Remedy for Blocked from Petitioning the House. An FOI Query to the House of Commons, Sept 2017

Waiting for an internal review by House of Commons of their handling of this request.

Dear House of Commons,

In December 2015 I made FOI request to the House. On 19 April 2016 you wrote, “… we interpreted your original question to be about the interpretation of House Standing Orders which relate to the securing of the right of the House to receive a Petition. We informed you that this information was not held. This is because there are no Standing Orders which state that MPs are obliged to present petitions, or that the House has a ‘right’ to receive them.”

In June 2016 I sought to identify 'other rules or accommodations'. Since then, correspondence has been essentially about securing direction. The latest, July 2017 communication from you explains that, my FOI request has been answered and ....(you) will not be responding to any further requests for this information..... So, accordingly, I prepare this new request. That it helps, I'll copy our previous correspondence.

It is my understanding the correct office would normally be the Speaker of the House. As you know, I have already approached this office and other offices of the House. I'd imagine the complaints process is exhausted.

I'm unclear what to do here. I have legitimate grievance but the House is unable or unwilling to assist me so, I respectfully seek guidance. That is to say, do you hold any information which identifies a remedy here. I'd imagine this is a new FOI query given that I abandon the idea of securing direction or making complaint in search of a remedy outside the prescribed. I'd also add that, I am not making a ....case for a change in the rules....

Copied below is my original FOI query:
....What rules or accommodations protect the interest of the petitioner and, more importantly, the right of the House to receive a petition, thus undertake its duty where, the petition being quite in order and conforming to prescribed format, does not please the constituency MP. The same MP refusing to present the petition and blocking others from doing so. I understand there are two issues here i) disciplining the MP, ii) securing the right of the House to receive the petition. My question concerns the latter.....
(Part of the original 2015 FOI query - Blocked From Petitioning the House)

I'd again ask you kindly note that, I do not wish to, as you put it, ....oblige Member to present a petition to the House.... I understand and respect MP's discretion in such matters. However, as I also note, ....it is not up to a member of Parliament to undermine parliamentary procedures to serve his/her own interests...., especially where the House would wish to receive the Petition.

Yours faithfully,
Domenicb

FOI Commons, House of Commons

1 Attachment

Dear Mr Berti,

 

 

Freedom of Information Request F17-382

 

Thank you for your request for information as copied below.  We are aware
that you have a long-standing grievance relating to the refusal by your MP
to present a petition to Parliament.  We have answered a large number of
your queries related to this matter in a previous WhatDoTheyKnow thread. 
We now understand your request to be for any information which “identifies
a remedy”, i.e. secures the right of the House of Commons to receive a
petition.

 

Based on the lengthy and detailed previous correspondence we have had with
you on this very issue, we are refusing your request in accordance with
our rights under section 14 (2) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000. 
 This section states that “where a public authority has previously
complied with a request for information which was made by any person, it
is not obliged to comply with a subsequent identical or substantially
similar request from that person”.

 

We have already advised you that we hold no recorded information obliging
Members of Parliament to present constituent’s petitions, or detailing how
the House of Commons secures its right to receive petitions.  We
previously informed you that it is the Procedure Committee which considers
the practice and procedure of the House in the conduct of public business,
and invited you to contact them to make a case for your position.  We have
also provided you with considerable information about our complaints
procedures as a route to airing your dissatisfaction on this matter.

 

We have concluded that we have exhausted all help and assistance we can
give you on this matter over the last two years and I must inform you that
any further requests for information that you make to this department will
be reviewed by officials on receipt, and if we consider that section 14(2)
applies we will not respond to them or enter into any further
correspondence with you on the request(s).

 

 

You may, if dissatisfied with the handling of your request, complain to
the House of Commons. Alternatively, if you are dissatisfied with the
outcome of your request you may ask the House of Commons to conduct an
internal review of any decision regarding your request.  Complaints or
requests for internal review should be addressed to: Information Rights
and Information Security Service, Research & Information Team, House of
Commons, London SW1A 0AA or [1][House of Commons request email].  Please ensure
that you specify the full reasons for your complaint or internal review
along with any arguments or points that you wish to make.

 

If you remain dissatisfied, you may appeal to the Information Commissioner
at Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire SK9 5AF,
[2]www.ico.gov.uk.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

         
Information Rights Manager
Information Rights and Information Security (IRIS) Service | House of
Commons

 

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Click [4]here for information about FOI in the House of Commons,

or to see what we publish.

 

 

 

Dear House of Commons Internal Review Team,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of House of Commons's handling of my FOI request 'Remedy for Blocked from Petitioning the House. An FOI Query to the House of Commons, Sept 2017'.

The Information Rights Manager (IR Manager) advises me that s/he is not going to respond to further communications and invites me to complain. So, accordingly, I copy you correspondence and ask you kindly deal with my complaint.

The IR Manager writes, ....it is the Procedure Committee which considers the practice and procedure of the House in the conduct of public business, and invited you (me) to contact them to make a case for your (my) position....

With respect, the prescribed (and exhausted) channels of complaint failed to work. Redirecting me to the same (whether it be the identified Procedures Committee or other office) is not helpful; why should its position change? If its position is to change, I'm not the person to demand it so; this would be a matter for the House. HofC FOI Team fails to assist me here.

The IR Manager notes ....lengthy and detailed previous correspondence .... as a means to refuse to deal with my new query. I don't think this entirely fair and I'd respectfully invite the IR Manager to have an other look at the string of communications between ourselves.

The IR Manager writes, ....We now understand your request to be for any information which “identifies a remedy”, i.e. secures the right of the House of Commons to receive a petition.... This is not my FOI query. I accept my query includes correspondence of a previous query and indeed refers to the same but it is a new query.

My new query reads: ....do you hold any information which identifies a remedy here. I'd imagine this is a new FOI query given that I abandon the idea of securing direction or making complaint in search of a remedy outside the prescribed.... That is to say, HofC FOI Team have addressed my original query in so far as it acknowledges the House holds no information so, given the same, I seek information on how one secures remedy outside the prescribed routes. I'd respectfully remind the Team that redirecting me to the same offices is not helpful. It may be the HofC FOI Team again holds no information so, as it is obliged to so under section 16 of the FOI Act, I respectfully request it affords me advice and or assistance.

F.Y.I. Copied below is part of the original 2015 FOI query - Blocked From Petitioning the House
(some previous references given as : F16-088, F16-440 and, FOI #308442)
....What rules or accommodations protect the interest of the petitioner and, more importantly, the right of the House to receive a petition, thus undertake its duty, where the petition, being quite in order and conforming to prescribed format, does not please the constituency MP. The same MP refusing to present the petition and blocking others from doing so. I understand there are two issues here i) disciplining the MP, ii) securing the right of the House to receive the petition. My question concerns the latter.....

Regards,
DomenicB
_________________
PREVIOUS CORRESPONDENCE:
_________________

22 September 2017
FOI Commons, House of Commons

Dear Mr Berti,

Freedom of Information Request F17-382

Thank you for your request for information as copied below. We are aware
that you have a long-standing grievance relating to the refusal by your MP
to present a petition to Parliament. We have answered a large number of
your queries related to this matter in a previous WhatDoTheyKnow thread.
We now understand your request to be for any information which “identifies
a remedy”, i.e. secures the right of the House of Commons to receive a
petition.

Based on the lengthy and detailed previous correspondence we have had with
you on this very issue, we are refusing your request in accordance with
our rights under section 14 (2) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
This section states that “where a public authority has previously
complied with a request for information which was made by any person, it
is not obliged to comply with a subsequent identical or substantially
similar request from that person”.

We have already advised you that we hold no recorded information obliging
Members of Parliament to present constituent’s petitions, or detailing how
the House of Commons secures its right to receive petitions. We
previously informed you that it is the Procedure Committee which considers
the practice and procedure of the House in the conduct of public business,
and invited you to contact them to make a case for your position. We have
also provided you with considerable information about our complaints
procedures as a route to airing your dissatisfaction on this matter.

We have concluded that we have exhausted all help and assistance we can
give you on this matter over the last two years and I must inform you that
any further requests for information that you make to this department will
be reviewed by officials on receipt, and if we consider that section 14(2)
applies we will not respond to them or enter into any further
correspondence with you on the request(s).

You may, if dissatisfied with the handling of your request, complain to
the House of Commons. Alternatively, if you are dissatisfied with the
outcome of your request you may ask the House of Commons to conduct an
internal review of any decision regarding your request. Complaints or
requests for internal review should be addressed to: Information Rights
and Information Security Service, Research & Information Team, House of
Commons, London SW1A 0AA or [1][House of Commons request email]. Please ensure
that you specify the full reasons for your complaint or internal review
along with any arguments or points that you wish to make.

If you remain dissatisfied, you may appeal to the Information Commissioner
at Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire SK9 5AF,
[2]www.ico.gov.uk.

Yours sincerely,
Information Rights Manager
Information Rights and Information Security (IRIS) Service | House of Commons
[3]cid:image002.jpg@01D02B64.34D76640

_____________________________

ORIGINATING QUERY
19 September 2017 - message Delivered
domenic b

Dear House of Commons,

In December 2015 I made FOI request to the House. On 19 April 2016 you wrote, “… we interpreted your original question to be about the interpretation of House Standing Orders which relate to the securing of the right of the House to receive a Petition. We informed you that this information was not held. This is because there are no Standing Orders which state that MPs are obliged to present petitions, or that the House has a ‘right’ to receive them.”

In June 2016 I sought to identify 'other rules or accommodations'. Since then, correspondence has been essentially about securing direction. The latest, July 2017 communication from you explains that, my FOI request has been answered and ....(you) will not be responding to any further requests for this information..... So, accordingly, I prepare this new request. That it helps, I'll copy our previous correspondence.

It is my understanding the correct office would normally be the Speaker of the House. As you know, I have already approached this office and other offices of the House. I'd imagine the complaints process is exhausted.

I'm unclear what to do here. I have legitimate grievance but the House is unable or unwilling to assist me so, I respectfully seek guidance. That is to say, do you hold any information which identifies a remedy here. I'd imagine this is a new FOI query given that I abandon the idea of securing direction or making complaint in search of a remedy outside the prescribed. I'd also add that, I am not making a ....case for a change in the rules....

Copied below is my original FOI query:
....What rules or accommodations protect the interest of the petitioner and, more importantly, the right of the House to receive a petition, thus undertake its duty where, the petition being quite in order and conforming to prescribed format, does not please the constituency MP. The same MP refusing to present the petition and blocking others from doing so. I understand there are two issues here i) disciplining the MP, ii) securing the right of the House to receive the petition. My question concerns the latter.....
(Part of the original 2015 FOI query - Blocked From Petitioning the House)

I'd again ask you kindly note that, I do not wish to, as you put it, ....oblige Member to present a petition to the House.... I understand and respect MP's discretion in such matters. However, as I also note, ....it is not up to a member of Parliament to undermine parliamentary procedures to serve his/her own interests...., especially where the House would wish to receive the Petition.....

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

January 6, 2017

Dear House of Commons Internal Review Team,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews. I am writing to request an internal review of House of Commons's handling of my FOI request 'Remedy for Blocked from Petitioning the House. An FOI Query to the House of Commons, Sept 2017'.

Having secured no response to my request for an Internal Review and not knowing whether or not it was in fact received, I send you you it again; hope that's OK. However you choose to deal with it, If you would but confirm its receipt it would assist me.

I enclose the last message of November 2017

Regards,
DomenicB

__________________________

domenic b 22 November 2017
Delivered
Dear House of Commons Internal Review Team,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of House of Commons's handling of my FOI request 'Remedy for Blocked from Petitioning the House. An FOI Query to the House of Commons, Sept 2017'.

The Information Rights Manager (IR Manager) advises me that s/he is not going to respond to further communications and invites me to complain. So, accordingly, I copy you correspondence and ask you kindly deal with my complaint.

The IR Manager writes, ....it is the Procedure Committee which considers the practice and procedure of the House in the conduct of public business, and invited you (me) to contact them to make a case for your (my) position....

With respect, the prescribed (and exhausted) channels of complaint failed to work. Redirecting me to the same (whether it be the identified Procedures Committee or other office) is not helpful; why should its position change? If its position is to change, I'm not the person to demand it so; this would be a matter for the House. HofC FOI Team fails to assist me here.

The IR Manager notes ....lengthy and detailed previous correspondence .... as a means to refuse to deal with my new query. I don't think this entirely fair and I'd respectfully invite the IR Manager to have an other look at the string of communications between ourselves.

The IR Manager writes, ....We now understand your request to be for any information which “identifies a remedy”, i.e. secures the right of the House of Commons to receive a petition.... This is not my FOI query. I accept my query includes correspondence of a previous query and indeed refers to the same but it is a new query.

My new query reads: ....do you hold any information which identifies a remedy here. I'd imagine this is a new FOI query given that I abandon the idea of securing direction or making complaint in search of a remedy outside the prescribed.... That is to say, HofC FOI Team have addressed my original query in so far as it acknowledges the House holds no information so, given the same, I seek information on how one secures remedy outside the prescribed routes. I'd respectfully remind the Team that redirecting me to the same offices is not helpful. It may be the HofC FOI Team again holds no information so, as it is obliged to so under section 16 of the FOI Act, I respectfully request it affords me advice and or assistance.

F.Y.I. Copied below is part of the original 2015 FOI query - Blocked From Petitioning the House
(some previous references given as : F16-088, F16-440 and, FOI #308442)
....What rules or accommodations protect the interest of the petitioner and, more importantly, the right of the House to receive a petition, thus undertake its duty, where the petition, being quite in order and conforming to prescribed format, does not please the constituency MP. The same MP refusing to present the petition and blocking others from doing so. I understand there are two issues here i) disciplining the MP, ii) securing the right of the House to receive the petition. My question concerns the latter.....

Regards,
DomenicB
_________________
PREVIOUS CORRESPONDENCE:
_________________

22 September 2017
FOI Commons, House of Commons

Dear Mr Berti,

Freedom of Information Request F17-382

Thank you for your request for information as copied below. We are aware
that you have a long-standing grievance relating to the refusal by your MP
to present a petition to Parliament. We have answered a large number of
your queries related to this matter in a previous WhatDoTheyKnow thread.
We now understand your request to be for any information which “identifies
a remedy”, i.e. secures the right of the House of Commons to receive a
petition.

Based on the lengthy and detailed previous correspondence we have had with
you on this very issue, we are refusing your request in accordance with
our rights under section 14 (2) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
This section states that “where a public authority has previously
complied with a request for information which was made by any person, it
is not obliged to comply with a subsequent identical or substantially
similar request from that person”.

We have already advised you that we hold no recorded information obliging
Members of Parliament to present constituent’s petitions, or detailing how
the House of Commons secures its right to receive petitions. We
previously informed you that it is the Procedure Committee which considers
the practice and procedure of the House in the conduct of public business,
and invited you to contact them to make a case for your position. We have
also provided you with considerable information about our complaints
procedures as a route to airing your dissatisfaction on this matter.

We have concluded that we have exhausted all help and assistance we can
give you on this matter over the last two years and I must inform you that
any further requests for information that you make to this department will
be reviewed by officials on receipt, and if we consider that section 14(2)
applies we will not respond to them or enter into any further
correspondence with you on the request(s).

You may, if dissatisfied with the handling of your request, complain to
the House of Commons. Alternatively, if you are dissatisfied with the
outcome of your request you may ask the House of Commons to conduct an
internal review of any decision regarding your request. Complaints or
requests for internal review should be addressed to: Information Rights
and Information Security Service, Research & Information Team, House of
Commons, London SW1A 0AA or [1][House of Commons request email]. Please ensure
that you specify the full reasons for your complaint or internal review
along with any arguments or points that you wish to make.

If you remain dissatisfied, you may appeal to the Information Commissioner
at Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire SK9 5AF,
[2]www.ico.gov.uk.

Yours sincerely,
Information Rights Manager
Information Rights and Information Security (IRIS) Service | House of Commons
[3]cid:image002.jpg@01D02B64.34D76640

_____________________________

ORIGINATING QUERY
19 September 2017 - message Delivered
domenic b

Dear House of Commons,

In December 2015 I made FOI request to the House. On 19 April 2016 you wrote, “… we interpreted your original question to be about the interpretation of House Standing Orders which relate to the securing of the right of the House to receive a Petition. We informed you that this information was not held. This is because there are no Standing Orders which state that MPs are obliged to present petitions, or that the House has a ‘right’ to receive them.”

In June 2016 I sought to identify 'other rules or accommodations'. Since then, correspondence has been essentially about securing direction. The latest, July 2017 communication from you explains that, my FOI request has been answered and ....(you) will not be responding to any further requests for this information..... So, accordingly, I prepare this new request. That it helps, I'll copy our previous correspondence.

It is my understanding the correct office would normally be the Speaker of the House. As you know, I have already approached this office and other offices of the House. I'd imagine the complaints process is exhausted.

I'm unclear what to do here. I have legitimate grievance but the House is unable or unwilling to assist me so, I respectfully seek guidance. That is to say, do you hold any information which identifies a remedy here. I'd imagine this is a new FOI query given that I abandon the idea of securing direction or making complaint in search of a remedy outside the prescribed. I'd also add that, I am not making a ....case for a change in the rules....

Copied below is my original FOI query:
....What rules or accommodations protect the interest of the petitioner and, more importantly, the right of the House to receive a petition, thus undertake its duty where, the petition being quite in order and conforming to prescribed format, does not please the constituency MP. The same MP refusing to present the petition and blocking others from doing so. I understand there are two issues here i) disciplining the MP, ii) securing the right of the House to receive the petition. My question concerns the latter.....
(Part of the original 2015 FOI query - Blocked From Petitioning the House)

I'd again ask you kindly note that, I do not wish to, as you put it, ....oblige Member to present a petition to the House.... I understand and respect MP's discretion in such matters. However, as I also note, ....it is not up to a member of Parliament to undermine parliamentary procedures to serve his/her own interests...., especially where the House would wish to receive the Petition.....

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

[ GIVE DETAILS ABOUT YOUR COMPLAINT HERE ]

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

Yours faithfully,

domenic b

FOI Commons, House of Commons

1 Attachment

Dear Mr Berti,

 

 

Request for Internal Review - F17-382

 

Thank you for your further email, copied below, requesting a full Internal
Review of our response to your Freedom of Information request.

 

We will carry out this review and endeavour to provide a response on or
before 9 February 2018.

 

If you have any queries about the review, please contact me with the
reference in the subject line.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

         
Information Rights Manager
Information Rights and Information Security (IRIS) Service | House of
Commons

 

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Click [2]here for information about FOI in the House of Commons,

or to see what we publish.

 

 

 

 

From: domenic b [mailto:[FOI #432983 email]]
Sent: 06 January 2018 19:51
To: FOI Commons <[email address]>
Subject: Internal review of Freedom of Information request - Remedy for
Blocked from Petitioning the House. An FOI Query to the House of Commons,
Sept 2017

 

January 6, 2017

Dear House of Commons Internal Review Team,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information
reviews. I am writing to request an internal review of House of Commons's
handling of my FOI request 'Remedy for Blocked from Petitioning the House.
An FOI Query to the House of Commons, Sept 2017'.

Having secured no response to my request for an Internal Review and not
knowing whether or not it was in fact received, I send you you it again;
hope that's OK. However you choose to deal with it, If you would but
confirm its receipt it would assist me.

I enclose the last message of November 2017

Regards,
DomenicB

__________________________

domenic b 22 November 2017
Delivered
Dear House of Commons Internal Review Team,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information
reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of House of Commons's handling
of my FOI request 'Remedy for Blocked from Petitioning the House. An FOI
Query to the House of Commons, Sept 2017'.

The Information Rights Manager (IR Manager) advises me that s/he is not
going to respond to further communications and invites me to complain. So,
accordingly, I copy you correspondence and ask you kindly deal with my
complaint.

The IR Manager writes, ....it is the Procedure Committee which considers
the practice and procedure of the House in the conduct of public business,
and invited you (me) to contact them to make a case for your (my)
position....

With respect, the prescribed (and exhausted) channels of complaint failed
to work. Redirecting me to the same (whether it be the identified
Procedures Committee or other office) is not helpful; why should its
position change? If its position is to change, I'm not the person to
demand it so; this would be a matter for the House. HofC FOI Team fails to
assist me here.

The IR Manager notes ....lengthy and detailed previous correspondence ....
as a means to refuse to deal with my new query. I don't think this
entirely fair and I'd respectfully invite the IR Manager to have an other
look at the string of communications between ourselves.

The IR Manager writes, ....We now understand your request to be for any
information which “identifies a remedy”, i.e. secures the right of the
House of Commons to receive a petition.... This is not my FOI query. I
accept my query includes correspondence of a previous query and indeed
refers to the same but it is a new query.

My new query reads: ....do you hold any information which identifies a
remedy here. I'd imagine this is a new FOI query given that I abandon the
idea of securing direction or making complaint in search of a remedy
outside the prescribed.... That is to say, HofC FOI Team have addressed my
original query in so far as it acknowledges the House holds no information
so, given the same, I seek information on how one secures remedy outside
the prescribed routes. I'd respectfully remind the Team that redirecting
me to the same offices is not helpful. It may be the HofC FOI Team again
holds no information so, as it is obliged to so under section 16 of the
FOI Act, I respectfully request it affords me advice and or assistance.

F.Y.I. Copied below is part of the original 2015 FOI query - Blocked From
Petitioning the House
(some previous references given as : F16-088, F16-440 and, FOI #308442)
....What rules or accommodations protect the interest of the petitioner
and, more importantly, the right of the House to receive a petition, thus
undertake its duty, where the petition, being quite in order and
conforming to prescribed format, does not please the constituency MP. The
same MP refusing to present the petition and blocking others from doing
so. I understand there are two issues here i) disciplining the MP, ii)
securing the right of the House to receive the petition. My question
concerns the latter.....

Regards,
DomenicB
_________________
PREVIOUS CORRESPONDENCE:
_________________

22 September 2017
FOI Commons, House of Commons

Dear Mr Berti,

Freedom of Information Request F17-382

Thank you for your request for information as copied below. We are aware
that you have a long-standing grievance relating to the refusal by your MP
to present a petition to Parliament. We have answered a large number of
your queries related to this matter in a previous WhatDoTheyKnow thread.
We now understand your request to be for any information which “identifies
a remedy”, i.e. secures the right of the House of Commons to receive a
petition.

Based on the lengthy and detailed previous correspondence we have had with
you on this very issue, we are refusing your request in accordance with
our rights under section 14 (2) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
This section states that “where a public authority has previously
complied with a request for information which was made by any person, it
is not obliged to comply with a subsequent identical or substantially
similar request from that person”.

We have already advised you that we hold no recorded information obliging
Members of Parliament to present constituent’s petitions, or detailing how
the House of Commons secures its right to receive petitions. We
previously informed you that it is the Procedure Committee which considers
the practice and procedure of the House in the conduct of public business,
and invited you to contact them to make a case for your position. We have
also provided you with considerable information about our complaints
procedures as a route to airing your dissatisfaction on this matter.

We have concluded that we have exhausted all help and assistance we can
give you on this matter over the last two years and I must inform you that
any further requests for information that you make to this department will
be reviewed by officials on receipt, and if we consider that section 14(2)
applies we will not respond to them or enter into any further
correspondence with you on the request(s).

You may, if dissatisfied with the handling of your request, complain to
the House of Commons. Alternatively, if you are dissatisfied with the
outcome of your request you may ask the House of Commons to conduct an
internal review of any decision regarding your request. Complaints or
requests for internal review should be addressed to: Information Rights
and Information Security Service, Research & Information Team, House of
Commons, London SW1A 0AA or [1][House of Commons request email]. Please
ensure
that you specify the full reasons for your complaint or internal review
along with any arguments or points that you wish to make.

If you remain dissatisfied, you may appeal to the Information Commissioner
at Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire SK9 5AF,
[2][3]www.ico.gov.uk.

Yours sincerely,
Information Rights Manager
Information Rights and Information Security (IRIS) Service | House of
Commons
[3][4]cid:image002.jpg@01D02B64.34D76640

_____________________________

ORIGINATING QUERY
19 September 2017 - message Delivered
domenic b

Dear House of Commons,

In December 2015 I made FOI request to the House. On 19 April 2016 you
wrote, “… we interpreted your original question to be about the
interpretation of House Standing Orders which relate to the securing of
the right of the House to receive a Petition. We informed you that this
information was not held. This is because there are no Standing Orders
which state that MPs are obliged to present petitions, or that the House
has a ‘right’ to receive them.”

In June 2016 I sought to identify 'other rules or accommodations'. Since
then, correspondence has been essentially about securing direction. The
latest, July 2017 communication from you explains that, my FOI request has
been answered and ....(you) will not be responding to any further requests
for this information..... So, accordingly, I prepare this new request.
That it helps, I'll copy our previous correspondence.

It is my understanding the correct office would normally be the Speaker of
the House. As you know, I have already approached this office and other
offices of the House. I'd imagine the complaints process is exhausted.

I'm unclear what to do here. I have legitimate grievance but the House is
unable or unwilling to assist me so, I respectfully seek guidance. That is
to say, do you hold any information which identifies a remedy here. I'd
imagine this is a new FOI query given that I abandon the idea of securing
direction or making complaint in search of a remedy outside the
prescribed. I'd also add that, I am not making a ....case for a change in
the rules....

Copied below is my original FOI query:
....What rules or accommodations protect the interest of the petitioner
and, more importantly, the right of the House to receive a petition, thus
undertake its duty where, the petition being quite in order and conforming
to prescribed format, does not please the constituency MP. The same MP
refusing to present the petition and blocking others from doing so. I
understand there are two issues here i) disciplining the MP, ii) securing
the right of the House to receive the petition. My question concerns the
latter.....
(Part of the original 2015 FOI query - Blocked From Petitioning the House)

I'd again ask you kindly note that, I do not wish to, as you put it,
....oblige Member to present a petition to the House.... I understand and
respect MP's discretion in such matters. However, as I also note, ....it
is not up to a member of Parliament to undermine parliamentary procedures
to serve his/her own interests...., especially where the House would wish
to receive the Petition.....

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on
the Internet at this address:
[5]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

[6]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

[ GIVE DETAILS ABOUT YOUR COMPLAINT HERE ]

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on
the Internet at this address:
[7]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

Yours faithfully,

domenic b

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Dear Mr Berti,

 

 

Further to your request for an Internal Review, please find our response
attached.  Please also accept my sincere apologies for the delay in
sending this out to you.

 

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From: domenic b [mailto:[FOI #432983 email]]
Sent: 06 January 2018 19:51
To: FOI Commons <[email address]>
Subject: Internal review of Freedom of Information request - Remedy for
Blocked from Petitioning the House. An FOI Query to the House of Commons,
Sept 2017

 

January 6, 2017

Dear House of Commons Internal Review Team,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information
reviews. I am writing to request an internal review of House of Commons's
handling of my FOI request 'Remedy for Blocked from Petitioning the House.
An FOI Query to the House of Commons, Sept 2017'.

Having secured no response to my request for an Internal Review and not
knowing whether or not it was in fact received, I send you you it again;
hope that's OK. However you choose to deal with it, If you would but
confirm its receipt it would assist me.

I enclose the last message of November 2017

Regards,
DomenicB

__________________________

domenic b 22 November 2017
Delivered
Dear House of Commons Internal Review Team,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information
reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of House of Commons's handling
of my FOI request 'Remedy for Blocked from Petitioning the House. An FOI
Query to the House of Commons, Sept 2017'.

The Information Rights Manager (IR Manager) advises me that s/he is not
going to respond to further communications and invites me to complain. So,
accordingly, I copy you correspondence and ask you kindly deal with my
complaint.

The IR Manager writes, ....it is the Procedure Committee which considers
the practice and procedure of the House in the conduct of public business,
and invited you (me) to contact them to make a case for your (my)
position....

With respect, the prescribed (and exhausted) channels of complaint failed
to work. Redirecting me to the same (whether it be the identified
Procedures Committee or other office) is not helpful; why should its
position change? If its position is to change, I'm not the person to
demand it so; this would be a matter for the House. HofC FOI Team fails to
assist me here.

The IR Manager notes ....lengthy and detailed previous correspondence ....
as a means to refuse to deal with my new query. I don't think this
entirely fair and I'd respectfully invite the IR Manager to have an other
look at the string of communications between ourselves.

The IR Manager writes, ....We now understand your request to be for any
information which “identifies a remedy”, i.e. secures the right of the
House of Commons to receive a petition.... This is not my FOI query. I
accept my query includes correspondence of a previous query and indeed
refers to the same but it is a new query.

My new query reads: ....do you hold any information which identifies a
remedy here. I'd imagine this is a new FOI query given that I abandon the
idea of securing direction or making complaint in search of a remedy
outside the prescribed.... That is to say, HofC FOI Team have addressed my
original query in so far as it acknowledges the House holds no information
so, given the same, I seek information on how one secures remedy outside
the prescribed routes. I'd respectfully remind the Team that redirecting
me to the same offices is not helpful. It may be the HofC FOI Team again
holds no information so, as it is obliged to so under section 16 of the
FOI Act, I respectfully request it affords me advice and or assistance.

F.Y.I. Copied below is part of the original 2015 FOI query - Blocked From
Petitioning the House
(some previous references given as : F16-088, F16-440 and, FOI #308442)
....What rules or accommodations protect the interest of the petitioner
and, more importantly, the right of the House to receive a petition, thus
undertake its duty, where the petition, being quite in order and
conforming to prescribed format, does not please the constituency MP. The
same MP refusing to present the petition and blocking others from doing
so. I understand there are two issues here i) disciplining the MP, ii)
securing the right of the House to receive the petition. My question
concerns the latter.....

Regards,
DomenicB
_________________
PREVIOUS CORRESPONDENCE:
_________________

22 September 2017
FOI Commons, House of Commons

Dear Mr Berti,

Freedom of Information Request F17-382

Thank you for your request for information as copied below. We are aware
that you have a long-standing grievance relating to the refusal by your MP
to present a petition to Parliament. We have answered a large number of
your queries related to this matter in a previous WhatDoTheyKnow thread.
We now understand your request to be for any information which “identifies
a remedy”, i.e. secures the right of the House of Commons to receive a
petition.

Based on the lengthy and detailed previous correspondence we have had with
you on this very issue, we are refusing your request in accordance with
our rights under section 14 (2) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
This section states that “where a public authority has previously
complied with a request for information which was made by any person, it
is not obliged to comply with a subsequent identical or substantially
similar request from that person”.

We have already advised you that we hold no recorded information obliging
Members of Parliament to present constituent’s petitions, or detailing how
the House of Commons secures its right to receive petitions. We
previously informed you that it is the Procedure Committee which considers
the practice and procedure of the House in the conduct of public business,
and invited you to contact them to make a case for your position. We have
also provided you with considerable information about our complaints
procedures as a route to airing your dissatisfaction on this matter.

We have concluded that we have exhausted all help and assistance we can
give you on this matter over the last two years and I must inform you that
any further requests for information that you make to this department will
be reviewed by officials on receipt, and if we consider that section 14(2)
applies we will not respond to them or enter into any further
correspondence with you on the request(s).

You may, if dissatisfied with the handling of your request, complain to
the House of Commons. Alternatively, if you are dissatisfied with the
outcome of your request you may ask the House of Commons to conduct an
internal review of any decision regarding your request. Complaints or
requests for internal review should be addressed to: Information Rights
and Information Security Service, Research & Information Team, House of
Commons, London SW1A 0AA or [1][House of Commons request email]. Please
ensure
that you specify the full reasons for your complaint or internal review
along with any arguments or points that you wish to make.

If you remain dissatisfied, you may appeal to the Information Commissioner
at Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire SK9 5AF,
[2][3]www.ico.gov.uk.

Yours sincerely,
Information Rights Manager
Information Rights and Information Security (IRIS) Service | House of
Commons
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_____________________________

ORIGINATING QUERY
19 September 2017 - message Delivered
domenic b

Dear House of Commons,

In December 2015 I made FOI request to the House. On 19 April 2016 you
wrote, “… we interpreted your original question to be about the
interpretation of House Standing Orders which relate to the securing of
the right of the House to receive a Petition. We informed you that this
information was not held. This is because there are no Standing Orders
which state that MPs are obliged to present petitions, or that the House
has a ‘right’ to receive them.”

In June 2016 I sought to identify 'other rules or accommodations'. Since
then, correspondence has been essentially about securing direction. The
latest, July 2017 communication from you explains that, my FOI request has
been answered and ....(you) will not be responding to any further requests
for this information..... So, accordingly, I prepare this new request.
That it helps, I'll copy our previous correspondence.

It is my understanding the correct office would normally be the Speaker of
the House. As you know, I have already approached this office and other
offices of the House. I'd imagine the complaints process is exhausted.

I'm unclear what to do here. I have legitimate grievance but the House is
unable or unwilling to assist me so, I respectfully seek guidance. That is
to say, do you hold any information which identifies a remedy here. I'd
imagine this is a new FOI query given that I abandon the idea of securing
direction or making complaint in search of a remedy outside the
prescribed. I'd also add that, I am not making a ....case for a change in
the rules....

Copied below is my original FOI query:
....What rules or accommodations protect the interest of the petitioner
and, more importantly, the right of the House to receive a petition, thus
undertake its duty where, the petition being quite in order and conforming
to prescribed format, does not please the constituency MP. The same MP
refusing to present the petition and blocking others from doing so. I
understand there are two issues here i) disciplining the MP, ii) securing
the right of the House to receive the petition. My question concerns the
latter.....
(Part of the original 2015 FOI query - Blocked From Petitioning the House)

I'd again ask you kindly note that, I do not wish to, as you put it,
....oblige Member to present a petition to the House.... I understand and
respect MP's discretion in such matters. However, as I also note, ....it
is not up to a member of Parliament to undermine parliamentary procedures
to serve his/her own interests...., especially where the House would wish
to receive the Petition.....

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on
the Internet at this address:
[5]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

[6]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

[ GIVE DETAILS ABOUT YOUR COMPLAINT HERE ]

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on
the Internet at this address:
[7]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

Yours faithfully,

domenic b

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March 2018

Dear FOI Commons,

Thank you for your response.

I think it may be worth recalling some facts: my constituency MP declined to present my petition so, I approached other MPs. After receiving draft copy of petition, a second MP agreed to present it. Some how, my constituency MP learned of this and communicated with the second MP. I learned this occurred because the second MP wrote to me and explained my consistency MP had changed his mind and now wished to present the petition. This was a lie: my constituency MP sought but to take the petition away from the second MP in order to trash it. That's to say (and in answer to your question about petition content) the constituency MP preferred to block my petition because it exposes racism and inhumane treatment in a local hospital. F.Y.I. the second MP as I, are not white.

I've copied part your response here: ..it is the Procedure Committee that makes proposals on changes to the procedures of the House. The FOI team have explained that as the current rules do not provide a remedy, that an alternative course could be to make a case to have the rules changed by writing to the Committee. This is not the same as making a complaint about a Member refusing to submit a petition. As we have already stated, the Procedure Committee can be contacted at..

As explained, I've already communicated with the Procedures Committee*. In any event, does one really need to 'make a case' here? I would have thought the right of the House to receive petition is basic. Does the House require specific rule to ensure it receives a petition where it may displease an MP? Of course a constituency MP may prefer that some things not exposed; this is one of the reasons the House accepts petitions presented by other MPs.

F.Y.I. I copy the originating FOI query here:
'Blocked from petitioning the House' ..What rules or accommodations protect the interest of the petitioner and more importantly, the right of the House to receive a petition thus undertake its duty where, the petition, being quite in order and conforming to prescribed format, does not please the constituency MP. The same MP refusing to present it and blocking others from doing so. I understand there are two issues here i) disciplining the MP, ii) securing the right of the House to receive the petition. My question concerns the latter..

*Any further claim to or complaint against the Procedures Committee or other office would need to be escalated so, would you kindly identify where one would direct it?

Without means to present petition I call on the House to identify means to a remedy. If not your office, where does one direct such FOI query?

Yours sincerely,

domenic b

enc. copy of your message March 6

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6 March 2018

Dear Mr Berti,

F17-382 Freedom of Information Request – Internal Review

You requested an internal review of the House of Common’s handling of your
recent Freedom of Information requests, which were assigned the reference F17-
382.  This internal review has now been completed and I am writing to you now
to let you know of its outcome.

In my view, you have been given entirely appropriate and accurate advice about
the petitioning process: there is no remedy or redress for a person who wants
their MP to present a petition if the MP does not want to do it.
From the correspondence between you and the FOI team, it seems to me that
they have helpfully addressed your revised query about whether the House holds
any information that identifies a remedy. They have said that you can either try
to persuade another Member to submit the petition or make a case to have the
rules changed.

On the first, there is nothing to stop you doing asking another Member, although
other Members will not be obliged to submit it, and as mentioned in the
correspondence, there is a non-binding convention that Members will not submit
petitions from other Members’ constituents.

On the second, it is the Procedure Committee that makes proposals on changes
to the procedures of the House. The FOI team have explained that as the current
rules do not provide a remedy, that an alternative course could be to make a
case to have the rules changed by writing to the Committee. This is not the
same as making a complaint about a Member refusing to submit a petition. As
we have already stated, the Procedure Committee can be contacted at
[email address].

The Procedure Committee looked at petitions during its inquiry into proposals for
an e-petitions system 1 . This restated that:
“the paper petition system, on the other hand, is designed specifically for
petitions addressed to the House of Commons. As such it is a route directly to
the floor of the House, via a particular Member of Parliament — usually the lead
petitioner’s constituency MP - and retains that important link with an individual
Member…”

I have not seen detail in the correspondence about the petition you wish to
submit. It might be suitable for submission as an e-petition. You would need to
gather five more supporters before it could be accepted, as well as meeting
other criteria set out at: https://petition.parliament.uk/help
There is no other information that we hold about identifying other remedies for
this issue.
 
I have concluded that your requests were handled appropriately and within the
requirements of the Freedom of Information Act 2000. However, if you remain
dissatisfied, you may appeal to the Information Commissioner at Wycliffe House,
Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire SK9 5AF, www.ico.gov.uk.
Yours sincerely,

Penny Young
House of Commons Librarian

INFORMATION RIGHTS AND INFORMATION SECURITY (IRIS) SERVICE
HOUSE OF COMMONS LONDON SW1A 0AA
TELEPHONE: 020 7219 2740 Text relay: 18001 020 219 2740 E-MAIL: [email address]

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Dear Mr Berti,

 

 

With reference to your further email copied below, we now consider this
matter closed.  If you still wish to complain about the handling of your
requests, we can only reiterate your right to complain to the Information
Commissioner’s Office.

 

We can take no further action and there is no other public authority you
could contact that could help you further.  We will not be entering into
any other debate or conversation and any further emails from you on this
matter are unlikely to be answered.

 

However, if you require recorded information held by the House of Commons
relating to any other subject, please contact us at
[1][House of Commons request email].

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

         
Abigail Richmond | Information Rights Manager
Information Rights and Information Security (IRIS) Service | House of
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From: domenic b [mailto:[FOI #432983 email]]
Sent: 19 March 2018 14:10
To: FOI Commons <[email address]>
Subject: Internal review of Freedom of Information request - Remedy for
Blocked from Petitioning the House. An FOI Query to the House of Commons,
Sept 2017

 

March 2018

Dear FOI Commons,

Thank you for your response.

I think it may be worth recalling some facts: my constituency MP declined
to present my petition so, I approached other MPs. After receiving draft
copy of petition, a second MP agreed to present it. Some how, my
constituency MP learned of this and communicated with the second MP. I
learned this occurred because the second MP wrote to me and explained my
consistency MP had changed his mind and now wished to present the
petition. This was a lie: my constituency MP sought but to take the
petition away from the second MP in order to trash it. That's to say (and
in answer to your question about petition content) the constituency MP
preferred to block my petition because it exposes racism and inhumane
treatment in a local hospital. F.Y.I. the second MP as I, are not white.

I've copied part your response here: ..it is the Procedure Committee that
makes proposals on changes to the procedures of the House. The FOI team
have explained that as the current rules do not provide a remedy, that an
alternative course could be to make a case to have the rules changed by
writing to the Committee. This is not the same as making a complaint about
a Member refusing to submit a petition. As we have already stated, the
Procedure Committee can be contacted at..

As explained, I've already communicated with the Procedures Committee*. In
any event, does one really need to 'make a case' here? I would have
thought the right of the House to receive petition is basic. Does the
House require specific rule to ensure it receives a petition where it may
displease an MP? Of course a constituency MP may prefer that some things
not exposed; this is one of the reasons the House accepts petitions
presented by other MPs.

F.Y.I. I copy the originating FOI query here:
'Blocked from petitioning the House' ..What rules or accommodations
protect the interest of the petitioner and more importantly, the right of
the House to receive a petition thus undertake its duty where, the
petition, being quite in order and conforming to prescribed format, does
not please the constituency MP. The same MP refusing to present it and
blocking others from doing so. I understand there are two issues here i)
disciplining the MP, ii) securing the right of the House to receive the
petition. My question concerns the latter..

*Any further claim to or complaint against the Procedures Committee or
other office would need to be escalated so, would you kindly identify
where one would direct it?

Without means to present petition I call on the House to identify means to
a remedy. If not your office, where does one direct such FOI query?

Yours sincerely,

domenic b

enc. copy of your message March 6

-------

6 March 2018

Dear Mr Berti,

F17-382 Freedom of Information Request – Internal Review

You requested an internal review of the House of Common’s handling of your
recent Freedom of Information requests, which were assigned the reference
F17-
382.  This internal review has now been completed and I am writing to you
now
to let you know of its outcome.

In my view, you have been given entirely appropriate and accurate advice
about
the petitioning process: there is no remedy or redress for a person who
wants
their MP to present a petition if the MP does not want to do it.
From the correspondence between you and the FOI team, it seems to me that
they have helpfully addressed your revised query about whether the House
holds
any information that identifies a remedy. They have said that you can
either try
to persuade another Member to submit the petition or make a case to have
the
rules changed.

On the first, there is nothing to stop you doing asking another Member,
although
other Members will not be obliged to submit it, and as mentioned in the
correspondence, there is a non-binding convention that Members will not
submit
petitions from other Members’ constituents.

On the second, it is the Procedure Committee that makes proposals on
changes
to the procedures of the House. The FOI team have explained that as the
current
rules do not provide a remedy, that an alternative course could be to make
a
case to have the rules changed by writing to the Committee. This is not
the
same as making a complaint about a Member refusing to submit a petition.
As
we have already stated, the Procedure Committee can be contacted at
[4][email address].

The Procedure Committee looked at petitions during its inquiry into
proposals for
an e-petitions system 1 . This restated that:
“the paper petition system, on the other hand, is designed specifically
for
petitions addressed to the House of Commons. As such it is a route
directly to
the floor of the House, via a particular Member of Parliament — usually
the lead
petitioner’s constituency MP - and retains that important link with an
individual
Member…”

I have not seen detail in the correspondence about the petition you wish
to
submit. It might be suitable for submission as an e-petition. You would
need to
gather five more supporters before it could be accepted, as well as
meeting
other criteria set out at: [5]https://petition.parliament.uk/help
There is no other information that we hold about identifying other
remedies for
this issue.
 
I have concluded that your requests were handled appropriately and within
the
requirements of the Freedom of Information Act 2000. However, if you
remain
dissatisfied, you may appeal to the Information Commissioner at Wycliffe
House,
Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire SK9 5AF, [6]www.ico.gov.uk.
Yours sincerely,

Penny Young
House of Commons Librarian

INFORMATION RIGHTS AND INFORMATION SECURITY (IRIS) SERVICE
HOUSE OF COMMONS LONDON SW1A 0AA
TELEPHONE: 020 7219 2740 Text relay: 18001 020 219 2740 E-MAIL:
[7][email address]

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Dear FOI Commons,

Thanks for your message. I'm not sure redirecting this to the ICO is appropriate: you've explained the information does not exist.

As a general query: with reference to HofC letter of March 6 2018, ref F17-382, para 4. If I choose to follow this advice (asking an other MP) but find the same difficulty* persists, what does the House do? and/or what should I do?
*one MP dishonestly discouraging an other from presenting a petition.

Yours faithfully,

domenic b

Dear FOI Commons,

I'm sending this again having secured no response. Please note: It is understood you consider this query closed; I am not revisiting it. I do however have general query for your very kind attention:

with reference to HofC letter of March 6 2018, ref F17-382, para 4. If I choose to follow this advice (ask an other MP to present petition) but find the same difficulty persists*, what does the House do? and/or what should I do?
*one MP dishonestly discouraging an other from presenting a petition.

Yours faithfully,
domenic b

Dear FOI Commons,

I'm sending this again (second time) having secured no response:

It is understood you consider this query closed; I am not revisiting it. I do however have general query for your very kind attention: with reference to HofC letter of March 6 2018, ref F17-382, para 4. If I choose to follow this advice (ask an other MP to present petition) but find the same difficulty persists*, what does the House do? and/or what should I do?
*one MP dishonestly discouraging an other from presenting a petition.

Yours faithfully,
domenic b

Dear House of Commons,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of House of Commons's handling of my FOI request 'Remedy for Blocked from Petitioning the House. An FOI Query to the House of Commons, Sept 2017'.

Having not secured response, re-sending my message for Internal Review:
1 August 2018
domenic b
Dear FOI Commons,
I'm sending this again (second time) having secured no response:
It is understood you consider this query closed; I am not revisiting it. I do however have general query for your very kind attention: with reference to HofC letter of March 6 2018, ref F17-382, para 4. If I choose to follow this advice (ask an other MP to present petition) but find the same difficulty persists*, what does the House do? and/or what should I do?
*one MP dishonestly discouraging an other from presenting a petition.
Yours faithfully,
domenic b

Also, would you kindly confirm whether or not at any time, the PCS was identified as the correct avenue for complaint?

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

Yours faithfully,
domenic b

18 Jan 2019

Dear House of Commons,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

Having again not secured response, I am writing to request an internal review of House of Commons's handling of my FOI request 'Remedy for Blocked from Petitioning the House. An FOI Query to the House of Commons, Sept 2017'.

(originally sent, 1 August and 25 September 2018)
Dear FOI Commons,
I'm sending this again having secured no response: It is understood you consider this query closed; I am not revisiting it. I do however have general query for your very kind attention: with reference to HofC letter of March 6 2018, ref F17-382, para 4: if I choose to follow this advice (ask an other MP to present petition) but find the same difficulty persists*, what does the House do? and/or what should I do?
*one MP dishonestly discouraging an other from presenting a petition....
Also, would you kindly confirm whether or not at any time the PCS was identified as the correct avenue for complaint?
Yours faithfully..

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

Yours faithfully,
domenic b

Dear FOI Commons,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

Having again not secured response, I am writing to request an internal review of House of Commons's handling of my FOI request 'Remedy for Blocked from Petitioning the House. An FOI Query to the House of Commons, Sept 2017'.

(originally sent, 1 August and resent several occasions)
Dear FOI Commons,
I'm sending this again having secured no response: It is understood you consider this query closed; I am not revisiting it. I do however have general query for your very kind attention: with reference to HofC letter of March 6 2018, ref F17-382, para 4: if I choose to follow this advice (ask an other MP to present petition) but find the same difficulty persists*, what does the House do? and/or what should I do?
*one MP dishonestly discouraging an other from presenting a petition....
Also, would you kindly confirm whether or not at any time the PCS was identified as the correct avenue for complaint?
Yours faithfully..

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

Yours faithfully,
domenic b