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Dear Department of Health and Social Care,

Please explain why the department believes that it is lawful to have a £4 million programme for FGM?

Yours faithfully,

Joe Jordan

Our ref: DE-1142476
Dear Mr Jordan, 
Thank you for your recent correspondence about female genital mutilation
(FGM). I have been asked to reply.
I appreciate your concerns.
NHS professionals have a critical role in safeguarding women and girls
against FGM. The Department of Health and Social Care’s £4million FGM
prevention programme with NHS England continues its work to improve the
response to FGM by collecting data to understand the scale of the problem.
We provide guidance and training to support NHS staff, and raise awareness
so that together we can protect those at risk, provide support to
survivors and ultimately end this crime once and for all.
In England, the Government has no plans to change the law in relation to
male circumcision. However, mutilation of the male genitalia, other than
circumcision and legitimate body piercing, could in some circumstances be
covered by laws that cover offences against the person.
Non-therapeutic circumcision is not routinely carried out by the NHS,
which normally performs circumcision for medical reasons only. The
Department of Health and Social Care agrees with the General Medical
Council (GMC), the British Medical Association (BMA) and the British
Association of Paediatric Surgeons that the welfare of infants who are
circumcised must be paramount, whatever the reason for undertaking the
procedure. Any medical procedure must be undertaken in hygienic
conditions, with appropriate pain relief and aftercare. In some areas
clinical commissioning groups, particularly where they feel children are
at risk of unsafe procedures, will work with local providers and
communities to ensure that a safe and affordable service is available.
Male circumcision, where it is carried out by a healthcare professional,
is regulated by the Care Quality Commission and included under the
regulated activity of surgical procedures.
I hope this reply is helpful.
Yours sincerely, 
Briony Ellis 
Ministerial Correspondence and Public Enquiries 
Department of Health and Social Care
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Dear Department of Health and Social Care,

Under what law is the NHS using to waste money on this low amount of real female circumcision?

I also believe that the NHS is using false data points to up the "numbers" of women that could fall under FGM. As it has been known that the NHS and in turn the Government is including numbers of women that have got 'accessorising' themselves.

I don't believe it is lawful for money that belongs to the public for all of the public to benefit from should be used on a subject that does not really exist. And for it to be used for NON Citizens (and to treat women that had it done overseas). When the government and even yourselves believe that it is perfectly fine to cut off the "same" bit of skin off a male but not the female.

To your point "We provide guidance and training to support NHS staff, and raise awareness
so that together we can protect those at risk, provide support to
survivors and ultimately end this crime once and for all. "
It is not up to the tax payers to support these so called victims that in most cases the event happened to a non citizen and happened in their home country. Also why do you believe FGM a crime but MGM is not. When it is the same type of skin being removed in both events, and the results are near the same. I have not found any cases of girls or women being killed as a result of FGM, but have found a number of cases of boys being murdered because of sudo doctors/medical staff cutting a part of the body off that they have no reason to.

Yours faithfully,

Joe Jordan

Our ref: DE-1146896 

   

Dear Mr Jordan,  
   
Thank you for your further correspondence of 28 August about female
genital mutilation.  I have been asked to reply.  
 

I note that you have written to the Department of Health and Social Care
previously on a number of occasions about this issue and I am afraid that
there is nothing further that I can add. 

 

I am sorry if this is not the reply that you were hoping for, but as there
is nothing further that the Department can add, we must now consider this
matter to be closed.  Unless you raise a new question, any further letters
sent to the Department will be logged but may not receive a reply. 

 
Yours sincerely,  
   
Briony Ellis  
Ministerial Correspondence and Public Enquiries 
Department of Health and Social Care 

  

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Dear Department of Health and Social Care,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Department of Health and Social Care's handling of my FOI request '£4million FGM prevention programme'.

YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED THE REQUESTED INFORMATION. ITS A SIMPLE QUESTION THAT MUST BE ANSWERED!!!!!!!!!

WHAT LAW ARE YOU USING TO WASTE PUBLIC MONEY ON FGM???????

You are unlawfully using public money for women that have had this treatment carried out not within the UK as such you are not legally permitted to waste public money in such a way.

You are also creating false data regarding FGM in which you include data from women that are adults that have modifications carried out in that area. I can only say that you are doing this to ensure that you can claim that FGM is a real thing to allow you to spend and waste public money on non CITIZENS that have no right to treatment in this country. This is of course unless it is life-threatening or that it would affect citizens such as an virus that could cause an outbreak.

If the FGM did not take place within the borders of this country then who cares. IT IS NOT FOR THE NHS OR THE TAX PAYERS TO PROVIDE TREATMENT AND SUPPORT.

Please provide what was asked for or I will be forced to report yourselves to the ICO.

If MPs or staff within the NHS wants to carry out this then, they should PAY for it themselves out of their own pocket not coming out of tax payers pockets.

It is the NATIONAL Health Service not the world health service.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/p...

Yours faithfully,

Joe Jordan

Dear Department of Health and Social Care,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Department of Health and Social Care's handling of my FOI request '£4million FGM prevention programme'.

It is clear that your department is unlawfully using tax payers money on a non issue. You have no rights under law to use money to help non citizens with the outcome of have FGM outside the UK. Doing so is breaching British Citizens human rights as treatment is refused and people have died due to no money in the system. As far as I am concerned, women that have been circumcised can suffer as men that have had the same thing done to them also suffer with no help from the NHS.

You would need to give me all of the data, as previous commented it is publicly known that the NHS in lines with the Home Office creates false data to ensure that can made this issue to appear worst then it is.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/p...

Yours faithfully,

Joe Jordan

FreedomofInformation, Department of Health and Social Care

Dear Mr Jordan,

Thank you for your email of 29 December, requesting an internal review of your correspondence dated 24 July (our ref: DE-1142476). I apologise for the delay in replying.

Requests for internal reviews should be submitted within two months of the date of receipt of the response to your original email. The Department responded to your request on 17 August and your request for an internal review was received on 29 December. As more than four months have passed, I will not be conducting an internal review.

You may wish to complain directly to the Information Commissioner (ICO), who may decide to investigate your concerns. You should raise your concerns with them within three months of your last meaningful contact with us. The ICO can be contacted at:

The Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow SK9 5AF

https://ico.org.uk/concerns

If you wish to make a new Freedom of Information request, you may do so at the following link:

https://contactus.dh.gov.uk

Yours sincerely,

Charlene Carter
Freedom of Information
Department of Health and Social Care
39 Victoria Street, London SW1H 0EU

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