River House 2012-10-01 incident

The request was partially successful.

Dear Metropolitan Police Service (MPS),

On the night of 2012-10-01, a disturbance occurred at the River House facility operated by the South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust. Assistance from the Metropolitan Police was first requested at 22:44 and the first police officer from Bromley Police Station arrived promptly at 22:47.

Can you please send me the number of police officers who attended this incident, their rank, the unit they were from (Bromley, TSG, etc.), and the time of their arrival at and departure from the incident, as well as any other document held by the MPS related to this incident,

Yours faithfully,

David Mery

Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr. Mery

Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2013090002774
I write in connection with your request for information which was received
by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 28/09/2013.  I note you seek
access to the following information:

"On the night of 2012-10-01, a disturbance occurred at the River House
facility operated by the South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust.
Assistance from the Metropolitan Police was first requested at 22:44 and
the first police officer from Bromley Police Station arrived promptly at
22:47.

Can you please send me the number of police officers who attended this
incident, their rank, the unit they were from (Bromley, TSG, etc.), and
the time of their arrival at and departure from the incident, as well as
any other document held by the MPS related to this incident"

Your request will now be considered in accordance with the Freedom of
Information Act 2000 (the Act).  You will receive a response within the
statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined by the Act, subject to
the information not being exempt or containing a reference to a third
party.  In some circumstances the MPS may be unable to achieve this
deadline.  If this is likely you will be informed and given a revised
time-scale at the earliest opportunity.

Some requests may also require either full or partial transference to
another public authority in order to answer your query in the fullest
possible way. Again, you will be informed if this is the case.

COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Your attention is drawn to the attached sheet, which details your right of
complaint.

Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please
contact us quoting the reference number above.

Yours sincerely

R. Loizou
Administration Team Officer
COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Are you unhappy with how your request has been handled or do you think the
decision is incorrect?

You have the right to require the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) to
review their decision.

Prior to lodging a formal complaint you are welcome to discuss the
response with the case officer who dealt with your request.  

Complaint

If you are dissatisfied with the handling procedures or the decision of
the MPS made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act) regarding
access to information you can lodge a complaint with the MPS to have the
decision reviewed.

Complaints should be made in writing, within forty (40) working days from
the date of the refusal notice, and addressed to:

FOI Complaint
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PO Box 57192
London
SW6 1SF
[email address]

In all possible circumstances the MPS will aim to respond to your
complaint within 20 working days.
The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with the MPS if you are still dissatisfied with
the decision you may make application to the Information Commissioner for
a decision on whether the request for information has been dealt with in
accordance with the requirements of the Act.

For information on how to make application to the Information Commissioner
please visit their website at www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk.
 Alternatively, phone or write to:

Information Commissioner's Office
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Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone:  01625 545 700

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Dear Metropolitan Police Service (MPS),

You are now in breach of the FoIA as your response is overdue.

Yours faithfully,

David Mery

Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr. Mery,
 
Thank you for your e-mail.
 
Your e-mail has been forwarded to the case worker for her attention. 
 
Apologies for the delay and for the inconvenience caused.
 
With kind regards,
 
R. Loizou
 
 

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Dear Ms Loizou,

Thank you for your apology, however it does not excuse the lack of response. Eight working days later, the case worker has still not responded.

Can you please reply asap when the case worker assigned to this request will provide a response, otherwise I will unfortunately have to go once more with the MPS through the internal review process and then to the ICO if this request remains ignored, wasting time and effort for everyone involved.

Yours faithfully,

David Mery

Dear Metropolitan Police Service (MPS),

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)'s handling of my FOI request 'River House 2012-10-01 incident'.

Please provide a substantive response to my FoI request as well as a full explanation of the repeated breaches of the FoIA by not responding within the prescribed delay.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

Yours faithfully,

David Mery

Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr Mery

Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2013110001522

I write in connection with your request for a review of the original MPS
decision relating to 2013090002774 which was received by the Metropolitan
Police Service (MPS) on 13/11/2013.  

Your request for a review will now be considered in accordance with the
Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act).  You will receive a response to
your request for a review of the original MPS case within a timescale of
20 working days.  In some circumstances the MPS may be unable to achieve
this deadline.  If this is likely you will be informed and given a revised
time-scale at the earliest opportunity.

COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Your attention is drawn to the attached sheet, which details your right of
complaint.

Yours sincerely

R. Loizou
Administration Team Officer
COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Are you unhappy with how your request has been handled or do you think the
decision is incorrect?

You have the right to require the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) to
review their decision.

Prior to lodging a formal complaint you are welcome to discuss the
response with the case officer who dealt with your request.  

Complaint

If you are dissatisfied with the handling procedures or the decision of
the MPS made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act) regarding
access to information you can lodge a complaint with the MPS to have the
decision reviewed.

Complaints should be made in writing, within forty (40) working days from
the date of the refusal notice, and addressed to:

FOI Complaint
Public Access Office
PO Box 57192
London
SW6 1SF
[email address]

In all possible circumstances the MPS will aim to respond to your
complaint within 20 working days.
The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with the MPS if you are still dissatisfied with
the decision you may make application to the Information Commissioner for
a decision on whether the request for information has been dealt with in
accordance with the requirements of the Act.

For information on how to make application to the Information Commissioner
please visit their website at www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk.
 Alternatively, phone or write to:

Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone:  01625 545 700

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communities to catch offenders, prevent crime and support victims. We are
here for London, working with you to make our capital safer.

 

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monitored to the extent permitted by law.  Consequently, any email and/or
attachments may be read by monitoring staff. Only specified personnel are
authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the MPS by
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any attachments cannot be guaranteed. Email messages are routinely scanned
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Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Case reference: 2013110001522

 From: Narinder Minhas/mps
 Date: 14/11/2013 15:21:06
 To: [FOI #179013 email]
 bcc: [email address]
 Subject: Complaints Procedure Incorrect

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Dear Ms Minhas,

Thank you very much for your review and apology. I do appreciate your hope to reassure me that the MPS takes compliance with the Act very seriously, however I had too many experiences of delayed responses from the MPS that I remain to be convinced that the MPS 'is working hard to promote good practice in regard to the processing of requests'. Only a change of experience will reassure me in this respect.

I look forward to receiving a substantive response within the next ten working days.

Yours faithfully,

David Mery

Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr Mery

Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2013090002774

I write in connection with your request for information dated which was
received by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 28/09/2013.  I note
you seek access to the following information:

On the night of 1 October 2012, a disturbance occurred at the River House
facility operated by the South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust.
Assistance from the Metropolitan Police was first requested at 22:44 and
the first police officer from Bromley Police Station arrived promptly at
22:47

Can you send me the number of police officers who attended this incident,
their rank, the unit they were from (Bromley, TSG, etc) and their time of
arrival at and departure from the incident, as well as any other document
held by the MPS related to this incident.

Firstly, I would wish to offer sincere apologies for the delay in getting
this response to you especially when the conclusion of the MPS is that I
have to inform you that unfortunately it is not possible to respond to
your request within the cost threshold.

The subject of your request, disturbance at the River House facility, was
treated as a critical incident by the MPS and accordingly involved many
different police units, including, as you mention, members of the
Territorial Support Group. To assess who or may have relevant information
for this request at least 12 (Twelve) separate CAD messages, the MPS
electronic message system, were created and run for the incident
mentioned. Each CAD contains both individual officer numbers and call
sign's of vehicles dispatched to the scene, including TSG. What the CAD
does not show are the individual officers that made up the various crews,
i.e. In that the TSG vehicle could have contained six officers. Therefore,
in order to ascertain who individual officers were, other databases would
need to be searched in order to ascertain those facts.

Having attempted to identify all police officers that attended the
incident, the next element of your request involves identifying "any other
document" held by the MPS. It should be noted that Freedom of Information
relates to information held rather than actual documents, however in this
instance officers attending may have completed notes in pocket books,
along with entries in vehicle logs or indeed incident / decision logs.

Therefore, I would estimate that in order to determine whether the MPS
holds the information, i.e. to find out who exactly holds relevant
information, to locate the information, then to retrieve the information
and finally extract all pertinent information would exceed the appropriate
limit. The appropriate limit has been specified in regulations and for
agencies outside central Government; this is set at £450.00.   This
represents the estimated cost of one person spending 18 hours [at a rate
of £25 per hour] carrying out the four functions shown above, that is
determining if information is held, locating it then retrieving and
extracting that information.

I estimate that to carry out the four elements described above would I
believe take at least an hour to examine all CAD reports to identify units
/ officers involved and then from each officer thus identified to carry
out the elements that make up the cost function would be at least another
20 hours of work, and quite possibly even then all relevant information
may not have been identified and therefore not located.

In accordance with the Freedom of Information Act 2000, this letter acts
as a Refusal Notice.

Section 17(5) of the Act provides:

(5) A public authority which, in relation to any request for information,
is relying on a claim that section 12 or 14 applies must, within the time
for complying with section 1(1), give the applicant a notice stating that
fact.

Section 12(1) of the Act provides:

(1) Section 1 does not oblige a public authority to comply with a request
for information if the authority estimates that the cost of complying with
the request would exceed the appropriate limit.

Section 16 of the Act provides:

(1) It shall be the duty of a public authority to provide advice and
assistance, so far as it would be reasonable to expect the authority to do
so, to persons who propose to make, or have made, requests for information
to it.

(2) Any public authority which, in relation to the provision of advice or
assistance in any case, conforms with the code of practice under section
45 is to be taken to comply with the duty imposed by subsection (1) in
relation to that case.

I would like to provide you with advice as to how you may narrow your
request so that it does not exceed the appropriate limit. You may wish to
limit your request to the number of officers involved and or for the final
report completed for the incident. Please note that if located and
retrieved information may be subject to exemptions prior to any
disclosure.

COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Your attention is drawn to the attached sheet which details your right of
complaint.

Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please email
Maureen McGuire quoting the reference number above.

Yours sincerely

Maureen McGuire
Quality and Assurance Advisor

COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Are you unhappy with how your request has been handled or do you think the
decision is incorrect?

You have the right to require the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) to
review their decision.

Prior to lodging a formal complaint you are welcome to discuss the
response with the case officer who dealt with your request.  

Complaint

If you are dissatisfied with the handling procedures or the decision of
the MPS made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act) regarding
access to information you can lodge a complaint with the MPS to have the
decision reviewed.

Complaints should be made in writing, within forty (40) working days from
the date of the refusal notice, and addressed to:

FOI Complaint
Public Access Office
PO Box 57192
London
SW6 1SF
[email address]

In all possible circumstances the MPS will aim to respond to your
complaint within 20 working days.

The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with the MPS if you are still dissatisfied with
the decision you may make application to the Information Commissioner for
a decision on whether the request for information has been dealt with in
accordance with the requirements of the Act.

For information on how to make application to the Information Commissioner
please visit their website at www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk.
 Alternatively, phone or write to:

Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone:  01625 545 700

Total Policing is the Met's commitment to be on the streets and in your
communities to catch offenders, prevent crime and support victims. We are
here for London, working with you to make our capital safer.

 

Consider our environment - please do not print this email unless
absolutely necessary.

NOTICE - This email and any attachments may be confidential, subject to
copyright and/or legal privilege and are intended solely for the use of
the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please
notify the sender and delete it from your system.  To avoid incurring
legal liabilities, you must not distribute or copy the information in this
email without the permission of the sender. MPS communication systems are
monitored to the extent permitted by law.  Consequently, any email and/or
attachments may be read by monitoring staff. Only specified personnel are
authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the MPS by
email. The MPS accepts no responsibility for unauthorised agreements
reached with other employees or agents.  The security of this email and
any attachments cannot be guaranteed. Email messages are routinely scanned
but malicious software infection and corruption of content can still occur
during transmission over the Internet. Any views or opinions expressed in
this communication are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
represent those of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS).

 

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Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr Mery

Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2013090002774

I write in connection with your request for information dated which was
received by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 28/09/2013.  I note
you seek access to the following information:

On the night of 1 October 2012, a disturbance occurred at the River House
facility operated by the South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust.
Assistance from the Metropolitan Police was first requested at 22:44 and
the first police officer from Bromley Police Station arrived promptly at
22:47

Can you send me the number of police officers who attended this incident,
their rank, the unit they were from (Bromley, TSG, etc) and their time of
arrival at and departure from the incident, as well as any other document
held by the MPS related to this incident.

Firstly, I would wish to offer sincere apologies for the delay in getting
this response to you especially when the conclusion of the MPS is that I
have to inform you that unfortunately it is not possible to respond to
your request within the cost threshold.

The subject of your request, disturbance at the River House facility, was
treated as a critical incident by the MPS and accordingly involved many
different police units, including, as you mention, members of the
Territorial Support Group. To assess who or may have relevant information
for this request at least 12 (Twelve) separate CAD messages, the MPS
electronic message system, were created and run for the incident
mentioned. Each CAD contains both individual officer numbers and call
sign's of vehicles dispatched to the scene, including TSG. What the CAD
does not show are the individual officers that made up the various crews,
i.e. In that the TSG vehicle could have contained six officers. Therefore,
in order to ascertain who individual officers were, other databases would
need to be searched in order to ascertain those facts.

Having attempted to identify all police officers that attended the
incident, the next element of your request involves identifying "any other
document" held by the MPS. It should be noted that Freedom of Information
relates to information held rather than actual documents, however in this
instance officers attending may have completed notes in pocket books,
along with entries in vehicle logs or indeed incident / decision logs.

Therefore, I would estimate that in order to determine whether the MPS
holds the information, i.e. to find out who exactly holds relevant
information, to locate the information, then to retrieve the information
and finally extract all pertinent information would exceed the appropriate
limit. The appropriate limit has been specified in regulations and for
agencies outside central Government; this is set at £450.00.   This
represents the estimated cost of one person spending 18 hours [at a rate
of £25 per hour] carrying out the four functions shown above, that is
determining if information is held, locating it then retrieving and
extracting that information.

I estimate that to carry out the four elements described above would I
believe take at least an hour to examine all CAD reports to identify units
/ officers involved and then from each officer thus identified to carry
out the elements that make up the cost function would be at least another
20 hours of work, and quite possibly even then all relevant information
may not have been identified and therefore not located.

In accordance with the Freedom of Information Act 2000, this letter acts
as a Refusal Notice.

Section 17(5) of the Act provides:

(5) A public authority which, in relation to any request for information,
is relying on a claim that section 12 or 14 applies must, within the time
for complying with section 1(1), give the applicant a notice stating that
fact.

Section 12(1) of the Act provides:

(1) Section 1 does not oblige a public authority to comply with a request
for information if the authority estimates that the cost of complying with
the request would exceed the appropriate limit.

Section 16 of the Act provides:

(1) It shall be the duty of a public authority to provide advice and
assistance, so far as it would be reasonable to expect the authority to do
so, to persons who propose to make, or have made, requests for information
to it.

(2) Any public authority which, in relation to the provision of advice or
assistance in any case, conforms with the code of practice under section
45 is to be taken to comply with the duty imposed by subsection (1) in
relation to that case.

I would like to provide you with advice as to how you may narrow your
request so that it does not exceed the appropriate limit. You may wish to
limit your request to the number of officers involved and or for the final
report completed for the incident. Please note that if located and
retrieved information may be subject to exemptions prior to any
disclosure.

COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Your attention is drawn to the attached sheet which details your right of
complaint.

Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please email
Maureen McGuire quoting the reference number above.

Yours sincerely

Maureen McGuire
Quality and Assurance Advisor
COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Are you unhappy with how your request has been handled or do you think the
decision is incorrect?

You have the right to require the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) to
review their decision.

Prior to lodging a formal complaint you are welcome to discuss the
response with the case officer who dealt with your request.  

Complaint

If you are dissatisfied with the handling procedures or the decision of
the MPS made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act) regarding
access to information you can lodge a complaint with the MPS to have the
decision reviewed.

Complaints should be made in writing, within forty (40) working days from
the date of the refusal notice, and addressed to:

FOI Complaint
Public Access Office
PO Box 57192
London
SW6 1SF
[email address]

In all possible circumstances the MPS will aim to respond to your
complaint within 20 working days.
The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with the MPS if you are still dissatisfied with
the decision you may make application to the Information Commissioner for
a decision on whether the request for information has been dealt with in
accordance with the requirements of the Act.

For information on how to make application to the Information Commissioner
please visit their website at www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk.
 Alternatively, phone or write to:

Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone:  01625 545 700

Total Policing is the Met's commitment to be on the streets and in your
communities to catch offenders, prevent crime and support victims. We are
here for London, working with you to make our capital safer.

 

Consider our environment - please do not print this email unless
absolutely necessary.

NOTICE - This email and any attachments may be confidential, subject to
copyright and/or legal privilege and are intended solely for the use of
the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please
notify the sender and delete it from your system.  To avoid incurring
legal liabilities, you must not distribute or copy the information in this
email without the permission of the sender. MPS communication systems are
monitored to the extent permitted by law.  Consequently, any email and/or
attachments may be read by monitoring staff. Only specified personnel are
authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the MPS by
email. The MPS accepts no responsibility for unauthorised agreements
reached with other employees or agents.  The security of this email and
any attachments cannot be guaranteed. Email messages are routinely scanned
but malicious software infection and corruption of content can still occur
during transmission over the Internet. Any views or opinions expressed in
this communication are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
represent those of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS).

 

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Dear Ms McGuire,

Thank you for your response, apologies and assistance.

Following you s16 assistance, I would like to limit my request to the number of officers involved and which units they were from, and to the final report completed for the incident.

Considering your breach of the FoIA and that Ms Minhas wrote that the MPS is striving 'to provide a more efficient and effective service in the future.' I very much look forward for a prompt substantive response well within the limits of the act.

Yours faithfully,

David Mery

Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr Mery

Thank you for your email. Your request will be logged as a new request and dealt with within 20 working days in accordance with the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act).

You will receive a response within the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined by the Act, subject to the information not being exempt or containing a reference to a third party. In some circumstances the MPS may be unable to achieve this deadline. If this is likely you will be informed and given a revised time-scale at the earliest opportunity.

Kind regards

Maureen McGuire | Quality & Assurance Advisor | Information Access Services | Information Services Group | Directorate of Information | Metropolitan Police Service
Telephone 020 7161 4511| Extn 784511
Email [email address]
Address 20th Floor (East), Empress State Building, Empress Approach, Lillie Road, London SW6 1TR

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Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr Mery

Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2013120000057
I write in connection with your request for information  which was
received by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 26/11/2013.  I note
you seek access to the following information:

* "Following you s16 assistance, I would like to limit my request to the
number of officers involved and which units they were from, and to the
final report completed for the incident.

On the night of 1 October 2012, a disturbance occurred at the River House
 facility operated by the South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust.
 Assistance from the Metropolitan Police was first requested at 22:44 and
 the first police officer from Bromley Police Station arrived promptly at
 22:47"

Your request will now be considered in accordance with the Freedom of
Information Act 2000 (the Act).  You will receive a response within the
statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined by the Act, subject to
the information not being exempt or containing a reference to a third
party.  In some circumstances the MPS may be unable to achieve this
deadline.  If this is likely you will be informed and given a revised
time-scale at the earliest opportunity.

Some requests may also require either full or partial transference to
another public authority in order to answer your query in the fullest
possible way. Again, you will be informed if this is the case.

COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Your attention is drawn to the attached sheet, which details your right of
complaint.

Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please write
or contact FOIA Team  quoting the reference number above.

Yours sincerely

FOIA TEAM
COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Are you unhappy with how your request has been handled or do you think the
decision is incorrect?

You have the right to require the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) to
review their decision.

Prior to lodging a formal complaint you are welcome to discuss the
response with the case officer who dealt with your request.  

Complaint

If you are dissatisfied with the handling procedures or the decision of
the MPS made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act) regarding
access to information you can lodge a complaint with the MPS to have the
decision reviewed.

Complaints should be made in writing, within forty (40) working days from
the date of the refusal notice, and addressed to:

FOI Complaint
Public Access Office
PO Box 57192
London
SW6 1SF
[email address]

In all possible circumstances the MPS will aim to respond to your
complaint within 20 working days.
The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with the MPS if you are still dissatisfied with
the decision you may make application to the Information Commissioner for
a decision on whether the request for information has been dealt with in
accordance with the requirements of the Act.

For information on how to make application to the Information Commissioner
please visit their website at www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk.
 Alternatively, phone or write to:

Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone:  01625 545 700

Total Policing is the Met's commitment to be on the streets and in your
communities to catch offenders, prevent crime and support victims. We are
here for London, working with you to make our capital safer.

 

Consider our environment - please do not print this email unless
absolutely necessary.

NOTICE - This email and any attachments may be confidential, subject to
copyright and/or legal privilege and are intended solely for the use of
the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please
notify the sender and delete it from your system.  To avoid incurring
legal liabilities, you must not distribute or copy the information in this
email without the permission of the sender. MPS communication systems are
monitored to the extent permitted by law.  Consequently, any email and/or
attachments may be read by monitoring staff. Only specified personnel are
authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the MPS by
email. The MPS accepts no responsibility for unauthorised agreements
reached with other employees or agents.  The security of this email and
any attachments cannot be guaranteed. Email messages are routinely scanned
but malicious software infection and corruption of content can still occur
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Dear Metropolitan Police Service (MPS),

It is unfortunate that just after writing that the MPS is striving 'to provide a more efficient and effective service in the future.' you do not provide a response within 20 working days.

This request is now overdue.

Best wishes for the festive season.

Yours faithfully,

David Mery

Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr Mery

Freedom of Information Request Reference No:  2013120000057

I write in connection with your request for information which was received
by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 26/11/2013.  I note you seek
access to the following information:

"Following you s16 assistance, I would like to limit my request to the
number of officers involved and which units they were from, and to the
final report completed for the incident."

EXTENT OF SEARCHES TO LOCATE INFORMATION

To locate the information relevant to your request searches were conducted
at Bromley Borough.

RESULT OF SEARCHES

The searches located records relevant to your request.

DECISION

I have today decided to disclose the located information to you in full.

Please find attached information pursuant to your request above.

The number of officers initially deployed were:

1 Inspector
1 Police Sergeant
10 Police Constables from the response team at Bromley.
 
The Inspector declared the incident  "otherwise so dangerous" and
requested Commissioners Reserve.
 
As a result further officers were deployed which were:
 
2 Inspectors
3 Sergeants
21 Police Constables from the Territorial Support Group. (TSG)
6 Police Officers in two vehicles from the Armed Response Unit (ARV) -
These were stood down upon the arrival of the TSG
2 Police Officers from the Dog Unit (with two dogs) - These were stood
down upon the arrival of the TSG
1 Detective Sergeant, 1 Detective Constable from Bromley

Despite our searches there is no information held in regards to the final
report.

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Your attention is drawn to the attached sheet which details your right of
complaint.

Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please write
or contact Maureen McGuire on telephone number 020 7161 4511  quoting the
reference number above.

Yours sincerely

Maureen McGuire
Public Access Office

In complying with their statutory duty under sections 1 and 11 of the
Freedom of Information Act 2000 to release the enclosed information, the
Metropolitan Police Service will not breach the Copyright, Designs and
Patents Act 1988. However, the rights of the copyright owner of the
enclosed information will continue to be protected by law.  Applications
for the copyright owner's written permission to reproduce any part of the
attached information should be addressed to MPS Directorate of Legal
Services, 1st Floor (Victoria Block), New Scotland Yard, Victoria, London,
SW1H 0BG.
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Dear Ms McGuire,

Thank you for your response.

I would appreciate your S16 assistance to parse the sentence: 'Despite our searches there is no information held in regards to the final report.'

Considering that 'The Inspector declared the incident "otherwise so dangerous"' it seems surprising that no report was compiled.

So should I read between the line of the earlier S16 assistance and your sentence, that although no 'final report' exists, there are non-final report(s) held that I can request under FoIA?

Yours faithfully,

David Mery

Dear Ms McGuire,

I would appreciate if you can inform me when you will be able to provide me with the requested s16 assistance.

Yours faithfully,

David Mery

Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr Mery

Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2013120000057

I write in connection with your email which was received by the
Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 31/12/2013.  

As stated in the MPS response regarding your FOI request as referenced
above. Searches had been conducted within the MPS, it was concluded that
there is no information held regarding a final report that can be
requested under FOI.

Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please write
or contact Maureen McGuire on telephone number 0207 161 4511 quoting the
reference number above.

Yours sincerely

Maureen McGuire
Quality and Assurance Advisor

Total Policing is the Met's commitment to be on the streets and in your
communities to catch offenders, prevent crime and support victims. We are
here for London, working with you to make our capital safer.

 

Consider our environment - please do not print this email unless
absolutely necessary.

NOTICE - This email and any attachments may be confidential, subject to
copyright and/or legal privilege and are intended solely for the use of
the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please
notify the sender and delete it from your system.  To avoid incurring
legal liabilities, you must not distribute or copy the information in this
email without the permission of the sender. MPS communication systems are
monitored to the extent permitted by law.  Consequently, any email and/or
attachments may be read by monitoring staff. Only specified personnel are
authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the MPS by
email. The MPS accepts no responsibility for unauthorised agreements
reached with other employees or agents.  The security of this email and
any attachments cannot be guaranteed. Email messages are routinely scanned
but malicious software infection and corruption of content can still occur
during transmission over the Internet. Any views or opinions expressed in
this communication are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
represent those of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS).

 

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