daniela drysdale

Dear Sir or Madam,

In a letter addressed to Mr Julian Brazier TF MP, dated 8 April 2008, Mr Jim Fitzpatrick, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Transport, stated, "I am advised that there is no reason to reopen the [Gaul] investigation."

I would be grateful if Mr Fitzpatrick could let us know whom he had been advised by and in what manner that advice had been conveyed, and kindly give us a complete account of that advice.

Many thanks

Yours faithfully,

Daniela Drysdale

(http://the-trawler-gaul.blogspot.com/)

daniela drysdale left an annotation ()

Dear Sir or Madam,

Could you please respond to my request for information of 22 October 2008?

Many thanks and kind regards,

Daniela Drysdale

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Blog post about this request:

http://the-trawler-gaul.blogspot.com/200...

daniela drysdale

Dear Sir or Madam,

In my FOI request of 22 October 2008 I asked you a very simple question. You have, however, failed to provide me with the information requested within the period prescribed by law.

I am therefore obliged to request an internal review.

Yours sincerely,

Daniela Drysdale

Adam Paine, Department for Transport

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Ms Drysdale,

Please find attached letter, prepared in response to your e-mail of 6^th
December 2008.

Regards,

Adam Paine.

020 7944 2637

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daniela drysdale

Dear Adam Paine,

In your acknowledgement of 8 December 2008 above, you erroneously state that my FOI request of 22 October 2008 concerns the release of information regarding the content of the correspondence between Jim Fitzpatrick, MP and Julian Brazier, MP.

I would therefore like to make it clear for you that what I asked for in fact were simply details on the source of the advice received by Mr Fitzpatrick, the manner in which the advice had been conveyed, and a complete account of that advice.

For further clarifications, please kindly read again my original request.

Yours sincerely,

Daniela Drysdale

Adam Paine, Department for Transport

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Ms Drysdale,

Further correspondence attached.

Regards,
Adam Paine.

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Adam Paine, Department for Transport

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Ms Drysdale,

Please find attached correspondence.

Regards,
Adam Paine.

Great Minster House
76 Marsham Street
London
SW1P 4DR

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Dear Adam Paine,

Once again the DfT are circumventing my questions. I shall therefore reiterate the content of my original FOI request:

"Dear Sir or Madam,

In a letter addressed to Mr Julian Brazier TF MP, dated 8 April 2008, Mr Jim Fitzpatrick, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Transport, stated, "I am advised that there is no reason to reopen the [Gaul] investigation."

I would be grateful if Mr Fitzpatrick could let us know whom he had been advised by and in what manner that advice had been conveyed, and kindly give us a complete account of that advice.

Many thanks

Yours faithfully,

Daniela Drysdale

(http://the-trawler-gaul.blogspot.com/)&q...

Should you not answer this request forthwith, I will have no choice but to take the matter before the Information Commissioner.

Yours sincerely,

Daniela Drysdale

Adam Paine, Department for Transport

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Ms Drysdale,

Please see attached correspondence.

Regards,
Adam Paine

020 7944 2637

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Dear Adam Paine,

To help you solve this matter more efficiently, I will clarify a few things for you:

My request for an internal review was in fact dated 6 December 2008, not 17 December 2008.
You therefore only need to complete one review, and that should be ready by 8 January 2009 (as you yourself estimate).

Your response dated 17 December 2008 does not answer or even relate to my initial request for information above.
My message of yesterday was simply meant to draw your attention to this fact.

Yours sincerely,

Daniela Drysdale

Adam Paine, Department for Transport

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Ms Drysdale,

Please find attached a complete version of the document that should have been sent to you 17 December. A technical error meant that the third page of the letter, which contains the response to your 22 October FOI request, was not scanned with the rest of the document.

I apologise sincerely for this oversight and any confusion that it caused.

Regards,
Adam Paine.

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Adam Paine, Department for Transport

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Ms Drysdale,

I attach a letter clarifying the Department's understanding of the situation regarding this FOI.

Regards,
Adam Paine.

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Dear Adam Paine,

Further to your reply of 19/12/08(including the revised letter from Ms Theresa Crossley) and subsequent message of 19 December 2008, I would like to explain to you that a request for an internal review usually means that the person seeking information is dissatisfied with the handling of his/her request by the public authority in question.
With reference to my FOI request of 22 October, at the moment, and for the reasons explained below, I still cannot say that I am satisfied with your handling of my application.

With reference to your response (the complete version of Ms Crossley’s letter) of 19 December 2008, forgive me if I am wrong, but, to my mind, there is only one possible interpretation as to the meaning of Mr Fitzpatrick’s statement, contained in his letter to Mr Julian Brazier MP, dated 08 April 2008: i.e. "I am advised that there is no reason to reopen the [Gaul] investigation", be it within or without a particular context.

TO BE ADVISED followed by THAT… is to be informed
(by somebody other than yourself) of something. This
implies the existence of two parties: the advisor
and the advised.

I assume that Mr Fitzpatrick’s choice of words was consciously employed so as to render this meaning. Please let me know if I am wrong.

In your reply you state that: "No further analysis or advice was given to Jim Fitzpatrick MP than appears in the letter" [i.e. in Mr Fitzpatrick’s letter to Julian Brazier MP].
Regretfully, I have to admit that I found the above statement rather puzzling, and, so far, I have been unable to understand its meaning.

In my opinion, FURTHER means: additional, supplementary, or subsequent. Hence, your assertion could mean that the Minister for Transport received no advice AFTER his letter to Mr Julian Brazier MP was written. Is that what you meant? Could you, please, clarify?

If, however, what you really meant was that no analysis or advice had been given to Jim Fitzpatrick MP at any time BEFORE the letter to Mr Julian Brazier MP was written, I would be grateful if you could confirm it in a plain and unambiguous manner.

Many thanks and Season’s Greetings,

Yours sincerely,

Daniela Drysdale

daniela drysdale

Dear Adam Paine,

Thank you for your letter of 17 December 2008.

Please see our reply at:

http://danieladrysdale.fileave.com/Lette...

Yours sincerely,

Daniela Drysdale

Adam Paine, Department for Transport

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Ms Drysdale,

Further to the below e-mail, I attach correspondence regarding the
Department's internal review into the timeliness of its response to your
Freedom of Information request (our reference FA0004629).

Regards,

Adam Paine.

020 7944 2637

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daniela drysdale

Dear Mr Paine,

Regarding my initial FOI request (see above), dated 22 October 2008.

On 6 Dec 2008, as a result of your unexplained delay in responding to my enquiry, I requested an internal review.

On 19 December 2008, I received from you an unclear and incomplete answer to my request, combined with a more general statement by the Secretary of State for Transport.

In my message of 21 December 2008, I advised you that your answer to my FOI request was too lacking and ambiguous, and asked you for clarifications.

On 8 January 2009, you informed me about the results of your internal review, which focused only on the timeliness of your dealing with my initial FOI request.

Now, I am obliged to request another internal review, this time into the substance of your response, unless you can clarify, beforehand, the following:

- Who advised Mr Jim Fitzpatrick on the subject of the Gaul RFI and the merits of our criticism thereof

- In what manner had that advice been conveyed

- What was the full content of that advice

Looking forward to your prompt and satisfactory response,

Yours sincerely,

Daniela Drysdale

Adam Paine, Department for Transport

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Ms Drysdale,

Please see attached.

Regards,
Adam Paine.

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Adam Paine, Department for Transport

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Ms Drysdale,

Please see the attached, which refers to your request for an internal
review into your Freedom of Information request the language contained in
a letter between Jim Fitzpatrick MP and Julian Brazier MP.

Regards,

Adam Paine.

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Jim Spooner, Department for Transport

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Ms Drysdale,

Please see the attached which refers to your request for an internal
review into your Freedom of Information request concerning a letter
between Jim Fitzpatrick MP and Julian Brazier MP.

Jim Spooner

Shipping Policy 4

Great Minster House

76 Marsham Street

London SW1P 4DR

Tel: 0207 944 5417

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