Scottish Crown Office Circular

Angie Nickson made this Freedom of Information request to Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal (Scotland)

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Dear Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal (Scotland),

Under the FOIs Act please could you send me a copy of Crown Office Circular No.2025 on the 28th November 1991 and subsequent amended set of directions was issued, Crown Office Circular No 2025/1 on the 20th December 1991.

I believe both are referred to in the so called Magic Circle Affair Report which was I think about homosexuality, perversion of justice and a sex abuse web in the Scottish Establishment to which I provide a link here.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0NRqCqy...

If you have any difficulty with the link or need further clarification please contact me.

Please could you send me a copy of what the Magic Circle Affair Report calls the Orr Report

Yours faithfully,

Angie Nickson

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Dear Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal (Scotland),

The request re Scottish Crown Circulars is overdue, which obviously looks very bad for the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal (Scotland) Please could I receive a reply within the next 2 days or I will have to start an internal review.

Yours faithfully,

Angie Nickson

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Dear FOI Enquiries,

I presume that last reply was automated though it did not say so. You will have 24 hours to reply before internal review if this is read on Tuesday morning

Yours sincerely,

Angie Nickson

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Dear Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal (Scotland),

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal (Scotland)'s handling of my FOI request 'Scottish Crown Office Circular'.

In response to my email of 10th Feb I received this response on the 11 February 2014 BUT to the request that I withdrew headed Crown Office Directives 2025, 2025/1. This was withdrawn as you seemed to be having trouble with the fact that I called them circulars and you were claiming that you needed clarification.

"Dear Ms Nickson
Thank you for your email of 10 February 2014.
We have a record of a freedom of information request from you made on 7 November 2013. We sent you a number of emails seeking clarification on this matter, following which our records indicate that you withdrew the request. I attach your email for your ease of reference.
Kind Regards
FOI Enquiries
Crown Office"

However I replaced that with another email later the same day entitled "Scottish Crown Office Circular" the 13 December of which this is a copy, so that you could have pretext for not being able to find the information.

13 December 2013

Dear Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal (Scotland),

Under the FOIs Act please could you send me a copy of Crown Office Circular No.2025 on the 28th November 1991 and subsequent amended set of directions was issued, Crown Office Circular No 2025/1 on
the 20th December 1991.

I believe both are referred to in the so called Magic Circle Affair Report which was I think about homosexuality, perversion of justice and a sex abuse web in the Scottish Establishment to which I
provide a link here.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0NRqCqy...

If you have any difficulty with the link or need further clarification please contact me.

Please could you send me a copy of what the Magic Circle Affair Report calls the Orr Report

Yours faithfully,

Angie Nickson"

Please therefore carry out an internal review into the time delay, and please do not delay in providing the information I requested, without waiting for the internal review

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/s...

Yours faithfully,

Angie Nickson

FOI Enquiries, Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal (Scotland)

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FOI Enquiries, Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal (Scotland)

Dear Ms Nickson

Thank you for your e-mail dated 11 February. I regret that your e-mail dated 13 December was not picked up as a new request at the time. We are now attending to this matter and your request for review and aim to provide you with a full response by 13 March."

With regard to the subject matter, I do remember this - but I think I was on maternity leave at the time and therefore not directly involved in the Private Office. There was a secure cabinet in the basement which contained the papers - but I'm pretty sure they have been destroyed now. I wonder if Scottish Govt might hold anything?

Library, Private Office and Crown Agent's office are the best hopes for finding anything on this.

Carol

Mrs C McDivitt
Business Manager, Response & Information Unit
Policy Division
Crown Office
Edinburgh

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Dear FOI Enquiries,

Thank you for your reply Carol and some information on the subject matter
I am unsure if you are looking for this information or whether that was my response.
Does the Crown Office hold the information?
You mention the Library, Private Office and Crown Agent's office, are they separate bodies for FOI requests, or are they connected to the Crown Office and you contacting these for me? If they are separate bodies for FOI could you send me their email contact.

The original amended request was started on 13th December.

Yours sincerely,

Angie Nickson

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Dear Angie

Thank you for your e-mail. I am sorry that some internal communications were included in the acknowledgement which was issued to you on my behalf.

Please be assured that I am currently looking into your FOI request to see if we still hold any information within COPFS. You do not require to write to any other part of this organisation.

Carol
Mrs C McDivitt
Business Manager, Response & Information Unit
Policy Division
Crown Office
Edinburgh

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Dear Ms Nickson

I refer to previous correspondence. I am writing to let you know that your request for information is still under active consideration. I am sorry that we are not yet in a position to reply but will do so as soon as possible.

Yours sincerely

FOI Enquires
Crown Office & Procurator Fiscal Service

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Dear FOI Enquiries,

Thank you for the information. However I must ask what Section of the Law you are requesting more time.
You will realise that it is now 3 months since the revised request and even more since the original.

Yours sincerely,

Angie Nickson

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Dear Carol
Mrs C McDivitt
Business Manager, Response & Information Unit
Policy Division
Crown Office
Edinburgh

I have still not received my answer to the legal reason for the delay, nor have I received the Internal Review.
The Crown office are breaking the law. If this is not the case, please tell me.
I trust I shall receive without delay the original information requested, the Internal Review and the legal reason for the delay under the FOI Acts.

Yours sincerely,

Angie Nickson

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Dear FOI Enquiries,

I am still awaiting my long overdue replies

Yours sincerely,

Angie Nickson

FOI Enquiries, Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal (Scotland)

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Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service

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Dear Ms Nickson

I refer to your emails dated 13 December 2013 and 11 February 2014 and now attach a copy of the reply with attachment for your information.

Yours sincerely

FOI Enquiries
Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service

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Dear FOI Enquiries,

I am grateful for your reply.

I accept for now the premise that the FOI Act gives a right to information not documents.

However the complete information is not present in the copy of the Nimmo Smith Report.

I would therefore ask for a copy of all the information on the Circulars.

Further I would ask if there is any reason why the Crown Office does not wish to provide the Circulars themselves, particularly as the precise wording of the circulars is of the essence in this case?

Yours sincerely,

Angie Nickson

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Dear Ms Nickson

I refer to your e-mail dated 25 April and now attach our response.

Yours sincerely

FOI Enquiries
Crown Office & Procurator Fiscal Service

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Dear FOI Enquiries,

I am not asking for an internal review. I am asking for advice and assistance under Section 15
However please state exactly in the law or ICO guidance which states that there may not be an internal review on timeliness and then one on the substantive request?

I may have missed it but cannot see where you have answered whether you have copies of the circulars?

Further I would ask if there is any reason why the Crown Office does not provide the Circulars themselves, particularly as the precise wording of the circulars is of the essence in this case?

Yours sincerely,

Angie Nickson

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FOI Enquiries, Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal (Scotland)

Dear Ms Nickson

Thank you for your further e-mail dated 28 May. Our position is set out in our responses of 14 April and 14 May and we have nothing to add to the terms of those letters.

Yours sincerely

FOI Enquiries
Crown Office & Procurator Fiscal Service

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