Sainsbury's plastic bag charges

Jt Oakley made this Freedom of Information request to National Assembly for Wales

This request has been closed to new correspondence from the public body. Contact us if you think it ought be re-opened.

The request was successful.

Dear Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru / National Assembly for Wales,

On its Internet shopping site, Sainsbury's supermarket makes a compulsory charge for four plastic bags - as it is the 'Welsh law' that this compulsory charge should be made.

Customers are given no choice as to whether to purchase plastic bags, as they are in shops. And grocery delivery purchases cannot be made without this compulsory level.

I asked Sainsbury's why it's company was quoting 'Welsh law' as a reason for this compulsory levy.

Sainsbury's stated:

'We therefore continue to use bags for our online delivery and do not currently give our customers the option to opt out of this.

As you know, all single use carrier bags given out are subject to a 5p charge, in line with Welsh Carrier Bag Legislation. We have agreed a standard 40p charge with the Officers of the Welsh Assembly, based on the average number of bags used in a delivery'.

I would like to read all the files concerning this compulsory standard charge and any correspondence in the subject of charges for plastic bags between Sainsbury's and the Welsh Government.

http://www.carrierbagchargewales.gov.uk/...

As, having read the above law, it would seem to give the customer the right to chose if they purchase plastic bags, or not.

Therefore, if Sainsbury's have been making this compulsory charge erroneously and should repay their customers unless the Welsh Government 'officials' have made a specific new law on compulsory and unwanted charges on Internet grocery purchases, as Sainsbury states,

Yours faithfully,

Jt Oakley

Assembly.Info,

Annwyl Jt Oakley,

Diolch am eich e-bost. Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru yw’r corff sy’n cael ei ethol yn ddemocrataidd i gynrychioli buddiannau Cymru a’i phobl, i ddeddfu ar gyfer Cymru ac i ddwyn Llywodraeth Cymru i gyfrif.

Mae Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru a Llywodraeth Cymru yn sefydliadau ar wahân, ac mae ganddynt rôl wahanol.

Gan mai Llywodraeth Cymru, sef y Llywodraeth ddatganoledig sy’n llunio polisïau a deddfau ar gyfer Cymru, sy’n gyfrifol am y mater rydych yn gwneud sylw amdano, dylech anfon eich e-bost ymlaen at y Llywodraeth i’w ateb.
Mae Llywodraeth Cymru, sy’n cael ei harwain gan Brif Weinidog Cymru, yn gyfrifol am feysydd fel iechyd, addysg, iaith a diwylliant, a gwasanaethau cyhoeddus. Gallwch ddod o hyd i ragor o wybodaeth am y pwnc rydych yn gwneud sylw amdano drwy glicio ar y linc a ganlyn i wefan Llywodraeth Cymru:

Gallwch ddod o hyd i wybodaeth am sut i gysylltu â Llywodraeth Cymru drwy ddefnyddio’r linc i’w gwefan (www.cymru.gov.uk) isod:
http://cymru.gov.uk/contact_us/?lang=cy

Yn gywir,

Gareth

Dear Jt Oakley
,
Thank you for your e-mail. The National Assembly for Wales is the democratically elected body that represents the interests of Wales and its people, makes laws for Wales and holds the Welsh government to account.

The National Assembly for Wales and the Welsh Government are separate institutions which have different roles.

Because the matter you are commenting about is the responsibility of the Welsh Government, the devolved government which makes policies and laws for Wales, your e mail should be forwarded to them for a response.
Headed by the First Minister of Wales, the Welsh Government is responsible for areas such as health, education, language and culture and public services. You may find further information about the subject of your enquiry on the following link to the Welsh Government’s web site:

Contact information for the Welsh Government can be found on the link to their web site (www.wales.gov.uk) below:
http://wales.gov.uk/contact_us/?lang=en

Yours sincerely,

Gareth

Gareth Jones

Gwybodaeth i’r Cyhoedd
Public Information

Cyswllt Cyntaf y Cynulliad
Assembly Front of House

Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru
National Assembly for Wales

T: 0845 010 5500 / 01492 523 200

www.cynulliadcymru.org
www.assemblywales.org

Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru yw’r corff sy'n cael ei ethol yn ddemocrataidd i gynrychioli buddiannau Cymru a’i phobl, i ddeddfu ar gyfer Cymru ac i ddwyn llywodraeth Cymru i gyfrif.

The National Assembly for Wales is the democratically elected body that represents the interests of Wales and its people, makes laws for Wales and holds the Welsh government to account.

Croesewir gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg neu Saesneg.
We welcome correspondence in Welsh or English.

Dylid ystyried unrhyw ddatganiad neu sylw a geir yn y neges hon fel un personol ac nid o reidrwydd yn fynegiant o safbwynt Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru, unrhyw ran ohono neu unrhyw gorff cysylltiedig

Any of the statements or comments made above should be regarded as personal and not necessarily those of the National Assembly for Wales, any constituent part or connected body.

Cadwch mewn cysylltiad â’r Cynulliad ar:

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Dear Assembly.Info,

Please reply only via this address.

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

Dear Assembly.Info,

For clarification

I am asking for the file on record that Sainsbury's outlines below...that allows it to states line that it is making this charge because of Welsh law - although no other supermarket delivery company seems to be following the same Welsh law.

Or has made a special agreement with Welsh Assembly officials.

The Company states:

We have agreed a standard 40p charge with the Officers of the Welsh Assembly, based on the average number of bags used in a delivery.

:::::

Which WA office made the Sainsbury's standard charge of the 40p per delivery decision described by Sainsbury's below.

Because, if Sainsbury's is being truthful, then this file must exist.

Therefore please check and see if one exists - because the alternative is that Sainsbury's is mistaken, there has been no special agreement.

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From Sainsbury's

Our reference: 1-310633089/SK

We take our environmental responsibilities very seriously and in line with the Welsh Government’s drive to reduce the number of single use carrier bags in circulation, we trialled a number of bagless delivery solutions. During these trials, as my colleague previously mentioned, we found that these other options resulted in a larger carbon footprint overall. We therefore continue to use bags for our online delivery and do not currently give our customers the option to opt out of this.

As you know, all single use carrier bags given out are subject to a 5p charge, in line with Welsh Carrier Bag Legislation. We have agreed a standard 40p charge with the Officers of the Welsh Assembly, based on the average number of bags used in a delivery. This charge is a requirement under our current delivery model, as we are legally unable to cover this cost ourselves, and provide the bags for free.

Whilst we do not provide customers with the option to choose the number of bags used, or opt out of using them at the moment, our online team are fully aware of our environmental responsibilities and work hard to deliver the best solution possible.

Yours sincerely

Rachel Collins
Manager, Executive Office

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

Assembly.Info,

Annwyl Jt Oakley,

Diolch am eich e-bost am gais Rhyddid Gwybodaeth.
Ers y gwahanu ffurfiol ym mis Mai 2007, mae Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru, y corff deddfwriaethol, wedi gweithredu fel endid cyfreithiol ar wahân i Lywodraeth Cymru. Nid oes gan Gynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru'r wybodaeth y gofynnwch amdano ond efallai fod gan Lywodraeth Cymru'r wybodaeth honno. Byddai angen ichi gysylltu â Llywodraeth Cymru er mwyn iddi ystyried eich cais. Rhowch wybod os hoffech imi drosglwyddo eich cais i’w ystyried gan Lywodraeth Cymru, a byddaf yn gwneud hynny.
Os byddai’n well gennych gyflwyno eich cais am wybodaeth i Lywodraeth Cymru eich hun, mae’r wybodaeth gyswllt berthnasol ar gael ar wefan Llywodraeth Cymru yn:
http://wales.gov.uk/about/foi/?skip=1&am...
Yn gywir,

Gareth

Dear Jt Oakley,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding a Freedom of Information request.
You may be aware that since formal separation in May 2007, the National Assembly for Wales, the legislative body, operates as a separate legal entity to the Welsh Government. The information you have requested is not held by the National Assembly for Wales but may be held by the Welsh Government and you would need to make an approach to the Welsh Government for them to consider your request. Please let me know if you would like me to transfer your request to the Welsh Government for consideration and I will do so.
If you would prefer to submit your information request to the Welsh Government yourself the relevant contact information can be found on the link to the Welsh Government’s web site below:
http://wales.gov.uk/about/foi/?skip=1&am...
Yours sincerely,

Gareth

Gareth Jones

Gwybodaeth i’r Cyhoedd
Public Information

Cyswllt Cyntaf y Cynulliad
Assembly Front of House

Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru
National Assembly for Wales

T: 0845 010 5500 / 01492 523 200

www.cynulliadcymru.org
www.assemblywales.org

Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru yw’r corff sy'n cael ei ethol yn ddemocrataidd i gynrychioli buddiannau Cymru a’i phobl, i ddeddfu ar gyfer Cymru ac i ddwyn llywodraeth Cymru i gyfrif.

The National Assembly for Wales is the democratically elected body that represents the interests of Wales and its people, makes laws for Wales and holds the Welsh government to account.

Croesewir gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg neu Saesneg.
We welcome correspondence in Welsh or English.

Dylid ystyried unrhyw ddatganiad neu sylw a geir yn y neges hon fel un personol ac nid o reidrwydd yn fynegiant o safbwynt Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru, unrhyw ran ohono neu unrhyw gorff cysylltiedig

Any of the statements or comments made above should be regarded as personal and not necessarily those of the National Assembly for Wales, any constituent part or connected body.

Cadwch mewn cysylltiad â’r Cynulliad ar:

Engage with the Assembly on:
   

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Assembly.Info,

Annwyl Jt Oakley,

Diolch am eich e-bost am gais Rhyddid Gwybodaeth.
Ers y gwahanu ffurfiol ym mis Mai 2007, mae Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru, y corff deddfwriaethol, wedi gweithredu fel endid cyfreithiol ar wahân i Lywodraeth Cymru. Nid oes gan Gynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru'r wybodaeth y gofynnwch amdano ond efallai fod gan Lywodraeth Cymru'r wybodaeth honno. Byddai angen ichi gysylltu â Llywodraeth Cymru er mwyn iddi ystyried eich cais. Rhowch wybod os hoffech imi drosglwyddo eich cais i’w ystyried gan Lywodraeth Cymru, a byddaf yn gwneud hynny.
Os byddai’n well gennych gyflwyno eich cais am wybodaeth i Lywodraeth Cymru eich hun, mae’r wybodaeth gyswllt berthnasol ar gael ar wefan Llywodraeth Cymru yn:
http://wales.gov.uk/about/foi/?skip=1&am...
Yn gywir,
Gareth

Dear Jt Oakley,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding a Freedom of Information request.
You may be aware that since formal separation in May 2007, the National Assembly for Wales, the legislative body, operates as a separate legal entity to the Welsh Government. The information you have requested is not held by the National Assembly for Wales but may be held by the Welsh Government and you would need to make an approach to the Welsh Government for them to consider your request. Please let me know if you would like me to transfer your request to the Welsh Government for consideration and I will do so.
If you would prefer to submit your information request to the Welsh Government yourself the relevant contact information can be found on the link to the Welsh Government’s web site below:
http://wales.gov.uk/about/foi/?skip=1&am...
Yours sincerely,

Gareth

Gareth Jones

Gwybodaeth i’r Cyhoedd
Public Information

Cyswllt Cyntaf y Cynulliad
Assembly Front of House

Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru
National Assembly for Wales

T: 0845 010 5500 / 01492 523 200

www.cynulliadcymru.org
www.assemblywales.org

Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru yw’r corff sy'n cael ei ethol yn ddemocrataidd i gynrychioli buddiannau Cymru a’i phobl, i ddeddfu ar gyfer Cymru ac i ddwyn llywodraeth Cymru i gyfrif.

The National Assembly for Wales is the democratically elected body that represents the interests of Wales and its people, makes laws for Wales and holds the Welsh government to account.

Croesewir gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg neu Saesneg.
We welcome correspondence in Welsh or English.

Dylid ystyried unrhyw ddatganiad neu sylw a geir yn y neges hon fel un personol ac nid o reidrwydd yn fynegiant o safbwynt Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru, unrhyw ran ohono neu unrhyw gorff cysylltiedig

Any of the statements or comments made above should be regarded as personal and not necessarily those of the National Assembly for Wales, any constituent part or connected body.

Cadwch mewn cysylltiad â’r Cynulliad ar:

Engage with the Assembly on:
   

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Dear Assembly.Info,

Thank you.

But I already have approached the Welsh Government.

The Welsh Government states:

'it is an entirely devolved matter in Wales and therefore not a matter for the UK government'

Presumably it's therefore back to you.

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

Dear Assembly.Info,

I trust that you are already reviewing this request - since you state that no Welsh Assembly officials were involved, which contradicts what Sainsbury has stated , I would like you to check all the files for mention of Sainsbury's and plastic bags charges,

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

Assembly.Info,

Dear Jt Oakley,
Thank you for your e-mail. The National Assembly for Wales is the democratically elected body that represents the interests of Wales and its people, makes laws for Wales and holds the Welsh government to account.

The National Assembly for Wales and the Welsh Government are separate institutions which have different roles.

The single use carrier bag policy is the responsibility of the Welsh Government, the devolved government which makes policies and laws for Wales, your e mail should be forwarded to the Welsh Government for a response.
Headed by the First Minister of Wales, the Welsh Government is responsible for areas such as health, education, language and culture and public services. You will find further information about single use carrier bags regulations the following link to the Welsh Government’s web site:
http://wales.gov.uk/topics/environmentco...

The Welsh Government has developed a voluntary agreement on where the net proceeds will go, please see the link to the Welsh Government's web site -
http://www.carrierbagchargewales.gov.uk/...

Contact information for the Welsh Government can be found on the link to their web site (www.wales.gov.uk ) below:
http://wales.gov.uk/contact_us/?lang=en

Yours sincerely,
Sian

Sian Lloyd

Gwybodaeth i’r Cyhoedd
Public Information

Cyswllt Cyntaf y Cynulliad
Assembly Front of House

Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru
National Assembly for Wales

T: 0845 010 5500 / 01492 523 200

www.cynulliadcymru.org
www.assemblywales.org

Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru yw’r corff sy'n cael ei ethol yn ddemocrataidd i gynrychioli buddiannau Cymru a’i phobl, i ddeddfu ar gyfer Cymru ac i ddwyn llywodraeth Cymru i gyfrif.

The National Assembly for Wales is the democratically elected body that represents the interests of Wales and its people, makes laws for Wales and holds the Welsh government to account.

Croesewir gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg neu Saesneg.
We welcome correspondence in Welsh or English.

Dylid ystyried unrhyw ddatganiad neu sylw a geir yn y neges hon fel un personol ac nid o reidrwydd yn fynegiant o safbwynt Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru, unrhyw ran ohono neu unrhyw gorff cysylltiedig

Any of the statements or comments made above should be regarded as personal and not necessarily those of the National Assembly for Wales, any constituent part or connected body.

   

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Dear Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru / National Assembly for Wales,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru / National Assembly for Wales's handling of my FOI request 'Sainsbury's plastic bag charges'.

Dear Assembly.Info,

Thank you ....but this is an FoI request.

I am not seeking information on the law. Or the Welsg Giveenments part in this.

I would, once again, draw your attention to the statement made by Sainsbury's:

'We have agreed a standard 40p charge with the Officers of the Welsh
Assembly, based on the average number of bags used in a delivery'

Could you please nite that It is specific that it refers to the Welsh Assembly.

Either this meeting took place and there are files to support it, or Sainsbury's is mistaken.

If there are files available, please provide them.

If the meeting never took place, please confirm that there are no files available.

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/s...

Assembly.Info,

Dear Jt Oakley,
Thank you for your e mail which has been passed on to the Strategic Programme and Internal Control team.
Yours sincerely,
Sian

Sian Lloyd

Gwybodaeth i’r Cyhoedd
Public Information

Cyswllt Cyntaf y Cynulliad
Assembly Front of House

T: 0845 010 5500 / 01492 523 200

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Saer, Buddug (Assembly – Governance & Audit),

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    YML FW ATB RE Plastic bags Sainsbury s FoI request..html

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Good morning [title redacted] Oakley,

On the 9th of July, you agreed for me to pass this request on to the Welsh Government - the attached email confirms this.

Your email on the 15th of August requests an internal review, but the review can only be done by the public authority who originally responded to the request. Therefore, this email should be directed to the Welsh Government. With your permission, I can transfer this to them or you could email them directly -
[email address]

Please let me know which you would prefer.

Regards

Buddug

Swyddog Rhyddid Gwybodaeth a Chymorth Prosiect
Freedom of Information and Project Support

T:  029 2089 8635

-----Neges Wreiddiol/Original Message-----
From: Assembly.Info
Sent: 15 August 2014 09:29
To: Saer, Buddug (Assembly – Governance & Audit); Thomas, Jonathan (Assembly – Governance & Audit); Houghton, John (Assembly - Governance and Audit)
Subject: FW: Internal review of Freedom of Information request - Sainsbury's plastic bag charges

Dear Jonathan and John,
I'm passing this e mail on to you as Buddug is away at the moment.
We have had a couple of e mails from this person regarding the Sainsburys plastic bag charges: we have referred him to the Welsh Government's FoI officer as this is a Welsh Government issue.
In my most recent email e mail I have sent him links as below

"The National Assembly for Wales and the Welsh Government are separate institutions which have different roles.

The single use carrier bag policy is the responsibility of the Welsh Government, the devolved government which makes policies and laws for Wales, your e mail should be forwarded to the Welsh Government for a response.
Headed by the First Minister of Wales, the Welsh Government is responsible for areas such as health, education, language and culture and public services. You will find further information about single use carrier bags regulations the following link to the Welsh Government’s web site:
http://wales.gov.uk/topics/environmentco...

The Welsh Government has developed a voluntary agreement on where the net proceeds will go, please see the link to the Welsh Government's web site - http://www.carrierbagchargewales.gov.uk/...

Contact information for the Welsh Government can be found on the link to their web site (www.wales.gov.uk ) below:
http://wales.gov.uk/contact_us/?lang=en "

The correspondent is not happy with our response and has asked for a review of the NAfW's handling of his FoI request in his most recent e mail. Are you able to respond to them please?

Thank you,

Sian

Sian Lloyd

Gwybodaeth i’r Cyhoedd
Public Information

Cyswllt Cyntaf y Cynulliad
Assembly Front of House

T: 01492 523 205

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Dear Saer, Buddug (Assembly – Governance & Audit),

Please reply only to this address.

You intimated that Assembly officials were not involved by referring me to the a Welsh Government and yet the request was about the actions of Welsh Assembly officials coming to a special agreement for one supermarket- Sainsbury's -to level compulsory charges for 8 carrier bags, on all its Internet customers.

Therefore either you misinformed me that no files about on this agreement with Sainsbury's existed ....or Sainsbury's is mistaken in that Welsh Assembly officials did not make such an agreement with this company.

Please do not attempt to foist this request concerning 'Welsh Assembly Officials' to the Welsh Government yet again - as the Welsh Government has already been efficient and very helpful in comparison.....providing me with both the relevant law and guidance.

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

For your information:
Dear Ms JTOakley

Thank you for your e-mail.

The Freedom of Information request that you refer to on the What Do They Know website has been made to the National Assembly for Wales and not the Welsh Government. The National Assembly for Wales is a legislative body and operates as a separate legal entity to the Welsh Government.

Kind regards,

Helen Davies
PA i Gretel Leeb/PA for Gretel Leeb
Pennaeth Is-Adran Pobl ac Amgylchedd/Head of People and Environment Division

Saer, Buddug (Assembly – Governance and Audit),

Dear [title redacted] Oakley,

We can only perform an internal review when we have supplied you with a response.

Sainsbury's might have simply used the wrong terminology and people often use Welsh Assembly Government and the National Assembly without knowing that we are completely separate organisations.

In an email exchange between yourself and the Research Service, I notice that you make reference to:
'When questioned, Sainsbury states that Welsh Government officials...'

Welsh Government officials work for the Welsh Government and not the National Assembly for Wales which is why I directed your original request to
[email address]

Please let me know if you would like any further information.

Regards

Buddug

Regards

Buddug

Buddug Saer

Swyddog Rhyddid Gwybodaeth a Chymorth Prosiect
Freedom of Information and Project Support

T:  029 2089 8635

-----Neges Wreiddiol/Original Message-----
From: Jt Oakley [mailto:[FOI #219571 email]]
Sent: 19 August 2014 12:19
To: Saer, Buddug (Assembly – Governance & Audit)
Subject: Internal review of Freedom of Information request - Sainsbury's plastic bag charges

Dear Saer, Buddug (Assembly – Governance & Audit),

Please reply only to this address.

You intimated that Assembly officials were not involved by referring me to the a Welsh Government and yet the request was about the actions of Welsh Assembly officials coming to a special agreement for one supermarket- Sainsbury's -to level compulsory charges for 8 carrier bags, on all its Internet customers.

Therefore either you misinformed me that no files about on this agreement with Sainsbury's existed ....or Sainsbury's is mistaken in that Welsh Assembly officials did not make such an agreement with this company.

Please do not attempt to foist this request concerning 'Welsh Assembly Officials' to the Welsh Government yet again - as the Welsh Government has already been efficient and very helpful in comparison.....providing me with both the relevant law and guidance.

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

For your information:
Dear Ms JTOakley

Thank you for your e-mail.

The Freedom of Information request that you refer to on the What Do They Know website has been made to the National Assembly for Wales and not the Welsh Government. The National Assembly for Wales is a legislative body and operates as a separate legal entity to the Welsh Government.

Kind regards,

Helen Davies
PA i Gretel Leeb/PA for Gretel Leeb
Pennaeth Is-Adran Pobl ac Amgylchedd/Head of People and Environment Division

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The request is to the Welsh Assembly

Once again, Please take the trouble to read the request and reply to it.

The review of a non-response is requested.

I am requesting a review on the grounds that there hasn't been a response to my request on whether any files exist between Sainsbury's and the Welsh Assembly officials - as specified by Sainsbury's.

If you have no intention of answering the request, please state so - and I will forward it to the ICO on the grounds on a non- response.

Please only respond via this address and stop using my private email address.

Dear Ms TO

We can only perform an internal review when we have supplied you with a response.

Sainsbury's might have simply used the wrong terminology and people often use Welsh Assembly Government and the National Assembly without knowing that we are completely separate organisations.

On the 9th of July, I passed your original request onto the Welsh Government, did they provide you with a response to your request?

Regards

Buddug

Buddug Saer

Swyddog Rhyddid Gwybodaeth a Chymorth Prosiect
Freedom of Information and Project Support

T: 029 2089 8635

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

Saer, Buddug (Assembly – Governance and Audit),

Dear [title redacted] Oakley,

Please could you supply me with the original request?

Regards

Buddug

Buddug Saer

Swyddog Rhyddid Gwybodaeth a Chymorth Prosiect
Freedom of Information and Project Support

T:  029 2089 8635

-----Neges Wreiddiol/Original Message-----
From: Jt Oakley [mailto:[FOI #219571 email]]
Sent: 21 August 2014 13:23
To: Saer, Buddug (Assembly – Governance and Audit)
Subject: Re: ATB/RE: Internal review of Freedom of Information request - Sainsbury's plastic bag charges

The request is to the Welsh Assembly

Once again, Please take the trouble to read the request and reply to it.

The review of a non-response is requested.

I am requesting a review on the grounds that there hasn't been a response to my request on whether any files exist between Sainsbury's and the Welsh Assembly officials - as specified by Sainsbury's.

If you have no intention of answering the request, please state so - and I will forward it to the ICO on the grounds on a non- response.

Please only respond via this address and stop using my private email address.

Dear Ms TO

We can only perform an internal review when we have supplied you with a response.

Sainsbury's might have simply used the wrong terminology and people often use Welsh Assembly Government and the National Assembly without knowing that we are completely separate organisations.

On the 9th of July, I passed your original request onto the Welsh Government, did they provide you with a response to your request?

Regards

Buddug

Buddug Saer

Swyddog Rhyddid Gwybodaeth a Chymorth Prosiect Freedom of Information and Project Support

T: 029 2089 8635

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

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Dear Saer, Buddug (Assembly – Governance and Audit),

You stated that you had received the request on July 9 and you have subsequently exceeded the 20 day limit for replying.

I have asked for a review of this non-compliance. You state that this is not possible.

Please either answer the request immediately, or I will refer it as non-compliance to the ICO.

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

Dear Saer, Buddug (Assembly – Governance and Audit),

Please note: The request I made separately to the Welsh Government- via my private email address - has been answered separately .....and competently.

The Welsh Government has provided a response 21st July 2014 - and completed its review on 14th August 2014.

Please do likewise.

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

Saer, Buddug (Assembly – Governance and Audit),

Dear Ms Oakely.

We hold no information that relates to your request.

For further information about the carrier bag charge scheme is available on the Welsh Government "Carrier Bag Charge Wales" website here: http://www.carrierbagchargewales.gov.uk/...

This website includes the following contact details should you have any further questions:

Address:

Local Environment Quality
Welsh Government
Cathays Park
Cardiff
CF10 3NQ

Email: [email address]

https://carrierbagcharge.wales.gov.uk/co...

Regards

Buddug

Buddug Saer

Swyddog Rhyddid Gwybodaeth a Chymorth Prosiect
Freedom of Information and Project Support

T:  029 2089 8635

-----Neges Wreiddiol/Original Message-----
From: Jt Oakley [mailto:[FOI #219571 email]]
Sent: 22 August 2014 07:26
To: Saer, Buddug (Assembly – Governance and Audit)
Subject: Re: ATB/RE: ATB/RE: Internal review of Freedom of Information request - Sainsbury's plastic bag charges

Dear Saer, Buddug (Assembly – Governance and Audit),

Please note: The request I made separately to the Welsh Government- via my private email address - has been answered separately .....and competently.

The Welsh Government has provided a response 21st July 2014 - and completed its review on 14th August 2014.

Please do likewise.

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

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Dear Saer, Buddug (Assembly – Governance and Audit),

Thank you.

That proves that Sainsbury's was mistaken in stating that Welsh Assembly officials had supported this 8- bag /40p charge that Sainsbury's makes compulsory for it's Internet customers.....many of whom are unable to get to the shops themselves - through illness or disablement.

And anyone who orders already plastic -wrapped goods and does not wish to add to the Welsh plastic bag usage, since Sainsbury's delivery persons already deliver goods in takeaway plastic boxes - as the other supermarkets do.

Yours sincerely,

Jt Oakley

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Update:

The result of the request is that Sainsbury is still the only supermarket to add compulsory plastic bags to Internet customer's orders, so continuing to help to put Welsh wildlife at risk.

But Sainsbury's has agreed to put the plastic bag charge upfront, instead if adding it on - after customers have calculated their orders.

Meanwhile Sainsbury's market share and share price is dropping.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsb...

Nb: Welsh Government:

The company had not received any special instructions to add plastic bags to its orders.

It transpired that Sainsbury's had consulted Swansea Trading Standards and not the Welsh government for instruction - as it stated.

But the Welsh Assembly and Welsh Office still seem confused as to which body does what, and why.

So it may be best that requester's send requests to both bodies simultaneously, to find out which organisation is responsible for answering their request.

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Sainsbury's gave in when England was charged for plastic bags.

The English simply wouldn't stand for bring charged for bags they didn't want and hadn't ordered on the false premise that they had .....and Sainsbury's had to collect the money for adding to the unwanted pile of plastic bags.

Now on the Sainsbury site:

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Why do you charge me for carrier bags?

We are obliged by law to charge for the use of carrier bags. We apply a 40p charge to all orders that use carrier bags and the proceeds are distributed to local good causes.

This is a compulsory fee that will be automatically added to your basket for deliveries on or after 5 October 2015, should you choose to receive your groceries in plastic bags. This charge will appear in your online trolley and on the receipt you receive with your shopping.

We now offer the option for you to choose whether you would like to have your order delivered with or without carrier bag. If you select not to receive bags you will not be charged the 40p carrier bag charge. You can select whether to have your order delivered with or without carrier bags on the checkout page.

Our aim has always been to reduce the number of carrier bags used by our customers, reflecting the environmental objectives set out in this legislation. We believe that our 5p reusable bags are the most effective way to do this, as they are made of recycled material and are recyclable, and we will replace them free of charge if they become damaged. We will also donate any profits we make from these reusable bags to good causes. We do however, still provide single use carrier bags for online orders should a customer request their shopping be bagged.