Payment of state pension by 4 weekly & 13 weekly methods.

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From: G S Parmenter

8 April 2011

Dear Department for Work and Pensions,
BR 2189 states if you are paid every 4 weeks your first payment (in
the new financial year) could be made up of 3 weeks at the old
amount and 1 week at the new amount and if you are paid every 13
weeks your first payment could be made up of 11 weeks at the old
amount and 2 weeks at the new amount. For simplicity if we assume a
pension rise of
£5-00 your figures represent an under-payment of £15-00 and £55-00
respectively. When do pensioners receive these underpayments?
If a pensioner changes to weekly paid during the year can you
confirm that in addition to the 3 or 11 old payments from the
previous year he will receive his full entitlement of 52 weeks in
the current year?
In the case of the 3 weeks at the old amount they would have been
for weeks 50, 51 and 52. If in that year their birthday was such
that their first pension payment was due from week 50 this would
result in anunderpayment of 3 whole weeks pension. In the following
year he would receive a total of 3 old and 49 new payments.
Similarly to have 11 weeks carried over because your pension
entitlement started from week 42 it means in your first pension
year you have been underpaid 11 weeks pension. In the following
year he would be paid 11 weeks old and 41 new. In both cases the
underpayments are subject to tax under present tax legislation.
When will the pensioners receive the money that they have been
underpaid?

I have a letter from the Pension Service dated 15th January 2004
that states "it therefor means that most retirement pensions are
paid over a crossover period between the diferent finacial years".
Does this mean that most pensioners are underpaid?

Finally can you confirm that the only way to get a corrct pension
is to receive it weekly.

Yours faithfully,

G S Parmenter

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19 April 2011


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G S Parmenter left an annotation (19 April 2011)

Quote-marks The statement made by D.W.P that there are no underpayments is completely untrue.A pensioner is entitled to receive a total of 52 weeks of the new rate in the financial year, If he receives some old payments then he has not received his full pension that F.Y. The following year will also contain old and new payments so he will be underpaid again the following year. The four weekly method follows a cycle in excess of 20 years in which the pensioner will only receive a full pension within the F.Y. for 5 or 6 years then 1 week old and 51 new for he next 5 or 6 years then 2 old and 50 new then 3 old and 49 new each for 5 or 6 years.
The 13 week cycle is about 70 years so most pensioners will never receive a full pension if they do nojoin the cycle during the first 5/6 years. their reply is a complete cover up.

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