Request: List of open content

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Dear Cadw: Welsh Historic Monuments,

Can you provide me with a lst of all files (images, text, video etc) which we can use on Wicipedia / Wikipedia e.g. Open Government Licence, CC-BY-SA licence, out of copyright etc.

Diolch yn fawr.

Yours faithfully,

Llywelyn

Devine, Vincent (DH - CADW),

Dear Llywelin

Thank you for your recent e-mail concerning licensing etc. The Welsh Government is still investigating this topic and no decision has been reached. I have been advised that it is not necessary to treat this requests as a formal FOI request, however, I can provide you with some information concerning licensing.

I hope that this approach is acceptable to you and I would be grateful if you would confirm that this is so.

Yours sincerely

Vince Devine HND, BSc (Hons), MA
Rheolwr Gwybodaeth a Hybysrwydd/Knowledge & Information Manager
Ymgysylltu a'r Cyhoedd a Llywodraethu/Public Engagement & Governance
Cadw
Llywoderaeth Cymru/Welsh Government
Plas Carew
5/7 Cefn Coed
Parc Nantgarw
Caerdydd/Cardiff
CF15 7QQ

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Ffacs / Fax: 01443 33 60 01
E-bost:[email address]
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Dear Devine, Vincent (DH - CADW),

Thanks for a quick response.

You said:
"I have been advised that it is not necessary to treat this requests as a formal FOI request, however, I can provide you with some information concerning licensing."

On what grounds is my request for your database of such images NOT a formal FOI request?

Secondly, I understand the licensing of files, and reiterate my original request for a database of all your images, videos and text showing which ones are:
out of copyright
Open Government license
Crown Copyright
CC-BY-SA etc

Yours sincerely,

Llywelyn

Devine, Vincent (DH - CADW),

Dear Llywelyn

Thank you for your e-mail. The reason for the advice regarding a formal Freedom of Information enquiry is that Cadw and other partners within the Welsh Assembly Government are investigating the licensing of Government information. The processes and issues are complicated and often involve legal issues such as Crown Copyright. Cadw is still investigating the issues involved and is in the process of developing mitigation strategies. I could not provide you with a database as requested, but I could provide a with a summary of the work that Cadw has undertaken to date.

If required, I can supply you with a summary of our progress to date, either as a general enquiry or I could contact the Welsh Government Freedom of Information office again for advice regarding a Freedom of Information enquiry.

Yours sincerely

Vince Devine HND, BSc (Hons), MA
Rheolwr Gwybodaeth a Hybysrwydd/Knowledge & Information Manager
Ymgysylltu a'r Cyhoedd a Llywodraethu/Public Engagement & Governance
Cadw
Llywoderaeth Cymru/Welsh Government
Plas Carew
5/7 Cefn Coed
Parc Nantgarw
Caerdydd/Cardiff
CF15 7QQ

Ffôn / Tel: 01443 33 6122
Ffacs / Fax: 01443 33 60 01
E-bost:[email address]
E-mail:[email address]

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Dear Devine, Vincent (DH - CADW),

Thanks for your email.

I'm not asking what Cadw's future plans are, Vincent, I'm asking for a list / database of images showing their present state of copyright / license.

Do you have such a list / database?

I take this request to be a bona fide FoIR.

Many thanks.

Yours sincerely,

Llywelyn

Devine, Vincent (DH - CADW),

Dear Llywelyn

Thank you for your e-mail. I will contact the Welsh Government Freedom of Information Officer regarding your request. The request is different from your original request, however, a request for clarification will be sent to you, during any Freedom of Information process. As noted in my e-mail below, Cadw does not hold a specific database that records the information that you require, however, I will ascertain whether other repositories can generate reports that may show some of the information.

Yours sincerely

Vince Devine HND, BSc (Hons), MA
Rheolwr Gwybodaeth a Hybysrwydd/Knowledge & Information Manager
Ymgysylltu a'r Cyhoedd a Llywodraethu/Public Engagement & Governance
Cadw
Llywoderaeth Cymru/Welsh Government
Plas Carew
5/7 Cefn Coed
Parc Nantgarw
Caerdydd/Cardiff
CF15 7QQ

Ffôn / Tel: 01443 33 6122
Ffacs / Fax: 01443 33 60 01
E-bost:[email address]
E-mail:[email address]

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Dear Devine, Vincent (DH - CADW),

Many thanks for your email.
You said:

"The request is different from your original request, however."

Not really, no. I attempted to steer you in the right direction as I don't think you understood my request.

Regarding:
"Cadw does not hold a specific database that records the information that you require..."

My reply: I therefore request a database of all your images (or collections of images) together with all meta data.

Yours sincerely,

Llywelyn

Devine, Vincent (DH - CADW),

1 Attachment

Dear Llywelyn

Thank you for your recent enquiry concerning the reuse of images. Please
see the attached letter. I would be grateful if you would confirm my
understanding of your request. Thank you.

    
Regards
<<Cadw - Freedom of Information Enquiry - ATI Ref 6996 - 2013-02-21.doc>>
Vince Devine HND, BSc (Hons), MA
Rheolwr Gwybodaeth a Hybysrwydd/Knowledge & Information Manager
Ymgysylltu a'r Cyhoedd a Llywodraethu/Public Engagement & Governance
Cadw
Llywoderaeth Cymru/Welsh Government
Plas Carew
5/7 Cefn Coed
Parc Nantgarw
Caerdydd/Cardiff
CF15 7QQ

Ffôn / Tel: 01443 33 6122
Ffacs / Fax: 01443 33 60 01
E-bost:[email address]
E-mail:[email address]

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rhai personol ac nid yn rhai gan Lywodraeth Cymru, unrhyw ran ohoni neu
unrhyw gorff sy'n gysylltiedig â hi

Any of the statements or comments made above should be regarded as
personal and not those of the Welsh Government, any constituent part or
connected body.

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Dear Devine, Vincent (DH - CADW),

Please do not hide your letter as an attachment. Many other people want to see your answers; this is very much in accordance with transparent government.

You attached a letter containing the following:

(quote follows)
Dear Llywelin

REQUEST FOR INFORMATION – ATI REF 6996 – A LIST OF CADW CROWN COPYRIGHT IMAGES

Thank you for your request that I received on 07/02/2013. You asked for information concerning the following: -

1. A list of Cadw Crown Copyright digital images

2. The accompanying metadata is reference number, title and copyright status

I would be grateful if you would confirm that the above is a true and accurate summary of your request.

I can confirm that the Welsh Government is treating your request as a formal Freedom of Information enquiry, the reference number is 6996.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely

Vincent Devine HND, BSc (Hons), MA
Cadw Knowledge and Information Manager

(end quote)

My response to Question 1: Yes.
My response to Question 2: Your sentence has grammatical flaws. I take it that what you mean is:

The accompanying metadata's reference number, title and copyright status.

If so then yes that is correct.

Another of your mistakes appears in your responses to me: my name is Llywelyn, not Llywelin! I would appreciate if you would use it, Vincent. I'm surprised that an employee of CADW can't spell the name of a Welsh Prince. Or maybe I'm not that surprised either.

Yours sincerely,

Llywelyn

Devine, Vincent (DH - CADW),

Thank you for your message.  I will be away from the office until
25/02/2013.  I will deal with e-mails on my return. 

If your request is urgent please contact Lisa Fiddes 01443 33 6071 (Monday
& Tuesday), Jessica Hughes 01443 33 6078 (Weds &Thursday) or Nigel Davies
01443 33 6076 (Friday)

Diolch am eich neges.  Ni fyddaf yn y swyddfa tan 25/02/2013.  Byddaf yn
delio â'm e-byst ar ôl dychwelyd.

Os yw eich cais yn un brys, cysylltwch â Lisa Fiddes 01443 33 6071.(ar
Ddydd Llun a Dydd Mawrth), Jessica Hughes 01443 33 6078 (ar Ddydd Mercher
a Ddydd Iau) neu Nigel Davies 01443 33 6076 (Dydd Gwener)

On leaving the Government Secure Intranet this email was certified virus
free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored
and/or recorded for legal purposes.
Wrth adael Mewnrwyd Ddiogel y Llywodraeth nid oedd unrhyw feirws yn
gysylltiedig â’r neges hon. Mae’n ddigon posibl y bydd unrhyw ohebiaeth
drwy’r GSi yn cael ei logio, ei monitro a/neu ei chofnodi yn awtomatig am
resymau cyfreithiol.

Perry Icso left an annotation ()

Mae'r swyddog sy wedi camsillafu eich enw hefyd wedi camsillafu "llywodraeth" (fel "llywoderaeth") yn ei lofnod ebost. Dwi'n gweld hefyd eich bod wedi cael gohebiaeth gyda'r un swyddog flwyddyn yn ôl mewn cais arall ("List of Geographical coordinates"), ac roedd y camgymeriad hwn yn ei lofnod ar y pryd hwnnw hefyd, felly mae'r camgymeriad wedi bod yn ymddangos yn ei holl negesau am flwyddyn gyfan o leiaf. Braidd yn drist, ond ydy o ei fai ei hun, neu fai'r siaradwyr Cymraeg sydd wedi peidio â chwyno amdano fo?

Llywelyn left an annotation ()

Ydy; rwyt ti'n gywir. Dw i wedi ei gywiro, ond wrandawodd e ddim! Ond mae hyn yn ddibwys o'i gymharu a'r ymgyrch ei hun, sy'n seiliedig ar dryloywder ac mai eiddo pobl Cymru ydy'r holl wybodaeth sy'n cael eu cadw ganddynt!

Yes, you're right (that he miss-spelt my name several times in this and other requests over a year ago). I have corrected him, but to know avail! But this is trivial compared to the campaign to release the files they lock up back into the public domain, and the transparency of it all.

Devine, Vincent (DH - CADW),

2 Attachments

Dear Llywelyn

Please find attached a response to your Freedom of Information Enquiry
(Ref 6996). The Welsh Government's procedure for answering Freedom of
Information enquiries requires the responder to draft a letter of
response, hence the attachments.

Yours Sincerely

Vince Devine HND, BSc (Hons), MA
Rheolwr Gwybodaeth a Hybysrwydd/Knowledge & Information Manager
Ymgysylltu a'r Cyhoedd a Llywodraethu/Public Engagement & Governance
Cadw
Llywoderaeth Cymru/Welsh Government
Plas Carew
5/7 Cefn Coed
Parc Nantgarw
Caerdydd/Cardiff
CF15 7QQ

Ffôn / Tel: 01443 33 6122
Ffacs / Fax: 01443 33 60 01
E-bost:[email address]
E-mail:[email address]

<<Cadw - Freedom of Information Enquiry - ATI Ref 6996 - 2013-03-04 - Cadw
Letter.doc>> <<CADW-ACCESSIONED-CROWN-IMAGES-TO-25-02-13.pdf>>

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rhai personol ac nid yn rhai gan Lywodraeth Cymru, unrhyw ran ohoni neu
unrhyw gorff sy'n gysylltiedig â hi

Any of the statements or comments made above should be regarded as
personal and not those of the Welsh Government, any constituent part or
connected body.

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Dear Devine, Vincent (DH - CADW),

My request was: 'Can you provide me with a lst of all files (images, text, video etc) which we can use on Wicipedia / Wikipedia e.g. Open Government Licence, CC-BY-SA licence, out of copyright etc.'

Your response to this is that you have no such licenses or out of copyright images. You have therefore answered my request fully.

Many thanks.

You also supplied me with a lsit of all images held by CADW, and have noted that they are all Crown Copyright. Many thanks for this information.

Yours sincerely,

Llywelyn

Devine, Vincent (DH - CADW),

Dear Llywelyn

Thank you for your e-mail. Your original request concerned images and videos etc, however, you changed you request and asked for a list of Crown Copyright Cadw images only. This is the information that was supplied to you via your Freedom of Information enquiry.

Yours sincerely

Vince Devine HND, BSc (Hons), MA
Rheolwr Gwybodaeth a Hybysrwydd/Knowledge & Information Manager
Ymgysylltu a'r Cyhoedd a Llywodraethu/Public Engagement & Governance
Cadw
Llywoderaeth Cymru/Welsh Government
Plas Carew
5/7 Cefn Coed
Parc Nantgarw
Caerdydd/Cardiff
CF15 7QQ

Ffôn / Tel: 01443 33 6122
Ffacs / Fax: 01443 33 60 01
E-bost:[email address]
E-mail:[email address]

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