To: Strathclyde Police
Subject: Freedom of Information request - Strathclyde Info Ops

Dear Strathclyde Police,

Can you tell me how many staff employed by Strathclyde Police have had training to be involved in Information Operations?

Can you tell me how many Information Operations Strathclyde Police is involved in; and whether they all take place within
your area (if not please provide breakdown)?

Can you tell me how many persons there are who are targets within Information Operations in your area?

All for date of writing.

Yours faithfully,

Donnie Mackenzie

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Mr Mackenzie

Thank you for your Freedom of Information request.

I would be obliged if you could clarify what you mean by 'Information
Operations'?

Once this clarification is received, we will proceed to process your
application.

Kind regards

INFO

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Dear INFO,

If there is some doubt over which type of operations I am referring to in terms of classification; it would be best that you explicitly state the types of operation which Strathclyde Police are involved in, from which I can then identify.

By going into specific aspects of what Information Operations are and what they entail; I run the risk of ruling out the information sought because the definition may have evolved or your understanding of it may be in some way different to mine.

I recommend consultation with your seniors and some research on the subject. Their are numerous parties who train police on Info Ops and a key related body would be Targeting and Information Operations (TIO) based at Whitehall in London.(http://www.powerbase.info/index.php/Targ...)

Yours sincerely,

Donnie Mackenzie

Colette McFarlane,

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Kind Regards <<response letter.pdf>>
Colette McFarlane
Freedom of Information Officer
Information Management

Strathclyde Police Headquarters
173 Pitt Street, Glasgow, G2 4JS
0141 435 1204 (704 - 1204)
0141 435 1218 (FAX)

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Dear Colette McFarlane,

Thanks for your response dated 3/12/12. Firstly I was wondering why there had been a delay in your response and hoping you could explain this?

Section 8 describes one of the essential elements of a request being a description of the information requested. What I provided is a description since Information Operations are a type of operation.

You have followed the line of alluding to the fact that there is a different term for Information Operations in Scotland but not providing it. This is dissapointing and seems like a purposeful attempt to avoid answering.

Whilst there may be some grounds for temporarily avoiding answering the last two questions, there isn't grounds for avoiding answering the first one which has a clear numerical answer that you have failed to provide.

I believe the honest thing to do would have been to provide that answer and provide guidance as to alternate term(s) for Information Operations in Scotland.

I would like this request referred to an internal review immediately.

I would also like you to open a new request which answers the following:

Is Strathclyde Police involved in any operations which include the use of Psychological Warfare? If so, could you please provide the number of operations and what police area they are located in.

Is Strathclyde Police involved in any surveillance operations which include the use of Electronic Warfare? If so, could you please provide the number of operations and what police area they are located in.

Please also provide the total number of targets (human) within these types of operations.

Yours sincerely,

Donnie Mackenzie

Colette McFarlane,

Mr MacKenzie

The request was slightly delayed as I was awaiting a response from our
central referral unit and I apologise for the slight delay.

With regards to your request we have not avoided answering any of your
questions. As per Section 8, the Act clearly states that the request
must describe the information requested. If the request does not
describe the information then it is perfectly reasonable for the public
authority to clarify the request with the applicant.

As I have explained, we do not use the term information operations and
this could relate to anything within the force. We have 8 police
divisions and numerous departments, therefore, it could relate to any
type of operation within these areas, e.g. firearms, road policing,
crime division. Further, we cannot search for documentation under this
term as we do not use the term, therefore, until we have clarification
it is impossible to even give a numerical figure for question one if we
do not even know what the specifics of your request are. Moreover,
there is no central location where we keep documentation and without
clarification of your request a search would be required of every
division and department within the force to establish what we may
'think' your request relates to, however, under the Act there is no
obligation for us to provide opinion, only recorded information.

Your request will be sent to review and a response sent by 4th January
2013.

Furthermore, your new request below is more specific and this will be
processed in the meantime.

Kind Regards
Colette McFarlane
Freedom of Information Officer
Information Management

Strathclyde Police Headquarters
173 Pitt Street, Glasgow, G2 4JS
0141 435 1204 (704 - 1204)
0141 435 1218 (FAX)

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Please find attached a response in respect of information you have
requested from this Force.

Kind regards

Andrew McCulloch
Freedom of Information Officer
Strathclyde Police
173 Pitt Street
Glasgow
G2 4JS

0141 435 1217
(704)1217

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Dear INFO,

Thanks for the last couple of more detailed responses. I appreciate you taking the time to explain where you are coming from and this helps matters make more sense.

I would like to submit another request.

Please could you tell me if Strathclyde is involved in any joint agency operations which include surveillance?

If so, could you please specify how many operations and how many staff are committed to these at date of writing?

Yours sincerely,

Donnie Mackenzie

Nicola Sloan,

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Good afternoon

Strathclyde Police received your request for information on 13 December
2012. Please quote Ref No 0944/2012 in any further correspondence.

Your request will now be considered under the Freedom of Information
(Scotland) Act 2002 and you will receive a response from us within 20
working days unless otherwise notified.

Thank you

Kind Regards, Nicola

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Nicola Sloan
Analyst Researcher
Information Management
Freedom of Information
Telephone: 0141 435 1215 (704 1215)

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Dear Nicola Sloan,

Thanks for the response. I would like to add to this a request for the total nuber of targets (human) within these operations. Ie. Those who are the subject of surveillance. It is your prerogative whether this is treated as part of the aforementioned request or a new one.

Yours sincerely,

Donnie Mackenzie

Sheena Brennan,

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Good afternoon Mr Mackenzie

 

Please find attached the response to your request for a review of your
recent FOI request.

 

Many thanks

Sheena Brennan
Information Manager
9th Floor, Pegasus House
Tel No 0141 435 (704) 1200
Blackberry 07833403694

 

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Good Afternoon

Please find attached a Strathclyde Police response in respect of your
recent FOI request.

        

Regards

Lorna Grieve
Freedom of Information Officer
Strathclyde Police
Force Disclosure Unit
173 Pitt Street
Glasgow
G2 4JS
Tel No: 0141 435 1262
Fax No: 0141 435 1218
E-Mail: [email address]

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<<Response Letter.pdf>>

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Dear Ms Grieve,

Thanks for that response today. I might consider it a partial response rather than a refusal since you indicate that Strathclyde Police is involved in joint agency operations which involve surveillance.

I would consider the refusal questionable since £600 amounts to a lot of working hours to obtain statistics when it is likely that all related parties in charge are contactable via email, and would likely have the information to hand.

The knowledge of how many people take part in an operation and how many surveillance targets there are is fundamental and rudimentary. If those in charge of operations couldn't provide such information easily then this would raise some more troubling questions.

Having answered question 1, I believe it extremely unlikely that you would have been unable to answer question 3 within the financial limit, and fairly unlikely that you would have been unable to answer question 2.

Please refer this to an internal review.

Yours sincerely,

Donnie Mackenzie

Lorna Grieve,

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Mr Mackenzie

Thank you for your e-mail, dated 18 January 2013, the contents of which I have noted and would appreciate the opportunity to remark upon your observations and provide you with some context around the response.

I stated in my original response that Strathclyde Police are unable to provide you with the number of joint agency operations which include surveillance, within the £600 and 40 hour limit prescribed by the Scottish Ministers under the Act and this remains the position. To explain further, I would advise that while the Force may work with many organisations, they do not take the lead in all instances, accordingly, the recorded information held by Strathclyde Police, relating to any such operations, will be held in various formats, including police officers official notebook, Divisional Briefing, Prisoner Processing System STORM(call management system), etc. Furthermore, if such an operation was led by Strathclyde Police and a surveillance authority had been applied for and granted some basic information, for example operational objectives, would be recorded on a central database, however, to extract the information you have requested would require the physical examination of each case file, which would require a considerable amount of work.

I hope this provides you with a better understanding of the reasoning behind my original response and would welcome any comments you have. Please advise if you require anything further.

Kind Regards

Lorna Grieve
Freedom of Information Officer
Strathclyde Police
173 Pitt Street
Glasgow
G2 4JS
Tel No: 0141 435 1262
Fax No: 0141 435 1218

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Dear Ms Grieve,

Thank you for your response dated 24-1-13 in which you outline challenges associated with an approach to obtaining the information I requested.

I appreciate you taking the time to retrospectively go into some context. And whilst it does prove somewhat informative, I am less convinced that the information couldn't be obtained within the limits than I am that you might believe it.

It is quite commonplace to observe in the media complaints from police about the excessive amounts of red tape which limit their efficiency. The reality of this I don't desire to speculate about. But what I will say is that just as any authority has an organised structure and hierarchy of staff; it also has an organised structure and hierarchy of administration. Paper and electronic trails tend to litter large scale public body activities. Where agreements are reached between organisations, this is likely to be documented. Where staff are deployed in an externally led activity there is likely to be a record of their deployment.

A typical active surveillance operation would tend to have a total compliment of staff which is comfortably into double figures. This is an expensive use of resources which would need to be accounted for.

Whether through guidance, instruction or personal choice, it seems to be the case that in mentioning things like police officers official notebooks, you are focused on the lower end of the administrative system. You seem to be indicating that you would foresee difficulty in obtaining All of the requested information because you think you would have to resort to the use of such records. Yet the information is referenced only in relation to the staffing of the externally led operations.

Should I construe this explanation as an indication that you are trying to evade the need for an internal review; or that you might be willing to provide some of the information requested?

Yours sincerely,

Donnie Mackenzie

Lorna Grieve,

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Mr Mackenzie

The e-mail I sent yesterday was not intended to stall in any way the process relative to an internal review, it was merely to provide some context around my original response. An internal review panel will be convened and the review will be conducted in accordance with the Force Review Procedures. Every effort will be made to have a response to you within 20 working days (by 15 February 2013), however, if it becomes clear that the review will not be completed within this time you will be contacted.

Kind Regards

Lorna Grieve

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Dear Ms Grieve,

Thanks for the response and confirmation.

Yours sincerely,

Donnie Mackenzie

Nicola Sloan,

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Good afternoon

Please find attached response.

Kind regards, Nicola

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Nicola Sloan
Analyst Researcher
Information Management
Freedom of Information
Telephone: 0141 435 1215 (704 1215)

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