The fire risk of retrofit materials

Cheryl Ladding made this Freedom of Information request to Humberside Fire and Rescue Service

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Dear Humberside Fire and Rescue Service,

Is it legal to put class 3, high fire risk products on maisonettes where there is only one means of escape?

Is it legal to put class 3, high fire risk products on maisonettes above the 3rd floor with 2 means of escape?

Is it legal to put a class 3, high fire risk product in front of the means of escape, i.e where you would have to pass the product to escape through a designated escape route?

Has there been an increase in fires or the severity of them because of retrofit materials?

If a building has 2 class 3 products with phenolic between making a wall, with no masonry, would the service flag this as a high risk building?

Would you class a building with class 3 materials above the third floor as an increased fire risk?

Yours faithfully,

Cheryl Ladding

Elaine Lennox, Humberside Fire and Rescue Service

Thank you for your email dated 18th January 2013.

I wanted to let you know that I am dealing with this as a request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. I will deal with this as quickly as possible and certainly within the 20 working days set out in the Act. You will hear back from me by 18th February 2013 at the latest.

 

Elaine Lennox
Administration and Member Support Supervisor
Administration Support Team
T:  01482 567462
E:  [email address]
W: http://www.humbersidefire.gov.uk

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Alan Maltby, Humberside Fire and Rescue Service

 

 

Thank you for your email.

 

The Freedom of Information Act 2000 ("the Act") provides a presumed right
of access to recorded information held by public authorities that is not
available through other means.  For an application to be valid it must
describe the recorded information the applicant thinks is held by the
public authority.  I take recorded information to include reports,
minutes, research, etc.  I would also add that there is no obligation on a
public authority to answer questions posed by applicants if this means
creating new information or giving an opinion or judgement that is not
already recorded.

 

In dealing with an application under the Act a public authority has to
confirm whether it holds the information requested and then release that
information, subject to certain exemptions.  In this case, we do not hold
the information set out in your request.

 

Humberside Fire and Rescue Service enforces general fire safety
legislation in Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, North Lincolnshire and
North East Lincolnshire.  The legislation we enforce includes [1]The
Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005 but this does not provide a
definitive response to the circumstances set out in your request.  The
following links might also be useful to you:

 

[2]Approved Document B - Fire safety: Volume 1 – Dwelling houses

[3]Fire Safety Risk Assessment Sleeping Accommodation

 

If you are concerned about fire safety, please contact your local Fire
Rescue Service for further advice.  If Humberside Fire and Rescue Service
is your local service, please contact me direct (details below) and I'll
put you in touch with colleagues who will be able to advise.

 

I trust this concludes your request.  If you are unhappy with the way in
which your application has been handled, you can request an internal
review.  Such requests should be made to me within 2 months of the date of
this email.  If you remain dissatisfied, you have the right to complain to
the Information Commissioner.

 

Alan Maltby

IT & IS Manager

IT Section

Humberside Fire and Rescue Service

T:01482 565333 Ext: 7408

E:[email address]

W:http://www.humbersidefire.gov.uk

 

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Dear Alan Maltby,

I am very surprised by your answer. Am I correct in assuming you have no buildings over 3 stories high which have had retrofits?

Have you any retrofit buildings?

I appreciate you cannot answer anything that you have not experienced but surely this is an area of concern when 'retrofitting and insulation' are to be expanded upon i.e. Green Deal, Eco houses, zero carbon houses?

Are there no standard fire guidelines with regard to new insulating materials.

Yours sincerely,

Cheryl Ladding

Alan Maltby, Humberside Fire and Rescue Service

Thank you for your email. I am linking this to your earlier application, rather than treating it as a new request.

As I said in my previous response, the Freedom of Information Act 2000 does not cover instances where new information has to be created to answer questions raised by applicants, or providing views or judgements which are not already recorded. We do not hold the information set out in your request.

My suggestion is for you to speak to your local building control section in the first instance as they are the lead authority for enforcing legislation relating to the material alteration of buildings. For the types of premises covered by your request, the Fire and Rescue Service only covers common areas and we have no enforcement powers inside private properties.

Alan

Alan Maltby
IT & IS Manager
IT Section
Humberside Fire and Rescue Service
T:01482 565333 Ext: 7408
E:[email address]
W:http://www.humbersidefire.gov.uk

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