving within the last ten years
One offence of drink driving or drunk in charge or driving under the influence of drugs within the preceding ten years
more than one offence of drink driving or drunk in charge or driving under the influence of drugs
other serious motoring offences such as conviction within the last five years of driving without insurance, otherwise than in accordance with the conditions of a driving licence, failing to stop after an accident or driving whilst disqualified
more than three endorsable traffic convictions (including fixed penalty notices, excluding parking) within the last five years (for offences on different dates)
two or more convictions for regulatory offences such as failure to renew vehicle excise licence or test certificate within the last five years.

How many police constables are still employed knowing they have serious criminal records ? but of course this is something you cant get involved because as you say this remains an operational decision for the force (police corporation).

Their is enough law to stop people with serious criminal records being employed by police constabularies, and it's called common law/common sense.

When the public are aware that UK police constabularies are employing people with serious crimes" what are you prepared to do? or is out of your remit ?

How more innocent people are going to be victims of police harassment or brutality or even loose their lives because the UK police constabularies are not taking any notice of employment contracts ?

Ps i used to know a person who could not be a pub landlord because of their criminal record, so the person joined the police, says it all really......

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Dear Public Enquiries (CD),

So at present police constabularies/forces are employing people with serious criminal records ( Child rapist PCSO Peter Bunyan never had Criminal Records Bureau www.westbriton.co.uk/child-rapist-pcso-p... cecks 6 days ago - Devon and Cornwall Police have confirmed that the force never ran a Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) check on former PCSO Peter Bunyan ) So the system for upcoming checks will all be in-house and nothing will change my opinion of the fact that in-house checks do not work ! You might like to look at this link >>> http://info.fmotl.com/PoliceListV30.pdf

Confidence in policing is at a all time low, Statutes/Acts are compounding Common Law and policing in the UK is compounded back the lack of funding, but theirs always money for improvement in recruitment checks, but always in-house, says it all really".

Furthermore you have not answered my FOI request".

It has come to my concern that UK police are employing a convicted paedophile >>> http://metro.co.uk/2014/12/22/paedophile...

1) How can the police allow a convicted paedophile work for them? this a conflict of interests.

2) What is a minor/serious conviction? given that the police employ a convicted paedophiles.

3) How can the police get involved with criminal records on applicants Disclosure and Barring Services (CRB) certificates when the UK police are employing people with serious criminal records ?

4) How are the police allowed to be judge and jury on Disclosure and Barring Service (CRB) information when the UK police are employing people with serious criminal records ?

5) Is the UK a Common Law country?

regards

peter danby and associates

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Dear Public Enquiries (CD),

Who is responsible for checking that police constabularies/forces are working within the law ?

Has the Home Office got powers to intervene in what UK police constabularies/forces do ?

Does the Home Office intervene in policing issues ?

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William Old left an annotation ()

For anyone following this thread: Police officers are NOT employees and have no contract of employment. They are Crown (not public) servants, which is why being "warranted" (having a warrant of being a Crown servant) is legally quite different from being an employee.

A "CHIS" (covert human intelligence source) - popularly known as an "informant" - is not employed either, but can be paid sums of money as a reward for information provided, these payments being made in compliance with a strict procedural framework in order to protect the CHIS, the police "handler", and the public interest.