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Martin Walkerdine

Dear Metropolitan Police Service (MPS),

Does The Met still have active files on the following people linked to Operation Stranger & Operation Orchid police investigation into child murders and child abuse and members of the Dirty Dozen

Sidney Charles Cooke
Leonard William Gilhurst Smith
Leslie Patrick Bailey
Robert Oliver
Steven Barrell
Alfred Leslie Goddard
Roy Alan Morris
John Thornton
Walter Ballantyne
Brian Turner
and others

Also was Sidney Charles Cooke investigated by Operation Midland or Operation Fairbank

Yours faithfully,

Martin Walkerdine

Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr Walkerdine

Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2016060000374

I write in connection with your request for information which was received
by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 08/06/2016.  I note you seek
access to the following information:

"Does The Met still have active files on the following people linked to
Operation Stranger & Operation Orchid police investigation into child
murders and child abuse and members of the Dirty Dozen

Sidney Charles Cooke
Leonard William Gilhurst Smith
Leslie Patrick Bailey
Robert Oliver
Steven Barrell
Alfred Leslie Goddard
Roy Alan Morris
John Thornton
Walter Ballantyne
Brian Turner
and others

Also was Sidney Charles Cooke investigated by Operation Midland or
Operation Fairbank"

Your request will now be considered in accordance with the Freedom of
Information Act 2000 (the Act).  You will receive a response within the
statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined by the Act.  

If you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please contact
us at [email address] or on the phone at 0207 161 3500, quoting the
reference number above. Should your enquiry relate to the logging or
allocations process we will be able to assist you directly and where your
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will be able to pass on a message and/or advise you of the relevant
contact details.

Yours sincerely

R. Loizou
Support Officer - Freedom of Information Triage Team
 
COMPLAINT RIGHTS

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You have the right to require the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) to
review their decision.

Prior to lodging a formal complaint you are welcome to discuss the
response with the case officer who dealt with your request.  

Complaint

If you are dissatisfied with the handling procedures or the decision of
the MPS made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act) regarding
access to information you can lodge a complaint with the MPS to have the
decision reviewed.

Complaints should be made in writing, within forty (40) working days from
the date of the refusal notice, and addressed to:

FOI Complaint
Information Rights Unit
PO Box 57192
London
SW6 1SF
[email address]

In all possible circumstances the MPS will aim to respond to your
complaint within 20 working days.

The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with the MPS if you are still dissatisfied with
the decision you may make application to the Information Commissioner for
a decision on whether the request for information has been dealt with in
accordance with the requirements of the Act.

For information on how to make application to the Information Commissioner
please visit their website at www.ico.org.uk.  Alternatively, write to or
phone:

Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone: 0303 123 1113

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Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr Walkerdine

Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2016060000374

I respond in connection with your request for information which was
received by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 08/06/2016.  I note
you seek access to the following information:

Does The Met still have active files on the following people linked to
Operation Stranger & Operation Orchid police investigation into child
murders and child abuse and members of the Dirty Dozen Sidney Charles
Cooke Leonard William Gilhurst Smith Leslie Patrick Bailey Robert Oliver
Steven Barrell Alfred Leslie Goddard Roy Alan Morris John Thornton Walter
Ballantyne Brian Turner and others

Also was Sidney Charles Cooke investigated by Operation Midland or
Operation Fairbank .

DECISION
In accordance with the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act)  this
response represents a Refusal Notice for this particular request under
Section 17(4).  
REASONS FOR DECISION

Section 1 of the Act places two duties on public authorities.  Unless
exemptions apply, the first duty at Section 1(1)(a) is to confirm or deny
whether the information specified in a request is held.  The second duty
at Section 1(1)(b) is to disclose information that has been confirmed as
being held.  Where exemptions are relied upon Section 17 of the Act
requires that we provide the applicant with a notice which: a) states that
fact b) specifies the exemption(s) in question and c) states (if that
would not otherwise be apparent) why the exemption applies.

The MPS can neither confirm nor deny that it holds information pertinent
to this request as the duty in Section 1(1)(a) of the Act does not apply,
by virtue of the following exemption:
Section 30(3) Investigations
Please see the Legal Annex for the sections of the Act that are referred
to in this response.

This should not be taken as conclusive evidence that any information that
would meet your request exists or does not exist.
Section 30(3) Investigations
A public authority can only apply section 30(3) if the requested
information - if it were held - would fall within the scope of the section
30 exemption. If the requested information is held, the relevant
subsection would be section 30(1)(a)(i) and (ii). This concerns
information that is held at any time for the purposes of any investigation
which the public authority has a duty to conduct with a view to it being
ascertained whether a person should be charged with an offence, or whether
a person charged with an offence is guilty of it. ICO Guidance states
that, "The phrase "at any time" means that information is exempt under
section 30(1) if it relates to an ongoing, closed or abandoned
investigation. It extends to information that has been obtained prior to
an investigation commencing, if it is subsequently used for this purpose."
 

Section 30 is a class based qualified exemption and consideration must be
given as to whether there is a public interest in neither confirming nor
denying the information exists is the appropriate response.

Factors favouring complying with Section 1(1)(a) confirming that
information is held
Confirming or denying that information exists relevant to this request
would lead to a better informed public improving their knowledge and
understanding of how the MPS investigate cases of homicide and unsolved
homicides, believed carried out by serial killers.  There is plenty of
information in the public domain regarding Sidney Charles Cooke Leonard
William Gilhurst Smith Leslie Patrick Bailey Robert Oliver Steven Barrell
Alfred Leslie Goddard Roy Alan Morris John Thornton Walter Ballantyne
Brian Turner.
The public have a right to expect transparency and accountability in
relation to the use of public funds. By confirming or denying the
information you requested the public will be informed of investigations
that public funds are spent on.   There is a public interest in the
transparency of policing operations and providing assurance that the MPS
is appropriately and effectively dealing with crime.

Factors against complying with Section 1(1)(a) confirming or denying that
information is held
By its very nature, information held relating to investigations is
sensitive in nature.  Under the Act there is a requirement to comply with
Section 1(1)(a) and confirm what information is held.  In some cases it is
that confirmation, or not, which could disclose facts harmful to  policing
and in such cases the MPS takes advantage of its ability under the FOI
legislation, to, where appropriate, neither confirm or deny that the
information requested, is or is not held.  The MPS will never disclose
information which could identify investigative activity and therefore
undermine their investigations.  To do so would hinder the prevention or
detection of crime.  To confirm or deny that the MPS have active files,
would be to infer that the MPS are investigating or not investigating
cases related to Sidney Charles Cooke Leonard William Gilhurst Smith
Leslie Patrick Bailey Robert Oliver Steven Barrell Alfred Leslie Goddard
Roy Alan Morris John Thornton Walter Ballantyne Brian Turner. This may be
harmful to any investigations which could be unsolved at this time.

Confirmation that MPS have active files would prejudice how investigations
are carried out in the future by revealing investigative activity.  This
would hinder the prevention and detection of crime and affect the MPS's
law enforcement capabilities.  Confirmation would also undermine the
partnership approach to investigations
The MPS is charged with enforcing the law, preventing and detecting crime
and protecting the communities we serve.  The MPS will not divulge whether
information is or is not held regarding active files if to do so would
adversely affect these important roles.
The MPS has to be mindful of future or ongoing investigations which may be
occurring on suspects who are living.  Irrespective of what information is
or isn't held, it would be solely held for the purposes of investigating a
crime.  There is a risk that confirming or denying whether the information
that you requested is held would hinder any future investigative process.
An investigation would be undermined significantly if information was
disclosed which enabled criminals to discover whether they are under
suspicion, and if so, to gain an indication of the extent of those
suspicions.  For example, if information was held and this was revealed it
would give a premature warning to those responsible for the crime,
potentially allowing them to take steps to disrupt the investigation
before it is complete.  If information was not held, and this was
revealed, it would reassure those responsible for potential crimes that
their activities and methods had not been uncovered, which would encourage
them in the use of those methods.    As either confirming or denying
whether the requested information is held would disrupt any investigative
process, it is not in the public interest to do so.

Balance test
If it exists, the disclosure of this information to the public by the MPS
would undermine the integrity of police investigations and operations and
in maintaining confidence in the MPS.  
However, this should not be taken as necessarily indicating that any
information relating to active files that would meet your request does or
does not exist.

COMPLAINT RIGHTS
Your attention is drawn to the attached sheet which details your right of
complaint.

Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please
contact me on 020 7161 1566 or via email at [email address],
quoting the reference number above.
Yours sincerely,
Paul Mayger
Information Manager
Freedom of Information
Information Rights Unit (IRU)
Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)
PO Box 57192
London
SW6 1SF
LEGAL ANNEX

Section 17(4) of the Act provides:

(4) A public authority is not obliged to make a statement under subsection
(1)(c) or (3) if, or to the extent that, the statement would involve the
disclosure of information which would itself be exempt information.

Section 30(3) of the Act provides:

Investigations and proceedings conducted by public authorities
(3)The duty to confirm or deny does not arise in relation to information
which is (or if it were held by the public authority would be) exempt
information by virtue of subsection (1) or (2).
COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Are you unhappy with how your request has been handled or do you think the
decision is incorrect?

You have the right to require the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) to
review their decision.

Prior to lodging a formal complaint you are welcome to discuss the
response with the case officer who dealt with your request.  

Complaint

If you are dissatisfied with the handling procedures or the decision of
the MPS made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act) regarding
access to information you can lodge a complaint with the MPS to have the
decision reviewed.

Complaints should be made in writing, within forty (40) working days from
the date of the refusal notice, and addressed to:

FOI Complaint
Information Rights Unit
PO Box 57192
London
SW6 1SF
[email address]

In all possible circumstances the MPS will aim to respond to your
complaint within 20 working days.

The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with the MPS if you are still dissatisfied with
the decision you may make application to the Information Commissioner for
a decision on whether the request for information has been dealt with in
accordance with the requirements of the Act.

For information on how to make application to the Information Commissioner
please visit their website at www.ico.org.uk.  Alternatively, write to or
phone:

Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone:  0303 123 1113

Total Policing is the Met's commitment to be on the streets and in your
communities to catch offenders, prevent crime and support victims. We are
here for London, working with you to make our capital safer.

 

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legal liabilities, you must not distribute or copy the information in this
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monitored to the extent permitted by law.  Consequently, any email and/or
attachments may be read by monitoring staff. Only specified personnel are
authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the MPS by
email. The MPS accepts no responsibility for unauthorised agreements
reached with other employees or agents.  The security of this email and
any attachments cannot be guaranteed. Email messages are routinely scanned
but malicious software infection and corruption of content can still occur
during transmission over the Internet. Any views or opinions expressed in
this communication are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
represent those of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS).

 

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Dear Metropolitan Police Service (MPS),

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)'s handling of my FOI request 'Sidney Cooke and The Dirty Dozen'.

[ GIVE DETAILS ABOUT YOUR COMPLAINT HERE ]

I am seeking a review on my FOI request as it's in the public interest to know if the Met police does have active police files on the people list and if these people have been questioned by the Met under any current police Operations dealing with historical child sex abuse and those who have died like Lennie Smith , Leslie Bailey the Met police surely can exposed what info it has on these people as they are no longer alive to complain as Lennie Smith died in 2006 in Hampshire while Leslie Bailey was murdered inside HMP Whitemoor in Cambridgeshire and Alfred Leslie Goddard is another suspect who is dead.

I hoping you seen sense and provide me with these details concerning these people criminal records and any of them been questioned by the Met Police or any other police force as you would be aware if another police force have questioned them via the HOLMES 2 database as that would have them details and it wouldn't be hard of you to access that intel on The Met computers using the same HOLMES 2 system on your computers

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/s...

Yours faithfully,

Martin Walkerdine

Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr Walkerdine

Freedom of Information Review Reference No: 2016120000507

I write in connection with your request for a review of the handling
and/or decision relating to  2016060000374 which was received by the
Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on  11/12/2016.  

A review will now be conducted in accordance with the Code of Practice
issued under Section 45 of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act).
 The reviewing officer will reconsider the original request before
responding to you with their findings.

There is no statutory time limit in relation to the completion of an
Internal Review.  However, the MPS aim to complete Internal Reviews within
20 working days or in exceptional cases, within 40 working days.  This is
based upon guidance published by the Information Commissioner.

If it is not possible to complete the Internal Review within this
timescale you will be informed at the earliest opportunity.

If you are unhappy with the outcome of an Internal Review you may wish to
refer the matter to the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO).

For information on how to make an application to the Information
Commissioner please visit their website at www.ico.org.uk.  Alternatively,
write to or phone:

Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone:  0303 123 1113

Yours sincerely

R. Loizou
Support Officer - Freedom of Information Triage Team

Total Policing is the Met's commitment to be on the streets and in your
communities to catch offenders, prevent crime and support victims. We are
here for London, working with you to make our capital safer.

 

Consider our environment - please do not print this email unless
absolutely necessary.

NOTICE - This email and any attachments may be confidential, subject to
copyright and/or legal privilege and are intended solely for the use of
the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please
notify the sender and delete it from your system.  To avoid incurring
legal liabilities, you must not distribute or copy the information in this
email without the permission of the sender. MPS communication systems are
monitored to the extent permitted by law.  Consequently, any email and/or
attachments may be read by monitoring staff. Only specified personnel are
authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the MPS by
email. The MPS accepts no responsibility for unauthorised agreements
reached with other employees or agents.  The security of this email and
any attachments cannot be guaranteed. Email messages are routinely scanned
but malicious software infection and corruption of content can still occur
during transmission over the Internet. Any views or opinions expressed in
this communication are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
represent those of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS).

 

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Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

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Dear Mr Walkerdine

Freedom of Information Review Reference No: 2016120000507

Please find attached the MPS response to your request for an internal
review in relation to your FoIA request for information regarding files
held in relation to named individuals (ref: 2016060000374).

Yours sincerely

Brian Wilson
Information Law Advisor

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monitored to the extent permitted by law.  Consequently, any email and/or
attachments may be read by monitoring staff. Only specified personnel are
authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the MPS by
email. The MPS accepts no responsibility for unauthorised agreements
reached with other employees or agents.  The security of this email and
any attachments cannot be guaranteed. Email messages are routinely scanned
but malicious software infection and corruption of content can still occur
during transmission over the Internet. Any views or opinions expressed in
this communication are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
represent those of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS).

 

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