Dear British Broadcasting Corporation,

What discussions have taken place within the BBC at not imposing the license fee on people this year following the Jimmy Saville scandal?

How much down the years did the BBC give to Jimmy Saville?

How many paedophiles are within the BBC?

How many BBC staff have a conviction for sexual offenses against under 16's?

Yours faithfully,

Ben Brown

FOI Enquiries, British Broadcasting Corporation

Dear Mr Brown,

Thank you for your request for information under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, as detailed in your email below. Your request was received on 3rd January 2013. We will deal with your request as promptly as possible, and at the latest within 20 working days. If you have any queries about your request, please contact us at the address below.

The reference number for your request is RFI20130008.

Kind regards

The Information Policy & Compliance Team

BBC Freedom of Information
BC2 B6, Broadcast Centre
201 Wood Lane
London W12 7TP

www.bbc.co.uk/foi
Email: [BBC request email]

Tel: 020 8008 2882
Fax: 020 8008 2398

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Peter Jones left an annotation ()

I'm not sure they're going to go for the direct approach like this!

hurn of the family smith left an annotation ()

Gonna be hard for them to decide who to dob in but then it depends on how much that parasite brings in for the pedo ring company.

richard left an annotation ()

They wont say how much they gave him.

Dear British Broadcasting Corporation,

Where is my reply?

Yours faithfully,

Ben Brown

Peter Jones left an annotation ()

They might still be totalling up their response to part 3 of your request. Just a thought!

Ben left an annotation ()

I have now made a formal complaint to the ICO. When I get a response I will share it.

Stephanie Simmonds, British Broadcasting Corporation

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Dear Mr Brown,

Please find attached a response to your FOI request, reference number RFI20130008. I apologise unreservedly for the delay.

Kind regards,

Stephanie Simmonds
BBC Information Policy & Compliance
[BBC request email]

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Mark Salter left an annotation ()

Another strange inability where a photocopier copy is possible, but a scan to electronic form is too difficult:-

"
...Whilst the BBC considers that contributor files, like other programme related material, fall outside the
scope of the Act, in this case the BBC is prepared to volunteer this information to you.
Due to the age of the files in question, it has proved difficult to scan pages in sufficiently high quality. I therefore propose sending the information to you in hard copy form. To that end, could you please contact us at foi@bbc.co.uk with a physical address to which
we can send these documents.
"

I suggest you ask for them electronically.

The BBC seem to think that if you repeat something enough times it becomes a fact.

Watchkeeper left an annotation ()

A far older document, Magna Carta, has been successfully scanned.

http://tinyurl.com/adkks2u

An organisation with an income of £5,000,000,000 per annum (almost capable of buying the entire fleet of 6 new Type 45 destroyers EVERY YEAR) should surely have a decent scanner. The BBC is trying to fob you off. Resist!

Peter Martin left an annotation ()

The responses so far appear to following a predictable path.
Delay followed by a distraction couched as a concession, all designed to ensure you don't get any answers of value.
The attempt to make it hard copy is purely to try and avoid anything being easy to share electronically.
The last one I recall was issuing the Pollard Report on unsearchable .pdfs, which managed to even knock the liberal press offside.
I am not even sure this suggestion is legal.

Dear British Broadcasting Corporation,

At last a reply. Thanks it is appreciated. It shouldn't take the FOI commissioners intervention to force a reply.

It seems that you will impose the license fee on people even though they detest it due to the Savile affair and the likes. Maybe if you were genuinely sorry you would suspend that.

Regarding Question 2 are you seriously telling me that the BBC does not have a good scanner!! Go and buy one or would you like me to have a whip round to help towards the costs!!

Yours faithfully,

Ben Brown

FOI Enquiries, British Broadcasting Corporation

Dear Ben,

 

Thank you for your further email.  I was sorry to read of your
dissatisfaction; however I must reiterate that that it is not possible to
provide you with documents in scanned form.  This is because there are
over 1000 pages, much of which is carbon copy paper from the 1960s-70s.  A
hard copy has been prepared for you if you would like to provide us with
an address.

 

This does not affect your appeal rights, which I have copied below:

 

Appeal Rights

 

If you are not satisfied that we have complied with the Act in responding
to your request, you have the right to an internal review by a BBC senior
manager or legal adviser.  Please contact us at the address above,
explaining what you would like us to review and including your reference
number.  If you are not satisfied with the internal review, you can appeal
to the Information Commissioner.  The contact details are: Information
Commissioner's Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9
5AF, telephone 01625 545 700 or see http://www.ico.gov.uk/

 

I hope this information is helpful.

 

Yours sincerely,

The Information Policy & Compliance Team

 

BBC Freedom of Information

Room BC2 B6 Broadcast Centre

Wood Lane

London W12 7TP

www.bbc.co.uk/foi 

Email: [BBC request email]

 

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Mark Salter left an annotation ()

"A hard copy has been prepared for you if you would like to provide us with an address."

The important word here being 'copy', so it is possible to scan these documents and print them out to send, but not scan them and save them instead - bizarre in the extreme.

Ben, when you do get them I would like to offer to scan them all for you (once you are done) and share the results, here with help from WDTK if available but online at least - I will send a direct message with my contact details.

If there is a single original piece of paper in this release I will of course eat my hat btw!

Shockingly silly response from the BBC, might I suggest that you seek an internal review and then raise this incident with the ICO if you are not satisfied.

Watchkeeper left an annotation ()

"... so it is possible to scan these documents and print them out to send, but not scan them and save them instead - bizarre in the extreme".

Quite. Another instance of the BBC's arrogance. I'd be very annoyed if I were funding it ...

Dear British Broadcasting Corporation,

As 2 people have quite rightly said on here -

"A hard copy has been prepared for you if you would like to provide us with an address."

"... so it is possible to scan these documents and print them out to send, but not scan them and save them instead - bizarre in the extreme".

Do the decent thing for once BBC

Yours faithfully,

Ben

Barbara Richards left an annotation ()

I would like the BBC to refund all the licence fee money they have bullied and threatened me into paying over the years, because I feel absolutly violated at their deliberate cover up of Staffordshire Pindown child abuse especially in the documentary Care Home Kid, which tried to sweep it all under the carpet. The BBC is fully aware that Pindown victims have been deliberatly snd systematically persecuted and they also knew that there were victims of Pindown who wanted to have their say in that documentary but were prevented from doing so.

Barbara Richards left an annotation ()

Theres no reason at all why the BBC cant send this information digitally, this is just nonsense

FOI Enquiries, British Broadcasting Corporation

Dear Ben,

Thank you for your e-mail.

As we have previously explained, the original documentation is over 1000 pages, much of which is carbon copy paper from the 1960s-70s. Our own photocopiers are unable to replicate a copy of a readable quality documents of this quality, so we have organised for a third party with appropriate technology to produce a photocopy on our behalf which we can post to you if required.

We have not been able to scan this document to provide you with a copy via e-mail as the PDF document created by our scanning technology exceeds the size permitted to be saved and e-mailed by our systems. As I am sure you will appreciate, breaking the document down into more manageable chunks has significant staff time implications.

While we are mindful of our duty to be helpful to requestors under the Act, we must also consider our obligations to licence fee payers to ensure value for money and therefore we do not consider that it reasonably practical to provide you with the information in your preferred format.

Kind regards,

BBC Information Policy and Compliance
Room BC2 B6 Broadcast Centre
Wood Lane
London W12 7TP

Website: www.bbc.co.uk/foi
Email: mailto:[BBC request email]
Tel: 020 8008 2882
Fax: 020 8008 2398

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Dear FOI Enquiries,

Please scan these documents and email them to me via this website. It is not hard. Would you like me to buy you a printer to carry out this simple function.

I am not concerned about the significant staff time implications as you already have 6 reporters to every story.

Also the BBC never once have considered their obligations to license fee payers to ensure value for money. You are wasting money day and daily.

Yours sincerely,

Ben Brown

Barbara Richards left an annotation ()

Perhaps the BBC could make an arrangement with Ben to go into the office where the documents are kept, with his photo copier, and he could do the job, if there really is no-one at the BBC with the time, equipment, brains and training to do it, just a thought.

Barbara Richards left an annotation ()

"so we have organised for a third party with appropriate technology "

Could you tell us the name of this third party please?

Peter Martin left an annotation ()

As any who has had the misfortune to deal with the Beware of the Leopard logic that epitomises BBC complaints, once polite logic and persistence gets to a certain point in face of ovine obstinacy and dissembling, the usual technique to make awkward reality go away is to bump things upstairs where a Trust mandarin will (or will be claimed to... who knows?) have a gander, arrive at a personal belief that may not be challenged at all, much less in public forum, and pull the plug on the whole thing in name of 'making best use of licence fee payers' money'.

Should this happen in this case of FoI, after all committed in writing here for all to see, when I next have occasion to be treated to your template treatment BBC... good luck with that.

You took something minor and simple and have now driven it to a very major, complex... and expensive place, as you always do, for no good reason (well, other than to exhaust through attrition, the clear aim). Again.

As a licence fee payer, I do not consider this a responsible use of further funds away from programming.

Mark Salter left an annotation ()

@ Barbara...

Your annotation may not be read by any in the BBC FOI department; if you do want to know the name of the organisation that provided this copy service, then a FOI request would be the way to find out.

They have shared an estimate of the cost in this response on the same :-

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

but have not shared the name at this time.

Peter Martin left an annotation ()

@Mark

You are quite right on the best procedural approach.

However I might suggest that while asking here may not solicit any response, it is most certainly getting read by the BBC.

Mark Salter left an annotation ()

I have posted links to Electronic copies of the data in the response here:-

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

Gary Cook left an annotation ()

Staff time? You can get free software on line that splits a PDF in to parts. What a joke. They cant tell us the law apparently because it is too complicated apparently. LOL

Dear British Broadcasting Corporation,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of British Broadcasting Corporation's handling of my FOI request 'Paedophile'. Nearly a year later the information has still not been supplied. Why?

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/p...

Yours faithfully,

Ben

FOI Enquiries, British Broadcasting Corporation

Dear Ben,

Thank you for your email seeking a review of our handling of your request for information under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. We will deal with your request as promptly as possible, and at the latest within 30 working days.

Yours sincerely
The Information Policy and Compliance Team

BBC Information Policy and Compliance
Room BC2 B6 Broadcast Centre
Wood Lane
London W12 7TP

Website: www.bbc.co.uk/foi
Email: mailto:[BBC request email]
Tel: 020 8008 2883
Fax: 020 8008 2398

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FOI Enquiries, British Broadcasting Corporation

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Dear Ben

Please find a copy of our internal review decision attached.

We apologise for the delay in completing this review and for any inconvenience that this has caused.

Yours sincerely

BBC Information Policy and Compliance
Room BC2 B6, Broadcast Centre
201 Wood Lane
London W12 7TP, UK

Website: www.bbc.co.uk/foi
Email: [BBC request email]
Tel: 020 8008 2882
Fax: 020 8008 2398

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Peter Jones left an annotation ()

Ben,

Why don't you ask them to deliver it to a BBC office local to you? You can then collect the hard copy at your convenience.

Mark Salter left an annotation ()

Linking to another request that was a failure in terms of compliance with the FOIA and aptly demonstrated that the BBC are even unable to actually use the postal system correctly as they did not use suitable packaging and could not even manage to put a stamp on it.

But a timely reminder that they still owe me the postage, handling charge, parking, mileage and the cost of my time; time for an invoice I wonder?

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