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Dear University College London,
Please could I request the predicted grades for each successful applicant for the course Biological Science along with the predicted grades for each successful applicant for the course Pharmacy. Additionally could you write the GCSEs grades. Are GCSEs grades at an 8/9 valued the same as an A* for UCL?

Yours faithfully,
Pooja

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Dear Pooja,

Thank you for your request.

To enable us to proceed could you please provide your full name as per
Section 8(1)(b) of FOIA which requires that a request for information must
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Dear Finance.FOI Requests,

My full name is Pooja Sanghar

Yours sincerely,

Pooja Sanghar

Finance.FOI Requests, University College London

Dear Pooja,

Thank you for your email.

Before we can proceed with your request we require some clarification. Please note that the timeframe for your request is on hold until we receive the clarification required to enable us to begin gathering information.

- Please confirm the academic year(s) you want data from regarding the predicted grades of successful applicants

- Is your request for predicted grades related to A-Levels? Please note that we are not able to provide you with the A-Level grades of individual applicants because this constitutes their personal data. We may be able to provide the average A-Level grades of successful applicants though, would you like us to gather this data?

Kind regards,

Rowan Glover-Perrett
Data Protection and Freedom of Information Administrator
Data Protection Office
Office of the General Counsel
University College London
 
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Dear Finance.FOI Requests,
Thank you so much for your response.

Please could I have the data for the last 3 years.

My request is for the predicted grades related to the A-Levels when applying. Please could I instead have a proportion of the people who got in from cohort with A*AA, A*A*A and A*A*A* and AAA. Individual statistics do not need to be given, please could I also have the average A-level grades predictions of successful applicants.

Many thanks,
Pooja Sanghar

Finance.FOI Requests, University College London

Dear Pooja,

Thank you for the clarification you've provided.

To ensure there is no ambiguity in the data we provide, could you please confirm what is meant by "the people who got in" - does this mean those who received an offer, those who enrolled or something else?

Please also confirm if this information is still required: "Additionally could you write the GCSEs grades. Are GCSEs grades at an 8/9 valued the same as an A* for UCL?". If it is still required, please confirm which applicants/students you require the GCSE grades of.

Kind regards,

Rowan Glover-Perrett
Data Protection and Freedom of Information Administrator
Data Protection Office
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University College London

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Dear Finance.FOI Requests,

Thank you for your email.
Please could the data be given for the people of the course Biological Science who achieved an offer for the last 3 years.

Please could I have the GCSE grades of an applicant who achieved an offer for the last 3 years.

Yours sincerely,

Pooja Sanghar

Dear Finance.FOI Requests,

Thank you for your past emails.
Please could I have an update on the information available if possible.

Yours sincerely,

Pooja Sanghar

Finance.FOI Requests, University College London

Dear Pooja,

Thank you for your email.

We are actively processing your request and will respond as soon as possible. To ensure that we are providing the information you require, could you also please confirm if the Biological Science course you have asked about is C900 Biological Sciences BSc?

Kind regards,

Rowan Glover-Perrett
Data Protection and Freedom of Information Administrator
Data Protection Office
Office of the General Counsel
University College London

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Dear Finance.FOI Requests,
Thank you for your email.
Yes, it is the biological sciences course C900.

Yours sincerely,

Pooja Sanghar

Dear Finance.FOI Requests,

Thank you for your past emails.
Unfortunately as it has been more than 20 days please could I have an update on the information. It has been more than a month since the request has been sent out.

Yours sincerely,

Pooja Sanghar

Finance.FOI Requests, University College London

Dear Pooja,

Thank you for your email. I apologise for the delay in the provision of our response.

We are actively working on your request and are in the final stages of preparing our response. We aim to respond to you by the end of this week.

Kind regards,

Rowan Glover-Perrett
Data Protection and Freedom of Information Adviser
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Finance.FOI Requests, University College London

Dear Pooja,

Thank you for your request for information made under the Freedom of
Information Act (FOIA) 2000. I apologise for the delay in the provision of
this response.

We confirm that we hold information of the description specified in your
request.

Your request and our response

Please could I request the predicted grades for each successful applicant
for the course Biological Science along with the predicted grades for each
successful applicant for the course Pharmacy. Additionally could you write
the GCSEs grades. Please could I have the data for the last 3 years.

The information that you have requested concerns the predicted A level and
GCSE grades of applicants. Based on our preliminary assessment, we
estimate that to comply with your request would exceed the appropriate
costs limit under section 12 of the Freedom of information Act 2000, which
is currently set at £450 (equivalent to 18 hours work) by virtue of the
Freedom of Information and Data Protection (Appropriate Limit and Fees)
Regulations 2004.

 

This is because we estimate that to locate, retrieve and extract this
information would take longer than 18 hours to complete. UCL receives a
large quantity of applications for each of the above courses per year and
these applications are not categorised by specific predicted grades. This
means that to determine which applicants applied with the specific
predicted grades that you have listed would require a manual review of
each applicant’s file. Section 12(1) states that: “Section 1(1) does not
oblige a public authority to comply with a request for information if the
authority estimates that the cost of complying with the request would
exceed the appropriate limit.”

So, in accordance with section 12(1) the Freedom of Information Act 2000
(the Act) this email acts as a Refusal Notice.

 

Are GCSEs grades at an 8/9 valued the same as an A* for UCL?

Please see the information available in the link below. The section “GCSE
and equivalent qualifications” shows the A-Level marks that are equivalent
to each GCSE score.

[1]https://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-studen...

Please could I also have the average A-level grades predictions of
successful applicants.

Mean (average) A-Level grades of offer holders:

  2022 2023 2024
BSc Biological Sciences A*A*A A*AA A*AA
MPharm Pharmacy A*AB ABB ABB

Mean (average) A-Level grades of entrants:

  2022 2023 2024
BSc Biological Sciences A*A*A A*AA A*AA
MPharm Pharmacy A*A*B A*A*B A*A*B

If you have any queries or concerns, please contact me using the details
provided in this letter and including the request reference number. If you
are unhappy with our response to your request and wish to make a complaint
or request a review of our decision, please email [2][email address].
Emails should include the words ‘Internal Review’ in the subject and be
marked For the Attention of the Vice-President (Operations), alternatively
you should write to:

Vice-President (Operations)

University College London

Gower Street

London

WC1E 6BT

 

Please note, complaints and requests for internal review received more
than two months after the initial decision will not be handled. If you are
not content with the outcome of the internal review, you may apply
directly to the Information Commissioner by using the following web
address: [3]www.ico.org.uk/foicomplaints.

You should do this within two months of our final decision. Further
information on the FOIA is available from the Information Commissioner’s
Office:

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

SK9 5AF

0303 123 1113

[4]https://ico.org.uk/

You should do this within two months of our final decision. Further
information on the FOIA is available on the ICO’s website:
[5]https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/offici...

Kind regards,

Rowan Glover-Perrett

Data Protection and Freedom of Information Adviser

Data Protection Office

Office of the General Counsel

University College London

 

Tel:        020 3108 5446 (ext. 55446)

Email:    [6][email address]

 

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Dear Finance.FOI Requests,

Thank you for the quick response. I understand that the data will take too long to extract. Is there a possible way to get the average GCSEs for these courses too for the Biological Science courses, Biomedical Science courses and the Pharmacy courses?

Yours sincerely,

Pooja Sanghar

Finance.FOI Requests, University College London

Dear Pooja,

Thank you for your request for information made under the Freedom of
Information Act (FOIA) 2000. I apologise for the delay in the provision of
this response.

We confirm that we hold information of the description specified in your
request.

Your request

Is there a possible way to get the average GCSEs for these courses too for
the Biological Science courses, Biomedical Science courses and the
Pharmacy courses?

Our response

The information that you have requested concerns the achieved GSCE grades
of applicants. Based on our preliminary assessment, we estimate that to
comply with your request would exceed the appropriate costs limit under
section 12 of the Freedom of information Act 2000, which is currently set
at £450 (equivalent to 18 hours work) by virtue of the Freedom of
Information and Data Protection (Appropriate Limit and Fees) Regulations
2004.

 

This is because we estimate that to locate, retrieve and extract this
information would take longer than 18 hours to complete. UCL receives over
4700 applications in total for the above courses per year and these
applications are not categorised by achieved or average GCSE grades. This
means that, to determine the average GCSE grades for offer holders would
require a manual review of each applicant’s file. Section 12(1) states
that: “Section 12(1) does not oblige a public authority to comply with a
request for information if the authority estimates that the cost of
complying with the request would exceed the appropriate limit.”

So, in accordance with section 12(1) the Freedom of Information Act 2000
this email acts as a Refusal Notice.

 

If you have any queries or concerns, please contact me using the details
provided in this letter and including the request reference number. If you
are unhappy with our response to your request and wish to make a complaint
or request a review of our decision, please email [1][email address].
Emails should include the words ‘Internal Review’ in the subject and be
marked For the Attention of the Vice-President (Operations), alternatively
you should write to:

Vice-President (Operations)

University College London

Gower Street

London

WC1E 6BT

 

Please note, complaints and requests for internal review received more
than two months after the initial decision will not be handled. If you are
not content with the outcome of the internal review, you may apply
directly to the Information Commissioner by using the following web
address: [2]www.ico.org.uk/foicomplaints. You should do this within two
months of our final decision. Further information on the FOIA is available
from the Information Commissioner’s Office:

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

SK9 5AF

0303 123 1113

[3]https://ico.org.uk/

You should do this within two months of our final decision. Further
information on the FOIA is available on the ICO’s website:
[4]https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/offici...

Kind regards,

Fawwaz Noibi

Data Protection and Freedom of Information Administrator

Data Protection Office

Office of the General Counsel

University College London

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Email:    [5][email address]

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