Sold House Price Data 1991

Response to this request is long overdue. By law, under all circumstances, Land Registry should have responded by now (details). You can complain by requesting an internal review.

Dear Land Registry,
Can you possibly provide sold house price data for north west England, for April 1991, thank you

Yours faithfully,

Maria

Sondh, Gurmale, Land Registry

Dear Maria,

Thank you for your email dated 14 August 2012 requesting Price paid data for NW of England for April 1991.

I have considered your request in line with the Freedom of information Act and I can confirm that that Land Registry does not hold the information falling within the description specified in your request. The reason for this is that the procedures, referred to in r.8(2), Land Registration Rules 2003, for entering the price paid or value sated started after 1 April 2000. However, I can advise you that the data you are requesting can be obtained from 1995 onwards from our Add Value Services team.

Section 16 of the Freedom of information Act carries a duty to provide advice and assistance. Therefore, I provide the following Land Registry Web site link that can be useful to make a contact with them. In addition to this I also guide you to Land Registry Practice Guide 7 - Entry of price paid or value stated in the register meant for the professionals. This can be viewed or downloaded from Land Registry main Web site from the same link.

http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/professio...

If you have any queries about this letter, please contact me.

If you are dissatisfied with this response to your request, you may seek an internal review within two months of the date of our reply. Internal reviews will be dealt within 20 working days. If at the end of this time we are unable to respond, we will write to you explaining the reasons and giving you a new date. If you seek an internal review please write to:
Mike Westcott Rudd
Head of Corporate Legal Services
Land Registry Head office
Trafalgar House
1 Bedford Park
Croydon
CR0 2AQ
Email: [email address]

If you are not content with the outcome of the internal review, you have the right to apply directly to the Information Commissioner (ICO) within two months of the reply for a decision. Generally, the ICO cannot make a decision unless you have exhausted the complaints procedure provided by Land Registry. The Information Commissioner can be contacted at: The Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire SK9 5AF.

Yours sincerely,

Freedom of information officer
Corporate Legal Services
HM Land Registry
Croydon Head office

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Dear Sondh, Gurmale,
Thank you for replying. I have my title deeds and conveyance which state the sold price in 1926, then again in 1971, and electronic copies stored at the land registry, i do not understand how sold house prices can not exist from 1991, how are historical graphs of house prices made if this data is not available, also how where the council tax rates assessed in 1991 without any available sold house price data,to base them on, how could inflation rates before 1991 be assessed without any house price data, land has been registered from at least before 1970, how do the council or courts acquire sold house price data from 1991 if it does not exist, thank you

Yours sincerely,

Maria

Sondh, Gurmale, Land Registry

Dear Maria,

Thank you for your email dated 15 August 2012 contents of which are noted. As already explained that Land Registry started to enter the price paid or price stated on the register from 1 April 2000, which can be located easily using the title number of the property in any area without actually going through each and every individual file of the property.

However, any price paid or stated before 1 April 2000 would be recorded on the appropriate documents lodged for registration at that time for example a copy of the transfer or conveyance held in the file of that property or title. If you need to know the price paid or price stated of any individual property before 1 April 2000, this would be available from title files of the properties concerned subject to the information being held (as there can be some transactions where there is no valuable consideration paid).

Please see our Public Guide 1 (A guide to information we hold and how you can obtain it) from our web site at
http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/public/gu...

In addition to this please note that our "Add Value Team" provides similar data from January 1995 onwards and includes figures at national, regional, county and London borough level. More information can be got from the following direct link on our main web site.

http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/professio...

I hope this clarifies the matter but If you have any queries about this matter, please contact me.

Your sincerely,
Freedom of information officer
Corporate Legal Services
HM Land Registry
Croydon Head office

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Dear Sondh, Gurmale,

My house was registered at the land registry in 1971

Yours sincerely,

Maria

Sondh, Gurmale, Land Registry

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Dear Maria,
 
Thank you for your email dated 9 January 2013 contents of which are noted.
Sold house Price data for a property registered in 1971 should be
available subject to the information being recorded from the documents
filed in files at our local offices depending upon where the property is
located. As you have not disclosed the full postal address of your
property nor the title number under which it is registered, it is not
possible to conduct a search for the requested information. However, there
are two ways how you can obtain this information :-
 

 1. If you know the title number of the property and date of the deed(s),
you may complete an application in form OC2 to request a copy (copy
attached for ease of reference), enclosing a fee of £11 and returning
the form to the appropriate District Land Registry.

 
Please see our Public Guide 1 (A guide to information we hold and how you
can obtain it) from our web site at
[1]http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/public/gu... -- 
(Section 2.7 explains in full how you can obtain an official copy of a
document and item 11 Appendix F - Areas served by Land Registry Offices).
 
2) If you don't have a title number and/or date for the deed in question,
you can write to the local Land Registry office that deals with the area
where the land or property lies.
When you contact them, be sure to give as much information as you can
about the land or property you are interested in, including approximate
dates of purchase and sale etc. They will do their best to help, but
please bear in mind that we may not hold this information as explained
above and also note that if the property is not registered, we will not
have the information.
 
I hope this clarifies the matter but If you have any queries about this
matter, please contact me.
 
Yours sincerely,
Freedom of information officer
Corporate Legal Services
HM Land Registry
Croydon Head office
 
 
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Sylvia Rushbrooke left an annotation ()

VOA will not supply proof of point of ref for 1991 prices they also decide what they accept as evidence at the same time as wtholding this information - information that can be used in a review request - evidence they will accpet for a review seems to be not available except with them? it seems their subjective opinion in 1991 based on what substantive evidence is not available - documents were discovered within the government stating erros of council tax banding was well known about and ignored just the same - a catch 22 asking for evidence that is hidden or does not exist or detroyed knowing we cannot produce records of house prices except going back to 1995 if anyone has found proof of 1991 prices that would be accepted by VOA review process please post here - even the local council says they do not know the value of the propertiesthey owned in 1991????? not likely as there would probably be an indication of value of assets on their balance sheet inflated or not - but if they know they will not say and pass you to the VOA seemingly a conspiracy to keep overcharging where they can to fill the coffers they just blame the VOA as they do not do the banding but they also know many are being overcharged but do not care they want our money by hook or crook it seems no morals just money

Sharon left an annotation ()

Hi, I have just successfully reclaimed council tax overpayments and would agree that the information is hard to find. I went to the local library and pulled up house advertisements/for sale and found houses like mine in 1991 that were lower in value - I paid £40,000 and was put in B. I also had to find similar houses in my area that were on band A. Sent it all off and have now been changed and refund being sent. I also sent a copy of the letter on Martin Lewis's website saying that I could do this even though I had been in house for more that 6 mths (bought my house in 1993). Hope that helps.

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