Security Industry Authority Licencing of Sheffield City Council’s Directors and Members

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Dear Sheffield City Council,

1. Please can you confirm how many members of Sheffield City Council staff are required to have a licence from the Security Industry Authority (SIA) as they are undertaking licensable activities covered by the Private Security Industry Act 2001?
These will normally included CCTV operators, but may include other staff, such as your City City Ambassadors.

2. How does the Council comply with the SIA’s guidance for “Non Frontline Licencing” of
Supervisors, Managers and Directors of these staff (reproduced below):

https://www.sia.homeoffice.gov.uk/Pages/...

“A non-front line SIA licence is required for those who manage, supervise and/or employ individuals who engage in licensable activity, as long as front line activity is not carried out. In a local authority, this means that every member of the local authority (i.e. each elected councillor, including the chair and any elected mayor) must be licensed whenever the local authority’s employees are carrying out licensable activities.
An alternative for local authorities who do not want to get licences for all of their members is to use a trading company to provide security services. Creating a joint venture involving third-party ownership, that is structured in such a way that this company does not constitute a subsidiary, would remove the need for all members to get non-front line licences. However, the directors of this trading company (including any members who acted as directors) would still be required to get non-frontline licences. Local authorities will need to get their own legal advice on whether this alternative is appropriate for them and how they might undertake it.
Please be advised that if a local authority uses a wholly owned subsidiary as a trading company for the provision of security services under contract, then non-frontline licences will still be required for all of the local authority’s members.”

2a. If a trading company/ companies are used what is the company(ies) name and registration numbers?

2b. If trading companies are not wholly owned by the Council, do all Members of the Council hold SIA licenses (this can be checked of the public register of licensing holders on the SIA website)?

2c. If trading companies are used how are the structured so that they do not constitute a “subsidiary” company.

3. Do Staff / Members who require SIA licences required to pay for their own licenses, or does the Council pay for them?

4. How much for each of the last five years has the Council paid to the SIA?

Yours faithfully,

Martin Jones

FOI, Sheffield City Council

Dear Martin Jones,
 
Thank you for your recent request for information relating to Security
Industry Authority Licensing which we received on 16/12/2019.
 
This has been logged as a Freedom of Information Request, and will be
dealt with under the Freedom of Information Act.  The reference number for
your request can be found above.
 
The Freedom of Information Act states that we must respond to you within
20 working days, therefore, you should expect to hear a response from us
by 06/01/2020.
 
In the meantime, if you have any queries please, contact us at the email
address below.
 
Thank you.
 
Yours sincerely,
 
Sheffield City Council
PO Box 1283
Sheffield, S1 1UJ
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From: Martin Jones [[2]mailto:[FOI #627633 email]]
Sent: 14 December 2019 11:18
To: FOI
Subject: Freedom of Information request - Security Industry Authority
Licencing of Sheffield City Council’s Directors and Members
 
Dear Sheffield City Council,
 
1.      Please can you confirm how many members of Sheffield City Council
staff are required to have a licence from the Security Industry Authority
(SIA) as they are undertaking licensable activities covered by the Private
Security Industry Act 2001?
These will normally included CCTV operators, but may include other staff,
such as your City City Ambassadors.
 
2.      How does the Council comply with the SIA’s guidance for “Non
Frontline Licencing” of
Supervisors, Managers and Directors of these staff (reproduced below):
 
[3]https://www.sia.homeoffice.gov.uk/Pages/...
 
“A non-front line SIA licence is required for those who manage, supervise
and/or employ individuals who engage in licensable activity, as long as
front line activity is not carried out. In a local authority, this means
that every member of the local authority (i.e. each elected councillor,
including the chair and any elected mayor) must be licensed whenever the
local authority’s employees are carrying out licensable activities.
An alternative for local authorities who do not want to get licences for
all of their members is to use a trading company to provide security
services. Creating a joint venture involving third-party ownership, that
is structured in such a way that this company does not constitute a
subsidiary, would remove the need for all members to get non-front line
licences. However, the directors of this trading company (including any
members who acted as directors) would still be required to get
non-frontline licences. Local authorities will need to get their own legal
advice on whether this alternative is appropriate for them and how they
might undertake it.
Please be advised that if a local authority uses a wholly owned subsidiary
as a trading company for the provision of security services under
contract, then non-frontline licences will still be required for all of
the local authority’s members.”
 
2a.     If a trading company/ companies are used what is the company(ies)
name and registration numbers?
 
2b.     If trading companies are not wholly owned by the Council, do all
Members of the Council hold SIA licenses (this can be checked of the
public register of licensing holders on the SIA website)?
 
2c.     If trading companies are used how are the structured so that they
do not constitute a “subsidiary” company.
 
3.      Do Staff / Members who require SIA licences required to pay for
their own licenses, or does the Council pay for them?
 
4.      How much for each of the last five years has the Council paid to
the SIA?
 
Yours faithfully,
 
Martin Jones
 
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FOI, Sheffield City Council

Dear Martin Jones,
 
Thank you for your recent request for information relating to Security
Industry Authority Licensing which we received on 16/12/2019.
 
Please find below, Sheffield City Council’s response to your request:
 
1. Please can you confirm how many members of Sheffield City Council staff
are required to have a licence from the Security Industry Authority (SIA)
as they are undertaking licensable activities covered by the Private
Security Industry Act 2001? These will normally include CCTV operators,
but may include other staff, such as your City Centre Ambassadors.
 
There are 11 monitoring centre staff, 1 Monitoring Centre Assistant
Manager, 1 Monitoring Centre Manager & Single Point Of Contact (SPOC), 1
Business crime officer, 1 Head of Service & Senior Responsible Officer, 17
City Centre Ambassadors,  2 City Centre Ambassador Supervisors and 1 City
Centre Resources Manager.
 
We also license a further 16 officers involved in CCTV public space
surveillance, which in accordance to the Private Security Industry Act
2001 may not be necessary as the officers are City Council employees and
are not private individuals nor provide contracted services. 
 
2. How does the Council comply with the SIA’s guidance for “Non Frontline
Licencing” of Supervisors, Managers and Directors of these staff
(reproduced below):
 
[1]https://www.sia.homeoffice.gov.uk/Pages/...
 
“A non-front line SIA licence is required for those who manage, supervise
and/or employ individuals who engage in licensable activity, as long as
front line activity is not carried out. In a local authority, this means
that every member of the local authority (i.e. each elected councillor,
including the chair and any elected mayor) must be licensed whenever the
local authority’s employees are carrying out licensable activities.
 
An alternative for local authorities who do not want to get licences for
all of their members is to use a trading company to provide security
services. Creating a joint venture involving third-party ownership, that
is structured in such a way that this company does not constitute a
subsidiary, would remove the need for all members to get non-front line
licences. However, the directors of this trading company (including any
members who acted as directors) would still be required to get
non-frontline licences. Local authorities will need to get their own legal
advice on whether this alternative is appropriate for them and how they
might undertake it.
Please be advised that if a local authority uses a wholly owned subsidiary
as a trading company for the provision of security services under
contract, then non-frontline licences will still be required for all of
the local authority’s members.”
 
The City Council has decided that it is appropriate to have the Senior
Responsible Officer (SRO), all relevant direct reports and front line
staff accredited.
  
2a. If a trading company/ companies are used what is the company(ies) name
and registration numbers?
 
A trading company is not used
 
2b. If trading companies are not wholly owned by the Council, do all
Members of the Council hold SIA licenses (this can be checked of the
public register of licensing holders on the SIA website)?
 
The City Council does not have a trading company.
 
2c. If trading companies are used how are the structured so that they do
not constitute a “subsidiary” company.
 
N/a
 
3. Do Staff / Members who require SIA licences required to pay for their
own licenses, or does the Council pay for them?
 
SCC covers the cost
 
4.How much for each of the last five years has the Council paid to the
SIA?
 
2015:    Service outsourced so no payments, service was then insourced
2016:    £2,860
2017:   £2,640
2018:   £2,520
2019:   £2,520
 
If you have any queries about this response, please do not hesitate to
contact us.
 
If you are unhappy with the response you have received in relation to your
request, you are entitled to have this reviewed.  You can ask for an
internal review by either writing to the above address or by emailing
[2][Sheffield City Council request email].  Internal review requests should be submitted
within 40 working days from the date of this response.
 
If you remain dissatisfied with the outcome of your internal review, you
can contact the Information Commissioners Office. The Information
Commissioner can be contacted at: The Information Commissioner's Office,
Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF, telephone 0303
123 1113, or for further details see their website [3]www.ico.org.uk
 
Kind Regards,
 
Sheffield City Council
PO Box 1283
Sheffield, S1 1UJ
Email: [4][Sheffield City Council request email]
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From: Martin Jones [[5]mailto:[FOI #627633 email]]
Sent: 14 December 2019 11:18
To: FOI
Subject: Freedom of Information request - Security Industry Authority
Licencing of Sheffield City Council’s Directors and Members
 
 
Dear Sheffield City Council,
 
1.      Please can you confirm how many members of Sheffield City Council
staff are required to have a licence from the Security Industry Authority
(SIA) as they are undertaking licensable activities covered by the Private
Security Industry Act 2001?
These will normally included CCTV operators, but may include other staff,
such as your City City Ambassadors.
 
2.      How does the Council comply with the SIA’s guidance for “Non
Frontline Licencing” of
Supervisors, Managers and Directors of these staff (reproduced below):
 
[6]https://www.sia.homeoffice.gov.uk/Pages/...
 
“A non-front line SIA licence is required for those who manage, supervise
and/or employ individuals who engage in licensable activity, as long as
front line activity is not carried out. In a local authority, this means
that every member of the local authority (i.e. each elected councillor,
including the chair and any elected mayor) must be licensed whenever the
local authority’s employees are carrying out licensable activities.
An alternative for local authorities who do not want to get licences for
all of their members is to use a trading company to provide security
services. Creating a joint venture involving third-party ownership, that
is structured in such a way that this company does not constitute a
subsidiary, would remove the need for all members to get non-front line
licences. However, the directors of this trading company (including any
members who acted as directors) would still be required to get
non-frontline licences. Local authorities will need to get their own legal
advice on whether this alternative is appropriate for them and how they
might undertake it.
Please be advised that if a local authority uses a wholly owned subsidiary
as a trading company for the provision of security services under
contract, then non-frontline licences will still be required for all of
the local authority’s members.”
 
2a.     If a trading company/ companies are used what is the company(ies)
name and registration numbers?
 
2b.     If trading companies are not wholly owned by the Council, do all
Members of the Council hold SIA licenses (this can be checked of the
public register of licensing holders on the SIA website)?
 
2c.     If trading companies are used how are the structured so that they
do not constitute a “subsidiary” company.
 
3.      Do Staff / Members who require SIA licences required to pay for
their own licenses, or does the Council pay for them?
 
4.      How much for each of the last five years has the Council paid to
the SIA?
 
Yours faithfully,
 
Martin Jones
 
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