transferred from Home office on 20 Feb

I am the agent for the fictional strawman that was created with the name Sarah Goldsmith made this Freedom of Information request to Ministry of Justice This request has been closed to new correspondence. Contact us if you think it should be reopened.

The request was refused by Ministry of Justice.

I am the agent for the fictional strawman that was created with the name Sarah Goldsmith

Dear Ministry of Justice,

This relates to a FOI request that the Home Office transferred to you on 20 Feb 2014, Reference : T1992/14

It refers to a FOI answer the Home Office published on its website https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio... which they say they can not answer, and have referred it to yourselves.

It is regarding policing by consent and in section 7 it states "To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence."

Citizens are NOT required to enFORCE Statutes upon one another, and the "police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties..." ARE required to do so. Therefore, the legal validity of the statement in the last paragraph of the above publication, where it states "No individual can chose to withdraw his or her consent from the police, or from a law" demonstrates that to enFORCE any STATUTE upon any citizen without his or her INDIVIDUAL CONSENT is void, ab initio. It appears contrary to the Rule of Law, in accordance with the Home Office's own definition!

So, in accordance with the FOI Act, please provide me with your recorded information regarding what PRECISELY are the "duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence" with regard to enFORCing Statutes upon each other in the same way the police enFORCE Statutes upon citizens?

Thank you kindly,

Yours faithfully,

Sarah Goldsmith

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I am the agent for the fictional strawman that was created with the name Sarah Goldsmith

Dear Ministry of Justice,

Please respond as you are legally obliged to do.

Thank you,

Yours faithfully,

Sarah Goldsmith

Data Access & Compliance Unit, Ministry of Justice

Dear Ms Sarah Goldsmith,

Thank you for your email in relation to your request:

"Dear Ministry of Justice,

This relates to a FOI request that the Home Office transferred to
you on 20 Feb 2014, Reference : T1992/14

It refers to a FOI answer the Home Office published on its website
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio...
which they say they can not answer, and have referred it to
yourselves.

It is regarding policing by consent and in section 7 it states "To
maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives
reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public
and that the public are the police, the police being only members
of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties
which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community
welfare and existence."

Citizens are NOT required to enFORCE Statutes upon one another, and
the "police being only members of the public who are paid to give
full time attention to duties..." ARE required to do so. Therefore,
the legal validity of the statement in the last paragraph of the
above publication, where it states "No individual can chose to
withdraw his or her consent from the police, or from a law"
demonstrates that to enFORCE any STATUTE upon any citizen without
his or her INDIVIDUAL CONSENT is void, ab initio. It appears
contrary to the Rule of Law, in accordance with the Home Office's
own definition!

So, in accordance with the FOI Act, please provide me with your
recorded information regarding what PRECISELY are the "duties which
are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community
welfare and existence" with regard to enFORCing Statutes upon each
other in the same way the police enFORCE Statutes upon citizens?

Thank you kindly,

Yours faithfully,

Sarah Goldsmith"

As states in the Home Office transfer response, this request is being dealt with by the Ministerial Correspondence Unit as official correspondence:

"Ms Sarah Goldsmith,

Reference : T1992/14

Date: 20-Feb-2014

TREAT OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE

Thank you for your e-mail of 13/02/2014 3:57:00 PM.

The matters you have raised are the responsibility of Ministry of Justice.

We have therefore transferred your e-mail to MoJ who will arrange for a
reply to be sent to you.

Transfer Desk"

If you would like any further information on this request please contact the Ministerial Correspondence Unit at:
Ministerial Correspondence Unit, Ministry of Justice, 102 Petty France, London, SW1H 9AJ, United Kingdom DX 152380 Westminster 8

Telephone: +44 (0)20 3334 3555

Fax: +44 (0)870 761 7753

E-Mail [email address]

Kind Regards,

Data Access and Compliance Unit.

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I am the agent for the fictional strawman that was created with the name Sarah Goldsmith

Dear Data Access & Compliance Unit,

Thank you kindly. My mistake, many apologies.

Yours sincerely,

Sarah Goldsmith

Ministry of Justice

1 Attachment

Reference : T3248/14

Thank you for your e-mail enquiry of 11/03/2014 1:16:44 PM

A reply is attached.

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I am the agent for the fictional strawman that was created with the name Sarah Goldsmith

Dear Ministry of Justice,

Thank you for your kind response. However, it does not appear to address the original request in any way, which was for "your recorded information regarding what PRECISELY are the "duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence" with regard to enFORCing Statutes upon each other in the same way the police enFORCE Statutes upon citizens".

Please would you provide that information?

Thank you.

Yours faithfully,

Sarah Goldsmith

Ministry of Justice

1 Attachment

Reference : T4320/14

Thank you for your e-mail enquiry of 01/04/2014 4:09:16 PM

A reply is attached.

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