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Dear Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust,

Please provide statistics on suicide in the area covered by the Trust, with geographic breakdown by region covered by the Trust

Number of suicides by year and month
Number of suicides where the individual was a patient of Pennine Care Trust
Number of suicides where the individual had previously been a patient of Pennine Care Trust
Population count in the area
Suicide rate stated by population count, and how this compares to national averages
In addition to totals, please provide numbers by age group (eg 40's, 30's) and sex of the individuals

Please provide information for the last three years.

Yours faithfully,

G Davies

penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

Dear Mr Davies,

FOI ref: 2015/0494

Thank you for your request for information dated 27th May 2015.

We will consider your request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. You should receive a response within 20 working days, in this case by 27th May 2015.
The information you have requested might not be given to you if it is exempt or contains references to third parties.

We will inform you if:

• we are unable to achieve this deadline. We aim to give you a revised due date as soon as possible.
• we are unable to give you the information as responding to your request exceeds the 'appropriate limit'. This might apply if it would take us longer than 18 hours to retrieve, collate and provide the information you request.
• we need to transfer your request (in full or part) to another public authority so we can fully answer your request.

If you have any questions about this request, please contact me quoting the reference number above.

Yours sincerely,

Julie Higginbottom
Information Governance Officer

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust
225 Old Street
Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

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penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

 

Dear Mr Davies,

 

FOI ref: 2015/0494

 

Please accept my sincere apologies that we have been unable to provide you
with a response by 27^th May 2015.

 

We will endeavour to respond to your request for information as soon as
this information is made available to us.

 

If you would like to discuss this further, please don’t hesitate to
contact me.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Julie Higginbottom

Information Governance Officer

 

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

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Dear Mr Davies,

 

FOI ref:  2015/0494

 

Further to your email below, I can now respond to your request dated 25^th
April 2015.

 

“Please provide statistics on suicide in the area covered by the Trust,
with geographic breakdown by region covered by the Trust”

 

“Number of suicides by year and month”  Please find this in the attached
report.

 

“Number of suicides where the individual was a patient of Pennine Care
Trust”  Data relating to patients in/within services during the last 12
months.

 

“Number of suicides where the individual had previously been a patient of
Pennine Care Trust”  Data relating to patients in/within services during
the last 12 months.

 

“Population count in the area”   “Suicide rate stated by population count,
and how this compares to national averages”  We do not record this
information.  You may be able to find the information publicly using
Internet search engines.

 

“In addition to totals, please provide numbers by age group (e.g. 40's,
30's) and sex of the individuals”  Please find this in the attached
report.

 

“Please provide information for the last three years i.e.  2012-2013,
2013-2014, 2014-2015”  Data extracted from period 01/04/2012 to
31/03/2015.

 

Please contact me if you would like to discuss any aspect of this
response.

 

If you are not satisfied with the way your request has been handled by the
Trust or if you have any other concerns, you can ask us to review our
response by replying to this email or contacting us using the details in
my email signature below.

 

You should ask us to review our response before contacting the Information
Commissioner’s Office (ICO). If you are not satisfied following our review
you may contact the ICO:

 

Address:        The Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House,
Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF.

Email:             [1][email address]

Phone:           0303 123 1113

 

Yours sincerely

 

Julie Higginbottom

Information Governance Officer

 

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

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Dear penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST),

Just to clarify, for 'population' what is required is the number of 'mental health service users'

Please supply number of suicides and number of 'mental health service users' for each year and also a geographic breakdown, eg numbers for Bury, numbers for Stockport etc

Also I think the number of males/females provided for 2014/15 is not correct, as it doesn't agree to the total for the year.

Yours sincerely,

G Davies

penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

Dear Mr Davies,

 

FOI ref:  2015/0715

 

Thank you for your request for information dated 13th June 2015.

 

We will consider your request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. 
You should receive a response within 20 working days, in this case by 13th
July 2015.

The information you have requested might not be given to you if it is
exempt or contains references to third parties.

 

We will inform you if:

 

• we are unable to achieve this deadline.  We aim to give you a revised
due date as soon as possible.

• we are unable to give you the information as responding to your request
exceeds the 'appropriate limit'.  This might apply if it would take us
longer than 18 hours to retrieve, collate and provide the information you
request.

• we need to transfer your request (in full or part) to another public
authority so we can fully answer your request.

 

With reference to the number of males/females provided for 2014/15, we
have checked the figures on each tab for 2014/15 and each sum total is 29.

 

If you have any questions about this request, please contact me quoting
the reference number above.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Julie Higginbottom

Information Governance Officer

 

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

 

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Dear Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust's handling of my FOI request 'Statistics on suicide'.

The request for information has only been partially provided.
A clarification on what was required has been provided some weeks ago.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/s...

Yours faithfully,

G Davies

penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

Good morning

I will be the case worker for this internal review.

Regarding question "population count in the area" and "suicide rate by population count", am I to understand you are seeking:

Population count in the area = ALL mental health service users in the area (i.e. Pennine Care service users and any mental health service users who are not under Pennine Care) with geographic breakdown
Suicide rate by population count = Out of ALL mental health service users in the area (i.e. Pennine Care service users and any mental health service users who are not under Pennine Care) how many have committed suicide

If this interpretation is incorrect, please clarify.

I agree the male/female breakdown appears incorrect. It appears to be a duplicate of 2013/2014. I will clarify this as a matter of urgency.

Kind regards

Sarah Browne
Senior Information Governance & Risk Officer

Website: www.penninecare.nhs.uk

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust
225 Old Street
Ashton-under-Lyne
OL6 7SR

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Dear penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST),

For 'population' please supply number of 'mental health service users' . I understand this includes persons where there has been contact within the last 12 months. Please supply the geographic breakdown.
Apologies for the confusion by my using an imprecise term.

Yours sincerely,

G Davies

penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

Not a problem. I will be providing a full clarified response once I have one, but just to let you know in the interim the male/female ratio for 2014/2015 should have read M-16 and F-13.

Kind regards

Sarah Browne

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penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

Good morning

The business area has asked for a quick clarification. The information we have provided so far has been in financial years (i.e. Apr 2014/Mar 2015). From the format of your request it appears you are asking for financial years. Are you happy for us to progress using financial years to report these statistics?

Kind regards

Sarah Browne

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penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

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Dear G Davies,

 

FOI ref:  2015/0494

 

Thank you for your email to Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust dated 2^nd
July 2015 regarding a request for an internal review of our disclosure
dated 9^th June 2015. 

 

I have reviewed and responded to this request as an independent reviewer
under the Freedom of Information Act (2000).

 

Initial Request

 

Your initial request dated 25^th April 2015 stated:

 

Please provide statistics on suicide in the area covered by the Trust,
with geographic breakdown by region covered by the Trust

 

Number of suicides by year and month

Number of suicides where the individual was a patient of Pennine Care
Trust Number of suicides where the individual had previously been a
patient of Pennine Care Trust Population count in the area Suicide rate
stated by population count, and how this compares to national averages In
addition to totals, please provide numbers by age group (eg 40's, 30's)
and sex of the individuals

 

We responded to your request on 9^th June 2015.  I note the legislative
deadline for this request was 27^th May 2015, and as such we were in
breach of S.10(1) of the Freedom of Information Act by providing our
response after the twenty working day deadline had elapsed. 

 

On 13^th June 2015 you responded to our email, asking:

 

Just to clarify, for 'population' what is required is the number of
'mental health service users'

 

Please supply number of suicides and number of 'mental health service
users' for each year and also a geographic breakdown, eg numbers for Bury,
numbers for Stockport etc

 

Also I think the number of males/females provided for 2014/15 is not
correct, as it doesn't agree to the total for the year.

 

Unfortunately, the Trust did not recognise that this was a query regarding
the disclosure, and as such this was logged as a new Freedom of
Information request. 

 

Internal Review

 

On 2^nd July 2015 you sent us the following email:

 

Dear Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust,

 

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information
reviews.

 

I am writing to request an internal review of Pennine Care NHS Foundation
Trust's handling of my FOI request 'Statistics on suicide'.

 

The request for information has only been partially provided.

A clarification on what was required has been provided some weeks ago.

 

 

I acknowledged receipt of your request for review on 3^rd July 2015 and
requested the following clarification:

 

Regarding question "population count in the area" and "suicide rate by
population count", am I to understand you are seeking:

 

Population count in the area = ALL mental health service users in the area
(i.e. Pennine Care service users and any mental health service users who
are not under Pennine Care) with geographic breakdown Suicide rate by
population count = Out of ALL mental health service users in the area
(i.e. Pennine Care service users and any mental health service users who
are not under Pennine Care) how many have committed suicide

 

You replied on the same day advising:

 

For 'population' please supply number of 'mental health service users' . I
understand this includes persons where there has been contact within the
last 12 months. Please supply the geographic breakdown.

 

Later that day, I provided advice regarding your query about the gender
breakdown for 2014/2015, stating:

 

I will be providing a full clarified response once I have one, but just to
let you know in the interim the male/female ratio for 2014/2015 should
have read M-16 and F-13. 

 

 

Findings of Internal Review

 

As the internal reviewer, I have taken a fresh approach to the handling of
your request.  Having undertaken my review, I have recognise a need to
overturn the Trust’s initial decision and disclosure.

 

My reasons are as follows:

 

I have established that the information you were given does not accurately
answer the questions asked.  The information you have been provided with
is based on suspected suicides.  The caseworker was unaware of this in
responding to your request.  If this would have been known, in line with
the S.45 Code of Practice, best practice would have been to provide an
outline of the different kinds of information we hold that might have met
the terms of the request [Paragraph 10 of the Code].  Had we been aware of
this information, we would have advised you we hold statistics regarding
incidents recorded as suspected suicide, and information regarding
Coroner’s verdicts of suicides/taking own life, and asked which
information would be most suitable for your needs. 

 

To provide an accurate answer to your question at this stage, I have
provided my new decision below based on suicide and taken own life
verdicts from the Coroner.  This is because, upon investigation, a number
of the suspected suicides will be found by the Coroner to be death by
other means (e.g. misadventure, accident, open verdict). 

 

New Disclosure

 

Searches were conducted within Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust (the
Trust) to locate the requested information and I can confirm that some of
the information requested is held by the Trust.

 

Please see the attached spreadsheet entitled IR 2015-0494 Suicide
breakdown. 

 

Please bear in mind the following when considering this data:

·         Coroner’s verdicts are stored by date of the coroner’s hearing. 
This is the date that a suicide or taken own life verdict would be
confirmed.  In line with the previous request, I have provided data from
coroner’s hearings concluded in financial years 2012/13, 2013/14 and
2014/15.  You will note dates of death before your specified time frame as
a result.

·         Sex is not held within the records we hold from thehearings. 
Where name is held, and where unambiguous (e.g. Ashley could be a male or
female name and as such could not be assumed), we have manually assessed
the likely gender as a gesture of good will. 

·         Likewise, age at time of death is not held, so this has been
manually calculated for you. 

 

Within the spreadsheet you will find a breakdown of:

 

·         Suicides broken down by month and year (as stated above, these
statistics are based on date of death from inquests finalised in your
specified time period)

·         Ages of the deceased, again broken down by month and year of
date of death

·         Sex, where known, broken down by month and year of death

·         Borough, broken down by month and year of death.

 

We’re unable to provide a breakdown of the deceased who were current
patients and former patients.  The Trust does not distinguish within the
records.  All individuals who have been a patient of the Trust within the
last 12 months are captured by the data disclosed.

 

For population, I understand you seek total number of mental health
service users within the Trust. 

 

Please see the attached spreadsheet entitled 2015-0494 Pennine Care Mental
Health Service Users Total. 

 

This spreadsheet shows the number of Mental Health Services users
categorised by Borough for the last 3 financial years. When considering
this data, please bear in mind the following caveats:

 

·         The figures in the report show the number of new referrals
during the last 3 financial years.

·         Where a patient has been referred more than once to the same
borough in any given year then they would only be counted in the report
once.

·         If a patient has been referred in multiple areas, they will
appear more than once.  For example if a person was referred twice to
Bury, 4 times to Rochdale and 1 time to Oldham in any given year, then
they would be counted in the report 3 times (1 each for Bury, Rochdale and
Oldham respectively)

·         The borough is listed is ‘All’ where patients have accessed
services across all boroughs.

 

We do not hold information about national averages.  You may find an
internet search helpful in obtaining these.  I found the following sources
that may assist you:

 

·         The Office of National Statistics publish statistics regarding
suicides up to 2013
[1]http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/taxonomy/index...

·         Samaritans have published a report for 2011-2013 data
[2]http://www.samaritans.org/sites/default/...

·         The National Confidential Inquiry conducted by the University of
Manchester created a very detailed report into suicide.  Their data
appears to go up to 2012
[3]http://www.bbmh.manchester.ac.uk/cmhs/ce...

 

 

 

S.16 Advice and Assistance Regarding Initial Request

 

Further, in accordance with S.16, I wish to provide an informed and
accurate account of the information provided as part of the initial
disclosure (i.e. the information you initially queried and advised was
incomplete).  

 

As stated earlier, the statistics below refer to suspected suicide
statistics as this is what is recorded in an easily retrievable format by
the Trust.  If a suicide is suspected the case will be referred to the
Coroner for a final verdict regarding cause of death. 

 

Please see the attached report entitled IR 2015-0494 Suspected suicides.

 

“Number of suicides by year and month” 

 

We do not hold the general suicide figures in the area. 

 

You may be able to obtain that information by contacting Coroner’s Offices
within the area.  They are not subject to FOI, but may be willing to
assist.  The internet sources I provided above may also assist.

 

“Number of suicides where the individual was a patient of Pennine Care
Trust” 

 

Please see the attached report.

 

We’re unable to provide a breakdown of the deceased who were current
patients and former patients.  The Trust does not distinguish within the
records regarding suspected suicides.  All individuals who have been a
patient of the Trust within the last 12 months are captured by the data
disclosed.

 

“Number of suicides where the individual had previously been a patient of
Pennine Care Trust” 

 

Please see the attached report.

 

We’re unable to provide a breakdown of the deceased who were current
patients and former patients.  The Trust does not distinguish within the
records regarding suspected suicides.  All individuals who have been a
patient of the Trust within the last 12 months are captured by the data
disclosed.

 

 

“Population count in the area”   “Suicide rate stated by population count,
and how this compares to national averages” 

 

You clarified this as “please supply number of 'mental health service
users'. I understand this includes persons where there has been contact
within the last 12 months. Please supply the geographic breakdown.”

 

Please see the attached spreadsheet entitled 2015-0494 Pennine Care Mental
Health Service Users Total. 

 

As stated above, we do not hold any information regarding national
averages.

 

“In addition to totals, please provide numbers by age group (e.g. 40's,
30's) and sex of the individuals” 

 

Please see the attached report.

 

“Please provide information for the last three years i.e.  2012-2013,
2013-2014, 2014-2015” 

 

Provided within the attached report.

 

 

 

Complaint Rights

 

Your attention is drawn to the details below, which outline your right of
complaint.

 

Should you have any further queries concerning this matter, please email,
write or contact the team on telephone number 0161 716 3146 quoting the
reference number above.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Sarah Browne

Senior Information Governance & Risk Officer

 

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

 

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COMPLAINT RIGHTS

 

Are you unhappy with how your request has been handled or do you think the
decision is incorrect?

 

You have the right to require Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust to review
their decision.

 

Prior to lodging a formal complaint you are welcome and encouraged to
discuss the decision with the case officer that dealt with your request.

 

Ask to have the decision looked at again –

The quickest and easiest way to have the decision looked at again is to
telephone the case officer.

 

That person will be able to discuss the decision, explain any issues and
assist with any problems.

 

Complaint

If you are dissatisfied with the handling procedures or the decision of
Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust made under the Freedom of Information
Act 2000 regarding access to information, you can lodge a complaint with
Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust to have the decision reviewed.

 

Complaints should be made in writing and addressed:

The Information Governance Manager

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

 

If email is prefered, complaints may be sent to
[4][Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust request email].

 

The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust if you
are still dissatisfied with the decision you can make an application to
the Information Commissioner for a decision on whether the request for
information has been dealt with in accordance with the requirements of the
Act.

 

For information on how to make an application to the Information
Commissioner please visit their website at
[5]www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk.  Alternatively, phone or write to:

 

Information Commissioner's Office

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

Cheshire

SK9 5AF

Phone:  01625 545 700

 

 

 

 

 

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References

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2. http://www.samaritans.org/sites/default/...
3. http://www.bbmh.manchester.ac.uk/cmhs/ce...
4. mailto:[Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust request email]
5. http://www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk/

Dear Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust's handling of my FOI request 'Statistics on suicide'.

In the data you have provided you show no deaths in Stockport for October 2014. I am aware that there was at least one death involving a patient being treated at Stepping Hill Hospital in Stockport for October 2014, and the death was in fact exactly a year ago today.

Do you accept that there is something wrong with your data?
Are you now able to supply the correct data?

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/s...

Yours faithfully,

G Davies

penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

Dear Mr Davies,

 

FOI ref: 2014/1214

 

Thank you for your email dated 18^th October 2015.

 

We will review your request and respond in due course.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Julie Higginbottom

Information Governance Administrator

 

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

 

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Dear penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST),

I shall be grateful if you will also provide an analysis of reports the Trust has received from Coroners. Please provide totals for each year from 2010 to 2015 (to date). Please breakdown the data by the geographical borough’s to which the Trust provides mental health services. The Coroners reports are to include the old ‘Rule 43 reports’ and also the new ‘Reports on action to prevent future deaths’ under Regulations 28 and 29 of The Coroners (Investigations) Regulations 2013.

Yours sincerely,

G Davies

penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

 

Dear Mr Davies,

 

FOI ref:  2015/1245

 

Thank you for your request for information dated 23^rd October 2015.

 

We will consider your request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. 
You should receive a response within 20 working days, in this case by
20^th November 2015.

The information you have requested might not be given to you if it is
exempt or contains references to third parties.

 

We will inform you if:

 

• we are unable to achieve this deadline.  We aim to give you a revised
due date as soon as possible.

• we are unable to give you the information as responding to your request
exceeds the 'appropriate limit'.  This might apply if it would take us
longer than 18 hours to retrieve, collate and provide the information you
request.

• we need to transfer your request (in full or part) to another public
authority so we can fully answer your request.

 

If you have any questions about this request, please contact me quoting
the reference number above.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Julie Higginbottom

Information Governance Administrator

 

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

 

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Dear G Davies,

 

FOI ref:  2015/1214

 

Thank you for your email to Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust dated 18^th
October 2015.  I have reviewed the information provided to you under the
Freedom of Information Act (2000).

 

Internal Review

 

On 18^th October 2015 you sent us the following email:

 

Dear Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust,

 

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information
reviews.

 

I am writing to request an internal review of Pennine Care NHS Foundation
Trust's handling of my FOI request 'Statistics on suicide'.

 

In the data you have provided you show no deaths in Stockport for October
2014. I am aware that there was at least one death involving a patient
being treated at Stepping Hill Hospital in Stockport for October 2014, and
the death was in fact exactly a year ago today.

 

Do you accept that there is something wrong with your data?

Are you now able to supply the correct data?

 

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on
the Internet at this address:
[1]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/s...

 

Yours faithfully,

 

G Davies

 

We acknowledged receipt of your request for review on Tuesday 20^th
October 2015. 

 

Findings of Internal Review

 

As the internal reviewer, I have taken a fresh approach to the handling of
your request.  Having undertaken my review, I have recognise a need to
overturn the Trust’s disclosure regarding the previously provided
suspected suicide statistics. 

 

I have established there were errors in the information provided by the
business area pertaining to the suspected suicide statistics. 
Specifically, the boroughs were incorrect.  The statistical number,
including monthly breakdown, were accurate; however, inaccuracies had
arisen in the named boroughs. 

 

The statistics have been run again by the business area, and I have
verified their accuracy by running the analysis with the raw data myself. 
Please be aware, the information is gathered from a live system that is
constantly being updated as information comes to light about each case. 
As such, the totals now differ to those provided within the last
disclosure. 

 

New Disclosure

 

Please see the attached spreadsheet entitled IR 2015-1214 Suspected
Suicides.

 

As stated in earlier correspondence, the statistics refer to suspected
suicide statistics as this is what is recorded in an easily retrievable
format by the Trust.  If a suicide is suspected, the case will be referred
to the Coroner for a final verdict regarding cause of death. 

 

Also note, the data captures individuals who have been a patient in the 12
months prior to their death. 

 

Complaint Rights

 

Your attention is drawn to the details below, which outline your right of
complaint.

 

Should you have any further queries concerning this matter, please email,
write or contact the team on telephone number 0161 716 3146 quoting the
reference number above.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Sarah Browne

Senior Information Governance & Risk Officer

 

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

 

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COMPLAINT RIGHTS

 

Are you unhappy with how your request has been handled or do you think the
decision is incorrect?

 

You have the right to require Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust to review
their decision.

 

Prior to lodging a formal complaint you are welcome and encouraged to
discuss the decision with the case officer that dealt with your request.

 

Ask to have the decision looked at again –

The quickest and easiest way to have the decision looked at again is to
telephone the case officer.

 

That person will be able to discuss the decision, explain any issues and
assist with any problems.

 

Complaint

If you are dissatisfied with the handling procedures or the decision of
Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust made under the Freedom of Information
Act 2000 regarding access to information, you can lodge a complaint with
Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust to have the decision reviewed.

 

Complaints should be made in writing and addressed:

The Information Governance Manager

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

 

If email is prefered, complaints may be sent to
[2][Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust request email].

 

The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust if you
are still dissatisfied with the decision you can make an application to
the Information Commissioner for a decision on whether the request for
information has been dealt with in accordance with the requirements of the
Act.

 

For information on how to make an application to the Information
Commissioner please visit their website at
[3]www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk.  Alternatively, phone or write to:

 

Information Commissioner's Office

Wycliffe House

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penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

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Dear Mr Davies,

 

FOI ref:  2015/1245

 

Further to your email below, I can now respond to your request dated 23^rd
October 2015.

 

Following receipt of your request, searches were conducted within Pennine
Care NHS Foundation Trust (the Trust) to locate the requested information
and I can confirm that some of the information requested is held by the
Trust.

 

Please find attached information requested in relation to Rule 43/Reg 28
notices issued to the Trust from 2010 to 2015.

 

Please note, the Trust does not hold any analyses of reports – we only
hold them as full copies. 

 

Complaint Rights

 

Your attention is drawn to the details below, which outline your right of
complaint.

 

Should you have any further queries concerning this matter, please email,
write or contact the team on telephone number 0161 716 3147 quoting the
reference number above.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Julie Higginbottom

Information Governance Administrator

 

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

 

 

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COMPLAINT RIGHTS

 

Are you unhappy with how your request has been handled or do you think the
decision is incorrect?

 

You have the right to require Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust to review
their decision.

 

Prior to lodging a formal complaint you are welcome and encouraged to
discuss the decision with the case officer that dealt with your request.

 

Ask to have the decision looked at again –

The quickest and easiest way to have the decision looked at again is to
telephone the case officer.

 

That person will be able to discuss the decision, explain any issues and
assist with any problems.

 

Complaint

If you are dissatisfied with the handling procedures or the decision of
Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust made under the Freedom of Information
Act 2000 regarding access to information, you can lodge a complaint with
Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust to have the decision reviewed.

 

Complaints should be made in writing and addressed:

The Information Governance Manager

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

 

If email is prefered, complaints may be sent to
[1][Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust request email].

 

The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust if you
are still dissatisfied with the decision you can make an application to
the Information Commissioner for a decision on whether the request for
information has been dealt with in accordance with the requirements of the
Act.

 

For information on how to make an application to the Information
Commissioner please visit their website at
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Dear Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust's handling of my FOI request 'Statistics on suicide'.

The data provided here seems to conflict with the data the Trust has provided previously

2010 , 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015,
Now provided
All patient suicides, 44, 80, 74, 76, 64, 60,
Coroner concluded, 22, 38 , 38, 32, 36, 34,

Previously provided
Statistics on suicide 2013, 2014, 2015,
IR 2015 1214, 46, 49, 31,

Variance, 14 , 13, -3,

Are you able to explain why there is a variance please?
Does the Trust hold reliable statistics on suicides?

You state
"The Trust do not hold information pertaining to the number of suicides
committed by members of the public who reside in the area served by the
Trust. We only hold information regarding our service users. "

In January 2016 in my role as an elected Public Governor of the Trust, I was provided with the document 'Borough Mapping' written by Zoe Molyneux, Director of Quality Governance for the Trust. This document quotes figures for 2011, 2012 and 2013 for general population suicide. The data was supplied to the Trust by the National Confidential Inquiry into Suicide and Homicide by People with Mental Illness (NCI). I don't believe this NCI data is publicly available.

I therefore suggest to you that the Trust does hold information pertaining to the number of suicides
committed by members of the public who reside in the area served by the
Trust.

NCI has confirmed that the ten year average from January 2003 to December 2013 for Service Users/Patients completing suicide as a percentage of all suicides was 23%.
The data indicates that over the last six years this percentage has increased significantly.
I am concerned that many of the Trust's patients, perhaps around 20 each year, are dying unnecessarily, in horrific circumstances.
Do you have an explanation? Are the Directors of the Trust concerned by the data?

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/s...

Yours faithfully,

G Davies

penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

Dear Mr Davies,

 

FOI ref: 2016/0284

 

Thank you for your email dated 4^th April 2016.

 

We will consider your email as an internal review and you should receive a
response within 20 working days – in this case, by 3^rd May 2016.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Julie Higginbottom

Information Governance Administrator

 

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

 

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Take your time, I'm sure we will get there in the end.
In the meantime, no doubt, patients continue to die unnecessarily, in the most appalling horrific circumstances.

penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

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Dear Mr Davies,

 

FOI ref:  2016/0284

 

I write further to your email below requesting an internal review.  You
raise the following points:

 

Point 1 – The data provided here seems to conflict with the data the Trust
has provided previously

 

Point 2 – Are you able to explain why there is a variance please?

 

Point 3 – Does the Trust hold reliable statistics on suicides?

 

Point 4 – In January 2016 in my role as an elected Public Governor of the
Trust,  I was provided with the document 'Borough Mapping' written by Zoe
Molyneux, Director of Quality Governance for the Trust. This document
quotes figures for 2011, 2012 and 2013 for general population suicide. 
The data was supplied to the Trust by the National Confidential Inquiry
into Suicide and Homicide by People with Mental Illness (NCI). I don't
believe this NCI data is publicly available.

 

I therefore suggest to you that the Trust does hold information pertaining
to the number of suicides committed by members of the public who reside in
the area served by the Trust.

 

Point 5 – NCI has confirmed that the ten year average from January 2003 to
December 2013 for Service Users/Patients completing suicide as a
percentage of all suicides was 23%.

The data indicates that over the last six years this percentage has
increased significantly.

I am concerned that many of the Trust's patients, perhaps around 20 each
year, are dying unnecessarily, in horrific circumstances.

 

Do you have an explanation?  Are the Directors of  the Trust concerned by
the data?

 

I will consider each point in turn.

 

Point  1 – “The data provided here seems to conflict with the data the
Trust has provided previously”

 

The data you have quoted in the email below does not relate to the
information the Trust disclosed under the Freedom of Information Act
(2000) on 4^th April 2016.

 

Presenting the information in the format you have used, I can confirm the
data we have disclosed to you is as follows:

 

 

 

2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015
New disclosure Unconfirmed suicides 11 21 18 22 14 26
(2016/0284) Coroner concluded 11 19 19 16 18 17

 

2012/2013 2013/2014 2014/2015
Past disclosure Suspected suicides 46 49 31
(2015/1214)

 

 

This is the data quoted on your request for an internal review:

 

2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015
New disclosure All patient suicides 44 80 74 76 64 60
(2016/0284) Coroner concluded 22 38 38 32 36 34
Past disclosure Statistics on x x x 46 49 31
(2015/1214) suicide
Variance 14 13 -3

 

Firstly, you have misquoted the coroner concluded statistics regarding
response 2016/0284.  You appear to have multiplied the statistics we have
provided by 2. 

 

Secondly, the “all patient suicides” data quoted appears to be the sum of
the coroner confirmed and unconfirmed suicides from 2016/0284, again
multiplied by 2 (except 2015 – 60 which does not fit this pattern).

 

Thirdly, it appears you have subtracted the doubled Coroner concluded
suicides (from 2016/0284) from the “statistics on suicide” disclosure made
under reference 2015/1214 to calculate variance.  These statistics are not
comparable as they represent different datasets, as explained in point 2. 

 

Point 2 – “Are you able to explain why there is a variance please?”

 

As outlined in our response to 2015/1214, the “statistics on suicide”
provided under 2015/1214 are statistics regarding all the suspected
suicides that were held by the Trust at that time.  The electronic system
used did not record Coroner’s conclusions, and as such the data provided
under 2015/1214 contained deaths that may have later received a Coroner’s
conclusion, such as suicide, misadventure, alcohol/drug related etc.  The
statistics simply represented all the deaths that were believed to have
been suicides.

 

Since disclosure 2015/1214, the Trust recognised that there were
opportunities for development of the Trust incident reporting system, and
improvements were made to the risk administration processes in order to
ensure that updated information was adequately captured to support data
extraction.  The Risk Department has therefore reviewed its incident
reporting processes to ensure that incidents initially reported as
suspected suicide deaths within the electronic Safeguard system are
consistently updated to include Coroner’s conclusions.  This better
ensures that the data extracted reflects the most up to date information
available to the Trust.

 

Also, the data provided under 2015/1214 was in financial years (albeit
with a breakdown by month).  The information provided under reference
2016/0284 is in calendar years. 

 

Point 3 – “Does the Trust hold reliable statistics on suicides?”

 

The Trust incident reporting system (Safeguard) is a live system,
therefore the data will change dependant on further information becoming
available.  Although a death may be reported as a “suspected suicide”
based on the information available to the service, at the time of
reporting, this may be reviewed and updated as further information becomes
available.  As such the suspected and confirmed suicide figures will
change as further information in regards to the cause of death is received
and post mortem results and inquest conclusion become available.

 

Importantly the Trust will not attribute a suicide outcome to a death
until this has been concluded by the Coroner.

 

Please also note there are limits to the reliability of statistical
information held by the Trust given that the information available to
produce the data may not, at any given time, be considered reliable and /
or complete e.g.:

 

•             Initial reports of suspected suicide deaths may come from
variable sources which may subsequently prove to be unreliable e.g. media
reports, fellow service users

•             The circumstances of death may not be clear

•             There may be some delay in the Trust being alerted to a
possible patient suicide in the community, as it may not be initially
apparent to the Police / Coroner that there was any contact with the Trust

•             The communication to the Trust of cause of death, post
mortem, and Coroner’s conclusions may not be timely

 

Point 4 – “In January 2016 in my role as an elected Public Governor of the
Trust,  I was provided with the document 'Borough Mapping' written by Zoe
Molyneux, Director of Quality Governance for the Trust. This document
quotes figures for 2011, 2012 and 2013 for general population suicide. 
The data was supplied to the Trust by the National Confidential Inquiry
into Suicide and Homicide by People with Mental Illness (NCI). I don't
believe this NCI data is publicly available.

 

I therefore suggest to you that the Trust does hold information pertaining
to the number of suicides committed by members of the public who reside in
the area served by the Trust.”

 

The Trust accept we received statistics from the National Confidential
Inquiry (NCI), the UK’s leading research programme in this field,
regarding suicide and open verdict deaths (which NCI classify as probable
suicides).  The Trust contacted the NCI to obtain the statistics for the
Council of Governors for the purposes of benchmarking the Trust suicide
death rates against national averages. 

 

The NCI responded in October 2015 to confirm that they were able to
provide the number of general population suicides and open verdicts in the
boroughs that fell under Pennine Care (apart from Trafford whose
statistics were not provided) for the years 2011-2013, but that the
information was currently incomplete for 2014.  Due to their ethical
approval agreement, they were unable to provide the numbers for the
individual areas for patient data as these are less than 10 per year in
each area.  The NCI therefore provided the Trust with information on
aggregate trust data for the years 2003-2013 (which we understand was the
most complete dataset).

 

For your information, I have attached the information received from the
NCI.  I apologise that this information was not provided as part of the
initial response.  The business area was unaware that this would
constitute information held by the Trust for the purposes of the Freedom
of Information Act (2000).  We reiterate, however, we do not collate that
information as standard. 

 

In reviewing the information provided, please note the figures represent
both Coroner confirmed suicide and open verdicts, which the NCI have
considered to be probable suicides.  Please note, the Trust do not record
Coroner’s open verdicts as suspected suicides – they are recorded as open
verdict.  Furthermore, we cannot confirm that the geographic boundaries
used by the NCI match the boundaries recognised by the Trust. 

 

Point 5 – NCI has confirmed that the ten year average from January 2003 to
December 2013 for Service Users/Patients completing suicide as a
percentage of all suicides was 23%.

The data indicates that over the last six years this percentage has
increased significantly.

I am concerned that many of the Trust's patients, perhaps around 20 each
year, are dying unnecessarily, in horrific circumstances.

 

Do you have an explanation?  Are the Directors of  the Trust concerned by
the data?

 

As you can see from the attached, nationally there were 52,759 suicides
and open verdict (probable suicides) between 2003 and 2013.  Nationally,
within that time-period, 27% of those suicides involved contact with
mental health services within one year prior to death.  Within the
boroughs served by the Trust (excluding Trafford), 23% of suicides and
open verdicts (probable suicides), in that time period, involved contact
with mental health services within one year prior to death.  The Trust was
therefore below the national average.

 

The Trust is clear that any episode of suicide represents a tragic loss of
life, and the consequences of these deaths will be catastrophic for loved
ones, family and friends.

 

As such, the Trust is committed to ensuring that there is effective
learning in order to implement change.  There are both formal and informal
reporting routes to ensure the Executive Team and Trust Board are made
aware of serious incidents and investigation outcomes in a timely manner. 
In addition, the Trust Mortality Review Group and Suicide Prevention
Group, whose membership includes representatives from the Executive Team,
leads on identifying measures to reduce preventable deaths.

 

The Trust will therefore continue to closely monitor all mortality data to
identify emerging trends and themes; and will review data gathering,
incident review, and investigation processes accordingly in light of any
new development in order to ensure data continues to be meaningful and
supports changes to improve safety.

 

Complaint Rights

 

Your attention is drawn to the details below, which outline your right of
complaint.

 

Should you have any further queries concerning this matter, please email,
write or contact the team on telephone number 0161 716 3145 quoting the
reference number above.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Penny Baxter

Information Governance Manager

 

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

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Are you unhappy with how your request has been handled or do you think the
decision is incorrect?

 

You have the right to require Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust to review
their decision.

 

Prior to lodging a formal complaint you are welcome and encouraged to
discuss the decision with the case officer that dealt with your request.

 

Ask to have the decision looked at again –

The quickest and easiest way to have the decision looked at again is to
telephone the case officer.

 

That person will be able to discuss the decision, explain any issues and
assist with any problems.

 

Complaint

If you are dissatisfied with the handling procedures or the decision of
Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust made under the Freedom of Information
Act 2000 regarding access to information, you can lodge a complaint with
Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust to have the decision reviewed.

 

Complaints should be made in writing and addressed:

The Information Governance Manager

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

 

If email is prefered, complaints may be sent to
[1][Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust request email].

 

The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust if you
are still dissatisfied with the decision you can make an application to
the Information Commissioner for a decision on whether the request for
information has been dealt with in accordance with the requirements of the
Act.

 

For information on how to make an application to the Information
Commissioner please visit their website at
[2]www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk.  Alternatively, phone or write to:

 

Information Commissioner's Office

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

 

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Dear penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST),

Please supply for each year from 2003 to 2013 (if data for later years is available please supply these also)
the figures for

1 Number of confirmed suicides/open verdicts in the general population
and
2 The number of confirmed suicides/open verdicts among Trust service users

These are figures as provided by NCI.
Please provide these for the area covered by the Trust and also, if possible, for Stockport (it is understood there may be small geographical differences in areas)

Please also supply from 2003 to 2016 the Trusts internal data on suicides, including
Coroner confirmed
Open verdict
Suspected suicides

Please indicate whether data in one is included in data in another or if they are exclusive (so that double counting is avoided)
Please provide data for the Trust as a whole and for Stockport alone

Yours sincerely,

G Davies

penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

Dear Mr Davies

To process this request we need to clarify a few points.

Firstly, would you like information for the whole request in calendar years?

Secondly, you state " These are figures as provided by NCI".

Are you asking if we hold the following information from the NCI for the entire Trust, and for the Stockport area:

"Please supply for each year from 2003 to 2013 (if data for later years is available please supply these also) the figures for
1 Number of confirmed suicides/open verdicts in the general population and
2 The number of confirmed suicides/open verdicts among Trust service users"

You received the report we received from the NCI as part of your internal review. Unless the business area requested further information from the NCI, this information may not be held.

I believe the second part of your request then asks for our internal statistics (i.e. not NCI data).

Should these statistics be limited to mental health services, or would you like us to include any community service patient statistics included?

Next, as explained in our internal review response, NCI only include open verdicts in their statistics when suicide has been considered by the coroner. The statistics would not be comparable without that assessment. With this in mind, would you like us to provide open verdict statistics or open verdict statistics where suicide has been considered by the coroner?

Regarding your last sentence "Please indicate whether data in one is included in data in another or if they are exclusive (so that double counting is avoided)" - is this a request regarding the internal statistics only?

Your request will be put on hold until clarification is received.

Kind regards

Sarah Browne
Senior Information Governance & Risk Officer
Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust
225 Old Street
Ashton-under-Lyne
OL6 7SR

Telephone: 0161 716 3146

Email:t[Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust request email]
Website: www.penninecare.nhs.uk

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Dear penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST),

Firstly, would you like information for the whole request in calendar years?
Yes please

Are you asking if we hold the following information from the NCI for the entire Trust, and for the Stockport area:
Yes for the Trust as a whole and for Stockport, for each year.
I understand you might not hold this data

Should these statistics be limited to mental health services, or would you like us to include any community service patient statistics included?
Mental health service users only

Next, as explained in our internal review response, NCI only include open verdicts in their statistics when suicide has been considered by the coroner. The statistics would not be comparable without that assessment. With this in mind, would you like us to provide open verdict statistics or open verdict statistics where suicide has been considered by the coroner?
open verdict statistics where suicide has been considered by the coroner please

Regarding your last sentence "Please indicate whether data in one is included in data in another or if they are exclusive (so that double counting is avoided)" - is this a request regarding the internal statistics only?
Yes

Yours sincerely,

G Davies

penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

 

 

Dear Mr Davies,

 

FOI ref:  2016/0515

 

Thank you for your request for information dated 21^st April 2016 and
clarified on 21^st  April 2016.

 

We will consider your request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. 
You should receive a response within 20 working days, in this case by
20^th May 2016.

The information you have requested might not be given to you if it is
exempt or contains references to third parties.

 

We will inform you if:

 

·         we are unable to achieve this deadline.  We aim to give you a
revised due date as soon as possible.

·         we are unable to give you the information as responding to your
request exceeds the 'appropriate limit'.  This might apply if it would
take us longer than 18 hours to retrieve, collate and provide the
information you request.

·         we need to transfer your request (in full or part) to another
public authority so we can fully answer your request.

 

If you have any questions about this request, please contact me quoting
the reference number above.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Julie Higginbottom

Information Governance Administrator

 

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne OL6 7SR

 

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penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

Dear Mr Davies

 

FOI ref: 2016/0515

 

Firstly, I have received confirmation that no further data was requested
from the National Confidential Inquiry.  The report we provided in
disclosure 2016/0284 is the sum of the information we have received from
them. 

 

Secondly, I have spoken to the Trust’s Legal team who are responsible for
managing Coroner’s Inquests within the Trust. 

 

As I’m sure you are aware, the Freedom of Information Act (2000)(FOIA)
allows members of the public to request recorded information held by
public authorities.  The team do not hold any recorded information, as
standard, regarding whether a Coroner considered suicide in reaching an
Open verdict.  They would need to search through all their paperwork
regarding each case on the off-chance there is some recorded information
held that states the Coroner considered suicide.  Even then, we cannot
guarantee that the result would be reflective of the reality; the person
making the record will be listening for the Coroner’s conclusion and
rationale to gain an understanding of the learning the Trust need to take
away from the Inquest.  They would not necessarily need to record verdicts
the Coroner has dismissed. 

 

As such, we do not hold recorded information that will be directly
comparable to the data provided by the National Confidential Inquiry.

 

Under the FOIA there is no onus on the requester to explain why they seek
the information they request.  However, I understand it must be very
frustrating to keep making requests and, ultimately, not receive the
information you are seeking or expecting.  And, as I’m sure you
appreciate, these requests are creating demands on our resources.  We
appreciate the public interest in our suicide statistics, but it would be
beneficial to us all if we understood what you are seeking to explore with
the information you request.  Perhaps then we can give you a better
understanding of what information we hold, and the limitations of that
data.  I do reiterate, however, you are under no obligation to tell us why
you seek this information, or what you are looking to explore; I’d simply
like to give you that opportunity in line with our obligations under S.16
of the FOIA to advise and assist requesters.

 

Please advise how you would like us to proceed regarding Open verdicts,
and any further guidance would be appreciated. 

  

Kind regards

 

 

Sarah Browne

Senior Information Governance & Risk Officer

 

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne

OL6 7SR

 

Telephone: 0161 716 3146

 

Email:t[Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust request email]

Website: www.penninecare.nhs.uk

 

 

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Dear penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST),

I'm not asking for anyone to go through Coroners reports recategorising things.

Please just supply what data you have, for years from 2003 to 2016

- Patient suicides, suspected suicides, open verdicts,
- General population suicide statistics

Yours sincerely,

G Davies

penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

Dear Mr Davies

Thank you for clarifying your request.

As we have engaged in some lengthy correspondence regarding this request, to allow ease of interpretation for the business areas gathering the data I have condensed your request as follows:

1. Number of mental health service users , broken down by calendar year and borough, from 2003 to 2016 (to date)

2. Number of suspected suicides regarding mental health service users, broken down by calendar year and borough, from 2003 to 2016 (to date) – ***Please indicate if data from this question is included in Qs 3 and 4 to avoid double counting a service user***

3. Number of “coroner confirmed” suicides regarding mental health service users, broken down by calendar year and borough, from 2003 to 2016 (to date)

4. Number of coroner open verdicts regarding mental health service users, broken down by calendar year and borough, from 2003 to 2016 (to date)

5. Any general population (as opposed to service user) suicide statistics held by the Trust, broken down by calendar year and borough, from 2003 to 2016 (to date)

I hope this will suffice.

Kind regards

Sarah Browne
Senior Information Governance & Risk Officer
Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust
225 Old Street
Ashton-under-Lyne
OL6 7SR

Telephone: 0161 716 3146

Email:t[Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust request email]
Website: www.penninecare.nhs.uk

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Dear penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST),

I understand the Trust keeps data for 'suspected suicides'
You can provide this data.
It is understood that this data includes many of the same people included under 'open verdicts'.

Yours sincerely,

G Davies

penninecare foi (PENNINE CARE NHS FOUNDATION TRUST), Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

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Dear Mr Davies

 

FOI ref: 2016/0754

 

Further to your email below, I can now respond to your request dated
10/06/2016

 

Following receipt of your request, searches were conducted within Pennine
Care NHS Foundation Trust (the Trust) to locate the requested information
and I can confirm that the information requested is held by the Trust.

 

1.    Number of mental health service users , broken down by calendar year
and borough, from 2003 to 2016 (to date)

Please see the attached.  Note, area category “All” refers to the fact a
service user has attended a service that is not borough-specific, i.e. the
service is Trust-wide

 

2.    Number of suspected suicides regarding mental health service users,
broken down by calendar year and borough, from 2003 to 2016 (to date) -
***Please indicate if data from this question is included in Q3 to avoid
double counting a service user***

Please find attached the number of incidents arising from deaths which
have been reported by staff with a cause code of ‘suspected suicide’. This
data includes the 144 suspected suicides that were subsequently “Coroner
confirmed” suicides, referred to in Q3.

Please be aware, staff are requested to report incidents within 24 hours
of the incident occurring , or the incident becoming known to the Trust. 
Therefore staff will often have limited information at the time of
reporting.

 

3.    Number of "coroner confirmed" suicides regarding mental health
service users, broken down by calendar year and borough, from 2003 to 2016
(to date)

Please find the attached figures.  Note that the data pertain to instances
where the Coroner’s conclusions have been made known to the Trust. The
figures relate to those suspected suicide deaths where Coronial
proceedings have concluded with the following verdicts:

•           Suicide

•           Took own life

•           1 x narrative conclusion – ‘… took her own life whilst the
balance of her mind was disturbed’.

 

NB: These figures are included as part of Q2; of the 407 suspected
suicides provided in Q2, 144 (provided in this question) were “Coroner
confirmed”. 

 

4.    Any general population (as opposed to service user) suicide
statistics held by the Trust, broken down by calendar year and borough,
from 2003 to 2016 (to date)

Please find the attached from the National Confidential Inquiry.  The
Trust holds no further information regarding general population suicide
statistics.

 

 

Complaint Rights

 

Your attention is drawn to the details below, which outline your right of
complaint.

 

Should you have any further queries concerning this matter, please email,
write or contact the team on telephone number 0161 716 3147 quoting the
reference number above.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Sarah Browne

Senior Information Governance & Risk Officer

Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust

225 Old Street

Ashton-under-Lyne

OL6 7SR

 

Telephone: 0161 716 3146

 

Email:t[1][Pennine Care NHS Foundation Trust request email]

Website: [2]www.penninecare.nhs.uk

 

 

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