Road accident data for Heol Ddu & Wern Ddu, Ammanford

Daniel Morris made this Freedom of Information request to Carmarthenshire Council

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Dear Carmarthenshire Council,

Please provide all recorded details that the Council holds for road traffic accidents along Wern Ddu and Heol Ddu in Ammanford.

I would hope such information would include at least the date/time of the incident and the location of accident. Ideally I'd like a breakdown of the number and type of vehicles involved(bus, car, skip lorry, van, heavy goods vehicle, motor bike etc), number of pedestrians, number of cyclists, number of horse-riders, number and species of animals (dog, horse, goat etc) as well as a summary of damage to property. If the Council records a cause for the accident (driving impaired by alcohol or drugs, ice on road etc) then please also provide this.

Yours faithfully,

D Morris

FOIA, Carmarthenshire Council

Dear Mr. Morris

 

Further to your requests for information received on the 9^th May, 2018,
would you please be able to clarify what timeframe your requests relate
to.  The data is not gathered by the County Council it is gathered by the
Police who report their findings to us using a reporting template set out
by statute.

 

Once we have received clarification from yourself, we will be able to
proceed with your request.

 

Yours sincerely

 

John Tillman
Swyddog Gwybodaeth a Diogelu Data

Tîm Llywodraethu Gwybodaeth a Chwynion
Adran y Prif Weithredwr
Cyngor Sir Gaerfyrddin

 

Information & Data Protection Officer

Information Governance & Complaints Team
Chief Executive's Department
Carmarthenshire County Council

 

Mewnol/Internal: 4127
Allanol/External: 01267 224127

 

 

 

Dear Mr Tillman,

Thanks for explaining the capture process. Please can you provide the data from 2010 for each of the requests.

Yours sincerely,

D Morris

FOIA, Carmarthenshire Council

Dear Mr Morris,

Thank you for your request for information, which was received on 9^th
May, 2018, and is being dealt with under the Freedom of Information Act
2000.

We are therefore required to provide a response within 20 working days,
which will be on or before 7^th June, 2018.

If we require clarification we will also contact you as soon as we can –
please note that the timescale for response specified above may be subject
to change if this is the case.

In the meantime, please do not hesitate to contact me should you have any
queries, remembering to quote the reference number above in any
communications.

Yours sincerely

 

John Tillman
Swyddog Gwybodaeth a Diogelu Data

Adfywio a Pholisi

Adran y Prif Weithredwr

Cyngor Sir Gaerfyrddin

 

Information & Data Protection Officer

Regeneration & Policy

Chief Executive’s Department

Carmarthenshire County Council

 

Mewnol/Internal: 4127
Allanol/External: 01267 224127

 

 

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FOIA, Carmarthenshire Council

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Dear Mr. Morris,

 

Thank you for your request for information, which was received on 9^th
May, 2018 and has been dealt with under the Freedom of Information Act
2000.

 

The specific information you requested was as follows:

 

Please provide all recorded details that the Council holds for road
traffic accidents along Wern Ddu and Heol Ddu in Ammanford.

 

Please provide all recorded details that the Council holds for road
traffic accidents along Heol Tir Y Coed Glanaman and its continuation as
Mountain Road to the junction with Wern Ddu, Ammanford.

 

Please provide all recorded details that the Council holds for road
traffic accidents along Nantyglyn Rd, Heol Aman, & Tabernacle Rd,
Glanaman.

 

In response, please find attached the relevant information held by the
Council.

 

You may also find of interest a link to this website where you can also do
your own search:

 

[1]http://www.crashmap.co.uk/

 

 

Yours sincerely

 

John Tillman
Swyddog Gwybodaeth a Diogelu Data

Tîm Llywodraethu Gwybodaeth a Chwynion
Adran y Prif Weithredwr
Cyngor Sir Gaerfyrddin

 

Information & Data Protection Officer

Information Governance & Complaints Team
Chief Executive's Department
Carmarthenshire County Council

 

Mewnol/Internal: 4127
Allanol/External: 01267 224127

 

 

References

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1. http://www.crashmap.co.uk/

Dear Carmarthenshire Council,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Carmarthenshire Council's handling of my FOI request 'Road accident data for Heol Ddu & Wern Ddu, Ammanford'.

I appreciate Mr Tillman's helpful release of information and the link to the CrashMap site.

Unfortunately the data that you have provided seems incomplete. Three incidents on a short stretch of Heol Ddu spring immediately to mind, which are not captured in the data that you've provided:

(1)
The couple that brought down the 11KV overhead line near Pant-Y-Bryn. They crashed into the 10.5m post, shearing it, and required Western Power Distribution's emergency response team to make the line safe in the dead of night. This accident occured in the early hours of Friday/Saturday morning in 2015, obviously causing power cuts along Heol Ddu.

The following link to Google Map's Streetview should help you identify the location:

https://goo.gl/maps/dhHcG1we3AD2

The original post pictured (2011), with the unmissable "Danger of Death" sign, is also where the Council Planning officer (Andrew Francis) nailed the planning application E/28634 to. He also failed to "look up and look out" and didn't notice that the post carried 11KV and was/is dangerously close to the planned/installed turbine.

Subsequently the post had to be replaced with the Andrew Francis Memorial Post, bringing further disruption, and cost.

This incident would of course have been a material planning concern for the retrospective application E/32334 after Tim Pullen's contractors smashed a huge chunk of hedgerow out and put in an unplanned access, so your Highways team may have a record. It is thought that the driver was distracted by the inappropriately located turbine, I'd hope that the accident could confirm/disprove this.

(2)
4/5 underage youths crashed an untaxed and unroadworthy car a few summers ago. They were unable to slow the vehicle as it came down the hill as the brakes were worn out, finally crashing into the ditch at the foot of the steepest part of the hill. To frustrate the Police they locked the vehicle and fled the scene. Officers arranged to recover the vehicle later, which had to lifted as it was embedded and on its side.

The approximate location was in the deep ditch here:
https://goo.gl/maps/KtFkvnuBXcT21

(3)
Drunk driver who crashed into a lampost near Glasfryn and blocked the road, moments before I approached the area on the school run. You can read the sentencing report here:

http://www.southwalesguardian.co.uk/news...

Given that these three significant collisions are missing from the date you've release, I have to doubt that the rest of the reports are complete. Please can you check?

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

Yours faithfully,

D Morris

Robert Edgecombe, Carmarthenshire Council

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Dear Mr Morris,

Please find enclosed the Council's review decision in this case

Yours sincerely
Robert Edgecombe

Daniel Morris left an annotation ()

After a promising start the review demonstrated a considerable semantic gap - "The Police do not provide the Council with details of any road traffic incidents which do not involve personal injury." The data recorded/held is claimed to be accurate but has already been filtered by the Police to a narrower definition of an "accident" than a lay person would perhaps expect.