Swindon Baptist Tabernacle

The request was partially successful.

Magnus Ponsonby-Talbot

Dear Swindon Borough Council,

SBC purchased the stone frontage of the former Baptist Tabernacle, shamefully demolished in 1978, in September 2007 at a cost to the public purse of £349,000 (as set out in your response to FOI101000238245).

Please provide me with the most recent plans the council possess for reassembling these stones and incorporating them in some other development. I am aware there have been a number of false starts over the years.

Please also provide details of exactly how much of the portico was retained, was it simply the columns or was it the pediment too?

Yours faithfully,

Magnus Ponsonby-Talbot

Customer Services, Swindon Borough Council

Thank you for your email which has been forwarded to the FOI office. for response.

Kind regards

Customer Services
Swindon Borough Council
Wat Tyler House
Swindon SN1 2JG
Phone: 01793 445500

E-mail: [Swindon Borough Council request email]
Website: www.swindon.gov.uk

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Swindon Borough Council

[1]Swindon Borough Council
Dear Magnus Ponsonby-Talbot,

Case reference number: FOI002497

Thank you for your request. The Freedom of Information Act creates two
general rights in relation to information:

 1. The right to be told whether or not the information requested is
held
 2. The right to be given that information within 20 working days

A response to your request for information will be sent to you promptly;
and in any event no later than 10/01/2020. Please allow postal time.

If you have a My Account you can follow the progress of your request by
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My Account, so you can view your case.

Kind regards, 

Freedom of information officer
Swindon Borough Council

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Sharon Druett, Swindon Borough Council

 

Dear Magnus Ponsonby-Talbot,

 

Ref: FOI002497  Freedom of Information request - Swindon Baptist
Tabernacle

 

I acknowledge the receipt of your email below that was received on 6^th
December, 2019.

The Council has a duty to respond ‘promptly’, or no later than 20 working
days which in this case is 10^th January, 2020.

 

Please find the response to the following questions:

 

Please provide me with the most recent plans the council possess for
reassembling these stones and incorporating them in some other
development. I am aware there have been a number of false starts over the
years.

Response: There are currently no plans, so we do not hold any information
in response to your request.

 

Please also provide details of exactly how much of the portico was
retained, was it simply the columns or was it the pediment too? 

Response: The Portico stones include the principal elements of the
Pediment.

 

If you are unhappy with the service you have received in relation to your
request and wish to make a review you should contact:

 

Customer Services

Civic Offices

Euclid Street

Swindon

[1][email address]

 

The complaints/review procedure involves a full review by the Information
Governance Manager  [2][email address]

 

If you are not content with the outcome of our conclusion, you may apply
directly to the Information Commissioner's Office for a decision before
contacting the Council. Generally, the ICO cannot make a decision unless
you have exhausted the Council's own complaints procedure.

 

The Information Officer can be contacted at:

The Information Commissioner's Office,

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

Cheshire

SK9 5AF

If you require any further information concerning this matter please
contact me quoting the reference number at the top of the letter/ email /
message.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Sharon Druett

Freedom of Information Officer (Information  Governance)

Information & Technology

Swindon Borough Council

[3][email address]

Tel: 07989 386 988

Web: [4]www.swindon.gov.uk

 

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Magnus Ponsonby-Talbot

Dear Swindon Borough Council,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Swindon Borough Council's handling of my FOI request 'Swindon Baptist Tabernacle'.

I believe SBC have been disingenuous in their handling of this request.

As far back as 2009 the idea of incorporating these stones into another building has been mooted, and has been widely reported in the press that the Council were actively pursuing options. One such option was with a company called Modus, which went into administration so sadly the venture went nowhere.

Even if there are no current plans (which was not my question), this then might be the most recent, potentially, and I would be very surprised if a copy of those plans didn't rest somewhere in the Council.

I would ask you therefore to revisit my request.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/s...

Yours faithfully,

Magnus Ponsonby-Talbot

Swindon Borough Council

[1]Swindon Borough Council
Dear Magnus Ponsonby-Talbot,

Case reference number: FIR000022

Thank you for your request. The Freedom of Information Act creates two
general rights in relation to information:

 1. The right to be told whether or not the information requested is
held
 2. The right to be given that information within 20 working days

A response to your request for information will be sent to you promptly;
and in any event no later than 07/02/2020. Please allow postal time.

If you have logged this request through your My Account you can follow
the progress of your request by logging back in to your [2]Account. If
you don't have an account and you would like one, please [3]contact us
and we will invite you so you can view the above case.

Kind regards, 

Freedom of Information Officer
Swindon Borough Council

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Sharon Druett, Swindon Borough Council

Dear Magnus Ponsonby-Talbot,

Ref FOI0002193 Freedom of Information Request for a Review FIR000022

 

I acknowledge the receipt of your email received in our office on 10^th
January, 2010, requesting a review of the information you were sent in
response to your request.

We aim to deal with internal reviews 'promptly' or not later than 20
working days from receipt of the request, which in this case is 7^th
February, 2020.

The purpose of the review / complaint procedure is to allow a fair and
thorough review of the information that was sent to you. If I cannot
resolve the matter to your satisfaction, you also have the option of
referring it to the Information Governance Manager [1][email address] ,
or directly to the Information Commissioner's Office for a decision,
before we have completed our investigation. Generally, the ICO cannot make
a decision unless you have exhausted the Council's own complaints
procedure.

 

The Information Officer can be contacted at:

The Information Commissioner's Office,

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

Cheshire

SK9 5AF

Email: [email address]

Tel: 01625 545700 (ask for Freedom of Information)

 

If you have any queries about this email, please contact me as detailed,
quoting the above reference number.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Sharon Druett

Freedom of Information Officer (Information Governance)

Information & Technology

Swindon Borough Council

[2][email address]

Tel: 07989 386 988

Web: [3]www.swindon.gov.uk

 

 

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Sharon Druett, Swindon Borough Council

 

Dear Magnus Ponsonby-Talbot,

 

Ref FOI0002193 Freedom of Information Request for a Review FIR000022

 

The purpose of  this process is to allow for a full review of the response
that you received.

I have asked the service area concerned to revisit the request and the
response we sent you.

The original request and response was as follows;

 

Please provide me with the most recent plans the council possess for
reassembling these stones and incorporating them in some other
development. I am aware there have been a number of false starts over the
years.

Response: There are currently no plans, so we do not hold any information
in response to your request.

 

Please also provide details of exactly how much of the portico was
retained, was it simply the columns or was it the pediment too? 

Response: The Portico stones include the principal elements of the
Pediment.

 

You responded as follows;

 

I believe SBC have been disingenuous in their handling of this request.

As far back as 2009 the idea of incorporating these stones into another
building has been mooted, and has been widely reported in the press that
the Council were actively pursuing options. One such option was with a
company called Modus, which went into administration so sadly the venture
went nowhere.

Even if there are no current plans (which was not my question), this then
might be the most recent, potentially, and I would be very surprised if a
copy of those plans didn't rest somewhere in the Council.

I would ask you therefore to revisit my request.

 

I have been advised the development you refer to as you say has lapsed. If
you enter S/02/1649 where prompted on the link below you can view the
details of the planning application
[1]https://pa1.swindon.gov.uk/publicaccess/...

Links to  S/02/1649 | The redevelopment of land bounded by Regent Street,
Temple Street, Commercial Road and Havelock Street for mixed use
development comprising of shop units (Class A1), professional and
financial units (Class A2), restaurants and cafes (Class A3), leisure uses
(Class D2), offices (Class B1), residential, car parking, servicing, plant
and highways improvements to Commercial Road, the refurbishment and
partial re-development of the existing Brunel Shopping Centre and
improvements to Wharf Green. | Land Bounded By Temple Street/Commercial
Road/Havelock Street/Regent Street Swindon

There were discussions about their inclusion as part of this proposal. The
key point is that these plans are no longer in place. This planning
consent has lapsed. It goes back to our original responses - there are no
current plans.

 

I hope this clarifies the Council’s position in response to your request. 

If you are not content with my response you still have the opportunity to
refer the matter to the Information Governance Manager 
[2][email address].

Or the ICO.

 

The Information Officer can be contacted at:

The Information Commissioner's Office,

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

Cheshire

SK9 5AF

 

Email: [3][email address]

Tel: 01625 545700 (ask for Freedom of Information)

 

It is unlikely that the ICO would deal with the matter unless you had
exhausted the Council’s review process first.

If you have any queries about this email please contact me as detailed,
quoting the above reference number.

 

 Yours sincerely,

 

Sharon Druett

 

Sharon Druett

Freedom of Information Officer (Information  Governance)

Information & Technology

Swindon Borough Council

[4][email address]

Tel: 07989 386 988

Web: [5]www.swindon.gov.uk

 

 

From: Sharon Druett
Sent: 22 January 2020 16:35
To: [FOI #625412 email]
Cc: Information Governance <[email address]>
Subject: Re: FIR000022 Internal review of Freedom of Information request -
FOI002193 Swindon Baptist Tabernacle

 

Dear Magnus Ponsonby-Talbot,

 

Ref FOI0002193 Freedom of Information Request for a Review FIR000022

 

I acknowledge the receipt of your email received in our office on 10^th
January, 2010, requesting a review of the information you were sent in
response to your request.

We aim to deal with internal reviews 'promptly' or not later than 20
working days from receipt of the request, which in this case is 7^th
February, 2020.

 

The purpose of the review / complaint procedure is to allow a fair and
thorough review of the information that was sent to you. If I cannot
resolve the matter to your satisfaction, you also have the option of
referring it to the Information Governance Manager [6][email address] ,
or directly to the Information Commissioner's Office for a decision,
before we have completed our investigation. Generally, the ICO cannot make
a decision unless you have exhausted the Council's own complaints
procedure.

 

The Information Officer can be contacted at:

The Information Commissioner's Office,

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

Cheshire

SK9 5AF

 

Email: [7][email address]

Tel: 01625 545700 (ask for Freedom of Information)

 

If you have any queries about this email, please contact me as detailed,
quoting the above reference number.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Sharon Druett

Freedom of Information Officer (Information Governance)

Information & Technology

Swindon Borough Council

[8][email address]

Tel: 07989 386 988

Web: [9]www.swindon.gov.uk

 

 

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