Proportion of former Police Officers acting as IOPC Investigation Officers

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Colin Alvin Rimmer

Dear Independent Office for Police Conduct,

In the interests of establishing whether the IOPC is truly independent of the Police :-

Please can you confirm the proportion of IOPC complaint investigation officers who previously held positions in a Police authority of ANY kind, e.g. Metropolitan Police, Serious Fraud Office, City of London Police, or any other specialist or local Police authority.

Please break the statistics down in terms of IOPC complaint investigation officers who were former Police Officers, and IOPC complaint investigation officers who worked for the Police in a civilian capacity, but were not Police Officers.

As an example, I would specify a Police Officer working in forensics or as a financial transaction analyst to still qualify as a Police Officer, whereas an admin assistant or switchboard operator clearly wouldn't.

Please note that I am not interested in IOPC staff that play no part in assessing complaints against the Police.

Yours faithfully,

Colin Alvin Rimmer

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Dear Mr Rimmer

Thank you for your email.

Information about the policing backgrounds of IOPC staff is published in our staff diversity report which is available on our web site using this link: https://policeconduct.gov.uk/sites/defau...

This is our report for the year 19/20. The tables relevant to your request are on pages 11 to 16. Our career background data is separated between 'ex-police officer', 'ex-police civilian' and 'ex-police both'. The tables on page 12 and 14 separate this data by IOPC job title.

We expect to publish our report for 20/21 in the next few weeks. We recommend you revisit our web site in late November to see the most up to date report, which will be published on this web page: https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/who-we-...

We hope you find this helpful.

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Dear IOPC FoI & Data Request Team ,

Unfortunately you have NOT answered the specific question that I put to you. If you look back at the original request you will see that I asked for the proportion (percentage) of Police complaint investigation officers that came from a background in the Police as officers of some description (but not civilian, admin, call centre or clerical staff). The figures you have provided in your report are a percentage of the total IOPC workforce, which is not at all what I requested.

By way of example, what I am after is something along these lines :-

Out of the 1024 staff at the IOPC today, there are 300 active investigators who assess and make judgements on potential Police misconduct cases. Out of those 300 investigation officers, 120 (40%) held former positions as Police Officers, and 5% of the investigation officers previously held civilian positions at the Police.

It would of course be instructive to know how those figures have changed over time and to see which direction the trend is heading (i.e. More or less former Police Officers holding positions as IOPC investigators.

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Please find attached our response to your request for internal review.

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Dear Gemma Thomson,

Thank you for your response

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In addition, there is no presumption under the 1 February 2022 GDPR that openness and transparency should take priority over personal privacy. Since FOIA disclosures are made to ‘the world at large’ the IOPC would be prepared to comply with your request only if we could justify publishing this information on our web site. Other than in respect of its most senior staff, the IOPC does not publish information about its employees as this would clearly be contrary to their reasonable expectations. We conclude that your request does not identify a necessary justification for compliance with our FOIA duties in respect of this personal data. In reaching our decision, we have taken into account guidance from the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) on responding to FOIA requests for personal information about public employees. In particular we consider there is greater expectation of privacy in relation to less senior roles because such posts would not be expected to carry a level of accountability that would require the disclosure of significant personal details. It is also relevant that relatively few members of our staff occupy public facing roles in the sense of carrying responsibility for explaining the policies or actions of the public authority to the outside world, as would be the case for a member of the IOPC’s senior management team. This is why we publish details of our staff on a selective basis only. It may be possible to justify the release of the confirmation you require if it was likely that the decision making in question was affected by the individuals’ background and there were no measures in place to mitigate the risk of any bias or other deficiency on the part of IOPC employees. 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Colin Alvin Rimmer

Dear IOPC FoI Processor,

There is a strong public interest argument for knowing why the IOPC are dismissing cases that have a case to answer and showing unbridled bias towards protecting crooked Police officers who smear victims of fraud

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Yours sincerely,

Colin Alvin Rimmer

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Colin Alvin Rimmer

Dear Independent Office for Police Conduct,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Independent Office for Police Conduct's handling of my FOI request 'Proportion of former Police Officers acting as IOPC Investigation Officers'.

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A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/p...

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Dear IOPC FoI Officer,

The IOPC has perverted justice and the disciplinary process by failing to uphold a complaint that evidenced collusion between the Met Police and the SRA.

The Judicial Review is NOT a viable nor affordable means of challenging an illicit decision made by the IOPC, or any other public body for that matter, because it is beyond the means of the vast majority of UK citizens.

In an SRA consultation held in 2020, the SRA confirmed that 66% of the population have savings of less than £5,000 ; and that was before the pandemic. There is now rampant inflation and escalating energy costs. The effect of these matters combined means that the percentage quoted will have risen appreciably, meaning that the vast majority of the population do not have savings of £5,000, and are already living hand to mouth.

A Judicial Review could cost a person £25,000 , maybe more, so clearly it is beyond the means of the vast majority of the public - it is therefore neither a viable nor a practicable means of challenging an illicit decision made by a public body ; I think that this is precisely how the Government want things to remain. Public bodies simply don't want the public to have any ability to challenge their dubious decisions and their dubious protection of individuals who are culpable of wrongdoing.

This one page document explains why the Judicial Review facility is redundant to the public.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1k1J1_Pg...

Even if an individual did happen to have a spare £25,000 kicking around, it would be madness to invest it in funding a Judicial Review in relation to challenging a relatively minor groundless decision made by a public body - there would be far more deserving purposes for such a large sum of money. More to the point, such is the level of corruption in the Government, its quangos, and regulatory authorities, it is highly likely that the High Court would be prejudiced towards protecting the authorities rather than acting in the public interest.

For the reasons, I would never consider bringing a Judicial Review. I have absolutely zero confidence in the justice system, zero confidence in solicitors (having been defrauded by SRA regulated solicitors), zero confidence in their regulator (the SRA - which covered up the fraud from the outset), nor the Metropolitan Police, which has made no arrests in over 7 years despite incontrovertible evidence of fraud and money laundering.

A fair synopsis of the situation is that the Government and its authorities are patently CORRUPT because they are all actively engaged in concealing criminality and obstructing justice against fraud [potentially defamatory material removed]

Yours sincerely,

Colin Rimmer

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