Liz R (Account suspended)

Dear Transport for London,

why are you using plastic tubing to replace gas mains according to the National Grid and Ealing Council?

The pipes should be made of copper according to builders.

Please advise us of all information held regarding the details of the materials used in the piping being used for current gas pipe and gas mains replacement that TFL is responsible for?

There has also been no apology or warnings of works received by tenants here in RBKC, we are putting up with much grief due to exceptional noise of these works and are now horrified to know they will be made of edible plastic.

I'm advised the density of the plastic in not an issue for rodents.

Please send all information you have pertaining to the works in Old Brompton Road area of Earls Court/Kensington.

Yours faithfully,

Liz R

Transport for London

Our Ref : 1007177003

Date : 26.07.2010

Ms L R

[FOI #42458 email]

Dear Ms R

Thank you for your request for information dated 22/07/10 which was
received by Transport for London on 22/07/10. This request will be dealt
with under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

We aim to deal with your request promptly and provide you with a response
by 19/08/10.

In the meantime, if you have any queries or would like to discuss your
request, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact us.

Yours sincerely

Patricia Mitchell

Head of Customer Services, Surface Transport

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If rodents eat plastic pipes then lets recycle plastic for rodent pet-food?

Liz R (Account suspended) left an annotation ()

From Aberdeen Council today

'They will eat their way through cables, plastic, pipe work, plaster, paper, lagging, putty and many other household materials. Mice eat the same food as us, which means they pose a risk to health. Mice droppings are the size of a grain of rice.'

http://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/environm...

Transport for London

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Our Ref: 1007177003/GH

Date: 06.08.2010

Dear Ms R

Thank you for your email received by Transport for London (TfL) on 22 July
2010. You have asked for information about Gas Mains replacement works in
the Old Brompton Road area.

TfL is responsible for the red routes throughout London, which make up the
Transport for London Road Network (TLRN). The majority of other roads are
controlled by the local councils. Old Brompton Road is not part of the
TLRN, and therefore TfL would not be involved in undertaking any road
works on this street. The Royal Borough of Kensington & Chelsea is the
highway authority for this road, and are therefore best placed to advise
you further on any works which are being carried out.

We are aware of a major gas main replacement programme going on in
Cromwell and Brompton Roads (which are both red routes on the TLRN). These
pipes are being installed by National Grid Gas and are their
responsibility. TfL does not install gas pipes on the TLRN; any such
works would be carried out by the relevant gas provider. The regulator
Ofgem and National Grid Gas would be the organisations to advise on what
apparatus may be used in this instance.

I am sorry that you have been referred to TfL in error, and that we are
not able to assist you further on this occasion. I trust this information
clarifies our position, but if you do have any further queries, please
contact Graham Hurt, Correspondence Support Manager – London Streets at
[1][email address] .

If you are not satisfied with this response, please read the attached
help-sheet entitled ‘Your Right to Appeal’.

Yours sincerely

Patricia Mitchell

Head of Customer Services

Transport for London
Surface Transport Customer Services

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Liz R (Account suspended)

Dear Transport for London,

Dear Miss Mitchell

Thank you kindly for this reply that I'll forward to RBKC, who initially informed me TfL is ultimately responsible.

I will forward to journalists to get to the bottom of it as I'm sure nobody wants the wrong materials being used in such an important endeavour, perhaps Ealing Councils' Environment Dept and the National Grid were joking about the materials and/who's responsible?

If RBKC are responsible for contractors as you've said, we need to know who they are and have the contractors written confirmation that the pipes are indeed safe and hopefully not made from plastic.

Yours sincerely,

Elizabeth R

cc. RBKC, Various

Transport for London

 

Thank you for your email.  We can now confirm that this has been
received. 

 

For further information about the Surface Transport Complaints and
Feedback Policy including timescales, please see
[1]http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/about-tf...

 

Problems with roadworks or other street faults? In support of the
Mayor’s Streetworks Code of Conduct to help cut congestion, please
report these issues by visiting
[2]http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/reportas...

 

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Liz R (Account suspended)

Dear Transport for London,

Dear Miss Mitchell

I apologise for disturbing you again today but had to include this addendum to my last missive FYI:

[email address]; [email address]; [email address]
Cc: [email address]; [email address]

Dear All

Thank you for your patience and time.

Correspondence below to and from TfL is self-explanatory. [from this page]

It seems we need 1. Name of contractors 2. Copy of materials used - RBKC would you be so kind as to confirm the name of the contractors working on the site and/ any other contractors involved please?

Yours Sincerely,

Liz R

Liz R (Account suspended) left an annotation ()

From: Ely, Robert: TELS-HwayTraf
> Sent: 22 July 2010 08:33
> To: Highways: ES-HwayTraf
> Subject: RE: Problem Report: Noise roadworks
>
> Hi
>
> I was unable to see any works in progress, after looking at the report in more detail I noticed that this issue is on the TfL network not ours.
>
> Kind Regards
>
>
> Robert Ely / Highways Officer / Highways
>
> The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea
>
> 37 Pembroke Road, London W8 6PW
>
> 0207 341 5249 M: 07875 878899
>
> Email: Robert.ely@rbkc.gov.uk
>
> Website: www.rbkc.gov.uk

Transport for London

Our Ref : 1007177003

Date : 09.08.2010

Ms L R

[FOI #42458 email]

Dear Ms R

Thank you for your request for information dated 06/08/10 which was
received by Transport for London on 06/08/10. This request will be dealt
with under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

We aim to deal with your request promptly and provide you with a response
by 06/09/10.

In the meantime, if you have any queries or would like to discuss your
request, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact us.

Yours sincerely

Patricia Mitchell

Head of Customer Services, Surface Transport

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From: [FOI #42458 email]
To: [email address] <[email address]>
CC:
Sent: 06.08.10 15:02:06
Subject: Re: Freedom of Information request - Plastic Gas Mains in London?

Dear Transport for London,

Dear Miss Mitchell

Thank you kindly for this reply that I'll forward to RBKC, who
initially informed me TfL is ultimately responsible.

I will forward to journalists to get to the bottom of it as I'm
sure nobody wants the wrong materials being used in such an
important endeavour, perhaps Ealing Councils' Environment Dept and
the National Grid were joking about the materials and/who's
responsible?

If RBKC are responsible for contractors as you've said, we need to
know who they are and have the contractors written confirmation
that the pipes are indeed safe and hopefully not made from plastic.

Yours sincerely,

Elizabeth R

cc. RBKC, Various

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Liz R (Account suspended)

Dear Transport for London,

I have received the following reply from the National Grid confirming National Grids partners, are currently working within the Kensington area
replacing the old steal gas mains with new polyethylene pipes.

Here is a link to a book explaining safety and previous explosions using the material mentioned

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=04kb-...

Parker, Philip
National Grid plc

9 August 2010

Dear Ms R,

Thank you for your enquiry to National Grid regarding the
replacement of the gas mains in London. Morrison Utility services, who are
National Grids partners, are currently working within the Kensington area
replacing the old steal gas mains with new polyethylene pipes.

Regards

Philip Parker
Customer Support Advisor
Customer Experience
Customer Services
National Grid
Tel: 0845 605 66 77
Fax: 01604 815288
[email address]
P please consider the environment - do you really need to print this
email?

This e-mail, and any attachments are strictly confidential and intended
for
the addressee(s) only. The content may also contain legal, professional or
other privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,
please
notify the sender immediately and then delete the e-mail and any
attachments. You should not disclose, copy or take any action in reliance
on this transmission.

You may report the matter by calling us on 0800 085 4806.

Yours sincerely,

Liz R

Transport for London

 

Thank you for your email.  We can now confirm that this has been
received. 

 

For further information about the Surface Transport Complaints and
Feedback Policy including timescales, please see
[1]http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/about-tf...

 

Problems with roadworks or other street faults? In support of the
Mayor’s Streetworks Code of Conduct to help cut congestion, please
report these issues by visiting
[2]http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/reportas...

 

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Liz R (Account suspended) left an annotation ()

'Transco fined £15m for gas pipe error that killed family'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/aug/26...

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