Spy Car

Dave rimmer made this Freedom of Information request to Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council

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Dear Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council,
In view of Eric Pickles statement that he is banning the use of mobile spy cars from the autumn of this year, can you provide me with the following information.

1.If the contract could be cancelled immediately how much would the council save to the end of the contract
2. If the contract could be cancelled from autumn (as per Mr Pickles ban) how much would the authority save or
3. If the contract cannot be cancelled how much will it cost the authority from the ban in autumn to the end of the current contract.
Whilst I understand Mr Pickles did not announce a firm date and just stated autumn of 2014 so let us assume say a ban date of 1st of October

Yours faithfully,

Dave rimmer

ScarletPimpernel left an annotation ()

It relies on legislation to be passed, which is always difficult to predict in advance.

From what I remember Wirral Council do have to publish the total amount they receive in parking fines, I presume things like the running costs of the car would be known to the contractor rather than Wirral Council.

They will still be able to use them for bus lane enforcement and around schools, so it's possible it will just be a case of the "spy car" being moved as to where it operates rather than scrapped completely.

Dave rimmer left an annotation ()

As I understood it, Mr Pickles was not objecting to fixed CCTV for bus lanes, junctions etc but indeed was totally banning the "spy cars" on the grounds that some L/A`s were abusing such equipment and using them as cash cows.
I got the impression he was telling councils to use enforcement officers on the beat to enforce parking restrictions at schools, zig zag crossing etc. I could be wrong in my assumptions but either way its nice to know that HMG has identified an obnoxious piece of gear that some councils have been using to rip off motorists unnecessarily, Wirral Council being one of the culprits

InfoMgr, FinDMT, Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council

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information to answer your queries below.

 

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Dear Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council's curt reply to my FOI request 'Spy Car'.

[ WBC awarded the contract to the contractor who operates the spy car on your behalf so you must have the details of the said contract and therefore must be able to answer my questions.If you are refusing my request on other grounds please state what those grounds are

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/s...

Yours faithfully,

Dave rimmer

john hardaker left an annotation ()

Hi dave suggest you ask the same FOI with NSL parking services who were awarded the contract by wirral council surely they will have the recorded information you require

Corrin, Jane, Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council

Good Afternoon,

With regard to your request for an Internal Review; please see text below
which is Council’s response to your request.

As the reviewing officer I have taken into account the original enquiry,
processed under The Freedom of Information Act 2000 and the reasons the
information was not provided to you.   Your original request asked for
 “….If the contract could be cancelled immediately how much would the
council save to the end of the contract.   If the contract could be
cancelled from autumn (as per Mr Pickles ban) how much would the authority
save or  If the contract cannot be cancelled how much will it cost the
authority from the ban in autumn to the end of the current contract.

Whilst I understand Mr Pickles did not announce a firm date and just
stated autumn of 2014 so let us assume say a ban date of 1st of October”

 

The original response was that the Council had no recorded information to
supply to you.

 

The above original response was a true and factual statement in relation
to your enquiry.  To answer your questions, Council Officers would have to
generate new information which is not already held, at the time of your
enquiry.  There is no obligation on a public body, under the legislation
to generate new recorded information to answer an enquiry.

 

If you remain dissatisfied with this response to your request for an
Internal Review, you have the right to complain to the Information
Commissioner:-

 

Information Commissioner’s Office,

Wycliffe House,

Water Lane,

Wilmslow,

Cheshire SK9 5AF

[1]www.ico.gov.uk

 

Yours Sincerely

Jane Corrin

Information and Central Services Manager

Transformation and Resources

Wirral Council

 

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Dave rimmer left an annotation ()

John, thanks, however as I assume NSL is a private company they are not subject to FOI requests. However the councils response is a total fob off. If I recall the spy cars were not in service when the contract was awarded therefore there must have been a contractual amendment to introduce them which also means WBC must know what the charge is for the spy car service.......so much for openness and transparency. I will speak to my pal who is very well versed on the procedures for putting a case to the ICO. Thanks again

john hardaker left an annotation ()

Hi dave suggest you go onto the Digital spy forum which confirms Wirral Council paid for the car operated by NSL ltd from ratepayers funds.
When the £3.2 million pound contract was renewed in I think 2009 with NSL ltd are the council saying that the contractors take our council tax and do not have to account for it to the ratepayers ?,if so then that is a disgrace,surely NSL Ltd should show the council their revenue figures,number of fines generated to justify their £800.000.00 contract payments