Phorm: Meeting on 28 April 2009

P. John made this Freedom of Information request to Cabinet Office

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Waiting for an internal review by Cabinet Office of their handling of this request.

Dear Sir or Madam,

on the 28 April 2009, the Home Office, BERR, and Cabinet Office met to discuss and agree the UK Government response to the European Commission infraction proceedings arising from the failure to prosecute BT over the Phorm scandal.

Please will you disclose to me;

- The topic and agenda of that meeting

- The names of those who attended the meeting

- Any third parties who were present, including BT, Virgin Media, Carphone Warehouse, or Phorm

- The minutes, particularly concerning agreements that were reached at that meeting

Yours faithfully,

P. John

Cabinet Office

CABINET OFFICE REFERENCE: FOI267302

Dear Mr John,

Thank you for your request for information. Your request was received on
10/07/2009 and is being dealt with under the terms of the Freedom of
Information Act 2000.

In some circumstances a fee may be payable and if that is the case, I will
let you know the likely charges before proceeding.

If you have any queries about this letter, please contact me. Please
remember to quote the reference number above in any future communications.

Yours sincerely,

FOI Team
Cabinet Office
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Dear Mr John,

Please find attached the CO response to your request.

Yours sincerely,

Rachel Clark

Cabinet Secretariat
70 Whitehall
London
SW1A 2AS

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Dear Ms. Clark,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Cabinet Office's handling of my FOI request 'Phorm: Meeting on 28 April 2009'.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ph...

I'm surprised by your response to my FoI request.

The record (available for anyone to view online) shows that the total number of requests I have made to the Cabinet Office is 2 (two) over the last 60 days.

Of those requests you have declined to address either of them.

For your convenience the dates of my enquiries are listed below

10 July 2009, Phorm: Meeting on 28 April 2009, REJECTED ON COST GROUNDS

13 June 2009, EC; First Stage of Infringement Proceeding REJECTED ON GROUNDS OF POLICY INTEREST

So I don't recognise your assertion that I have placed a significant burden on the Cabinet Office. Both of my requests are well within the limits of the act, and the fact that you have rejected both suggests you incurred very little (if any) cost at all.

I don't accept that providing me with information about the meeting on 28 April would be unduly burdensome. I have specified the date and information required from you very precisely to avoid significant cost.

In passing, I'm sorry to hear there are so many people making requests for related information. You are no doubt aware this is a matter of considerable public controversy.

The Information Commissioner recommends in such circumstances you could "avoid unwanted requests by voluntarily publishing any frequently requested information".

Please can I ask you to review this decision, in view of the above information, and/or consider publishing the information you claim is being so frequently requested?

regards
P John

PS.
I have made requests to other offices of Government, including the Prime Ministers Office. Your colleague Sue Gray stated that 'it does not necessarily follow that the Prime Minister or his office will be privy to the same information as the Cabinet Office, and vice versa. There is correspondence which will be dealt with by the Cabinet Office which will not be sent to the Prime Ministers Office'.

Cabinet Office

Dear Mr John,

Thank you for Internal Review request dated 07/08/2009. This is receiving
attention.

Kind Regards,

FOI Team
Cabinet Office
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Dear Sir or Madam,

please can I chase progress on this Internal Review.

Yours faithfully,

P. John

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There are details of the timeline surrounding these events here;

http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/f...

See also this FoI concerning an earlier meeting in August 2008 to discuss the first (rejected) UK Government response to EC Infraction proceedings,

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/de...

Rachel Clark at the Cabinet Office is listed as one of those copied on the memorandum.

Dear Ms Clark,

Chasing progress on this FoI.

You may be aware, BIS have recently disclosed documentation relating to your earlier meeting at 1 Victoria Street on 5 August 2008.

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/de...

I am certain you will be keen to match and even exceed BIS enthusiasm for open, transparent, and accountable Government... by disclosing to me the information requested concerning the Meeting on April 28 2009.

Yours faithfully,

P. John

Dear Sir or Madam,

please can I chase progress on this FoI internal review?

It has now taken you 3 months to address.

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ph...

Yours faithfully,

P. John

Dear Cabinet Office,

final chaser on this foi request, before yet another complaint to the Information Commissioner about your handling of requests relating to Phorm.

One could be forgiven for thinking Gordon Brown had something corrupt to hide about his knowledge of covert trials of a nationwide industrial espionage scam perpetrated by BT.

RSVP within 48 hours please.

thanks,
Yours faithfully,

P. John

PS. Happy New Year.

P. John left an annotation ()

Postal complaint sent 7/1/2010.

Phillip Main left an annotation ()

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/re...

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/da...

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/co...

As of 25th Feb 2010 these requests to the Cabinet Office and Home Office remain unanswered. Along with Mr. Johns unanswered requests they seem to indicate a less than willing adherence to the spirit of openness spouted by Mr. Gordon Brown, but a willingness to disregard the FOI Act with delays and avoidance and excuse.