Open Data in the Public Sector

Paul Byers made this Freedom of Information request to Welsh Government

The request was partially successful.

From: Paul Byers

7 November 2011

Dear Welsh Assembly Government/Llywodraeth Cynulliad Cymru,

Last week Monmouthshire County Council adopted the Open Government
Licence

http://www.monmouthshire.gov.uk/news/art...
.

This was their first step in becoming an ‘open data’ authority and
changing the balance of scorecards for the Welsh public sector like
the one produced by Openly Local -

http://openlylocal.com/councils/open?cou... .

I would like to ask:

1. Has the Welsh Government considered its own position on ‘Open
Data'?

2. If so, what were the details of any such consideration, and were
any plans made?

3. If plans have been made, what steps are being considered and in
what timeframe?

4. If not, what was the reasoning against?

5. Who would be an appropriate contact to take this discussion
further?

Yours faithfully,

Paul Byers

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From: Campbell-Lawrence, Rachael (PPCS - IRU)
Welsh Government

23 November 2011


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Dear Mr Byers,

Thank you for your enquiry.

The Welsh Government has for many years been committed to maximising
openness in government through the commitments set out in its Code of
Practice on Access to Information which include:

* The principles guiding our approach to open government;
* The principles under which we will publish information or make it
available on request;
* The circumstances in which we may withhold information. 

A copy of the Code can be accessed from the following link
[1]http://wales.gov.uk/publications/accessi...

In addition the Welsh Government complies with a Publication Scheme which
can accessed from the following link:
[2]http://wales.gov.uk/publications/publica... This
is supplemented by the attached Information Guide which provides
signposting to the information within the seven classes referred to in the
Publication Scheme.

<<_e_ Information guide WAG Publication Scheme final English
document.pdf>>
The Information Commissioner's Office  (ICO) is currently consulting on
the revision of its model publication scheme and  proposes to make interim
updates to the definition documents for other parts of the public sector
by July 2012.  The Welsh Government plans to review its Publication Scheme
in the third quarter of 2012 to incorporate any new guidance issued by the
ICO.

If you have any queries in relation to the Welsh Government's Code of
Practice on Access to Information please contact the [3]Freedom of
Information Officer mailbox.  If you have any queries in relation to the
Publication Scheme and the licences we use to publish information please
contact:

Library and Archive Service
Welsh Government
Cathays Park
Cardiff
CF10 3NQ

email: [email address]

Telephone:
•       English: 0300 0603300 or 0845 010 3300
•       Welsh: 0300 0604400 or 0845 010 4400
•       International enquiry number: (+44) 1443 845500

Yours sincerely,

Rachael Campbell-Lawrence

Rachael Campbell-Lawrence
Department for People, Places and Corporate Services / Pobl, Lleoedd a
Gwasanaethau Corfforaethol
Welsh Government / Llywodraeth Cymru
Cathays Park / Parc Cathays
Cardiff / Caerdydd CF10 3NQ
Tel - Ffôn: 029 2082 3356

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From: Paul Byers

25 November 2011

Dear Campbell-Lawrence, Rachael (PPCS - IRU),

Thank you for your reply to my FOI request, and for the embedded
hyperlinks, which I found useful, although I must admit to have
been already aware of points you made.

I think we are at cross-purposes and, maybe because I haven’t made
myself clear about my use of the term ‘Open Data’, I feel your
response doesn’t address the issues I raise particularly well.

I am using ‘open data’ in the same way as the recent UK Government
consultation ‘Making Open Data Real’ and the areas covered by the
UK Cabinet’s Public Sector Transparency Board. This has more
reference to datasets and digital engagement,rather than your
emphasis on publications under the Freedom of Information Act, and
is more in tune with the European Commission’s move towards
adopting measures for an open data strategy.

In order to move this request along and, hopefully, make it a bit
clearer, may I now ask you to provide me with any inventories you
have of the datasets held by the different Divisions of the Welsh
Government?

Thanks in advance for any advice and assistance you are able to
provide.

Yours sincerely,

Paul Byers

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From: CSOT - FOI/DP
Welsh Government

5 December 2011


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Dear Mr Byers

Further to your request for information, please find attached an
acknowledgement letter sent on behalf of Rachael Campbell-Lawrence.

Yours sincerely

Stephen
Stephen Downs
Business Information Manager / Rheolwr Gwybodaeth Busnes
Central Services Operations Team / Tîm Gweithrediadau’r Gwasanaethau
Canolog
Welsh Government / Llywodraeth Cymru

Phone / Ffôn : 02920 826901
E-mail / E-bost: [email address]

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<<ATISN 5648 acknowledgement.doc>>

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resymau cyfreithiol.

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From: CSOT - FOI/DP
Welsh Government

23 December 2011


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Dear Mr Byers

Please find attached a final response to your recent freedom of
information request, sent on behalf of Rachael Campbell-Lawrence (Deputy
Head of Information Rights Unit.)

Yours sincerely 

Stacey Harris
<<ATISN 5648 - Disclosure.doc>>
Central Services Operations Team / Tîm Gweithrediadau’r Gwasanaethau
Canolog
Welsh Government / Llywodraeth Cymru

Phone / Ffôn : 02920 821653
E-mail / E-bost: [email address]

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gysylltiedig â’r neges hon. Mae’n ddigon posibl y bydd unrhyw ohebiaeth
drwy’r GSi yn cael ei logio, ei monitro a/neu ei chofnodi yn awtomatig am
resymau cyfreithiol.

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Paul Staples left an annotation (23 December 2011)

Quote-marks Suggest yiou ask for a review, based on the fact that they do not appear to have offered any advice and assistance (which they have a duty to do) as to what info they could provide within the costs limit. Whilst the links provided are some assistance they have not done all they could. They must have some idea which depts are most likely to have info, or could e.g. offer to ask the 20 largest departments.

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From: Paul Byers

2 January 2012

Dear CSOT - FOI/DP,

Thank you for your latest response to my FOI request and for the
time and effort you’ve put into its preparation.

I note that you have decided not to proceed with creating one
inventory of Welsh Government datasets as you estimate this will
exceed your £600 limit. I am surprised, partly because I had not
asked for this, only for ‘any inventories you have’ but also
because I had thought you would be considering your position in the
light of the recent launch of the Open Data Strategy for Europe by
the European Commission.

(http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesActi...
)

However, I will work from the actual response you have made and see
if I’m able to secure a workable inventory of datasets from within
your costs limits.

I will, therefore, refocus and limit my request to:

1. a specific geographical area – the electoral ward of Cathays in
Cardiff and its nine Local Super Output Areas (LSOA) and

2. the content of any datasets that relate to the movement profile
(travel and transport) aspects which affect this area.

I ask that you provide me with:

1. a list of all the divisions within the Welsh Government which
are likely to hold datasets meeting these two criteria

2. a catalogue of any datasets which they are known to hold,
preferably with a brief description, indicating which are available
online in machine-readable format and which have SPARQL endpoints
defined.

Thank you in advance for any help, advice and assistance you are
able to provide.

Yours sincerely,

Paul Byers

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From: Jenkins, Jamie Michael (CSOT - Business Management)
Welsh Government

30 January 2012


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Dear Mr Byers

Further to your recent request for information, please find attached a
final disclosure letter (sent on behalf of Mr James Owen, Deputy Director,
Expert Services).

Yours sincerely

Jamie

Jamie Jenkins
Information Manager / Rheolwr Gwybodaeth
Central Services Operations Team / Tîm Gweithrediadau’r Gwasanaethau
Canolog
Welsh Government / Llywodraeth Cymru

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drwy’r GSi yn cael ei logio, ei monitro a/neu ei chofnodi yn awtomatig am
resymau cyfreithiol.

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From: Paul Byers

3 February 2012

Dear Jenkins, Jamie Michael (CSOT - Business Management),

Thank you for your latest response to my ongoing FOI request. Once
again you have surprised me when you report that the Welsh
Government, as a significant source of transport funding in the
area and the operator of a large office complex in the electoral
ward, does not have any information that affects the movement
profile of Cathays.

I’m sure that the key to this is the way I’m framing the question.
I’ll start this time by looking at the involvement, particularly
financial, that the Welsh Government has with the three rail
stations in Cathays (Central, Queen Street and Cathays).

1. How is the Government, or its predecessors, involved with the
development and operation of these rail links?

2. What have been the issues being addressed?

3. How will the Government know that the desired effects have been
secured, who will be better off and in what way?

Secondly, I’d like to look at the Cathays Park complex.

1. Does a travel plan exist and how does a member of the public
gain sight of it?

2. What issues are addressed and in what way?

3. What measures are being used to show improvements?

Again, I thank you in advance for any response, advice or
assistance you are able to offer.

Yours sincerely,

Paul Byers

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From: Paul Byers

7 March 2012

Dear Jenkins, Jamie Michael (CSOT - Business Management),

I have not yet received a response to the requests for information
I sent on 3rd February.

Can you let me know what the position is with these?

Yours sincerely,

Paul Byers

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From: Jenkins, Jamie Michael (CSOT - Business Management)
Welsh Government

7 March 2012

Dear Mr Bryers

Your request has been passed to my colleagues in the Transport Division as they hold/lead on the areas of information that you have requested.

I placed a request to colleagues yesterday to establish the latest with gathering information in line with parts 3 - 6 of your request and am awaiting their response.

I hope to be able to provide you with a final response (on behalf of Transport colleagues shortly - in the event they do not directly respond to you). My apologies for the delay in providing you with this update.

Yours sincerely

Jamie

Jamie Jenkins

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From: Paul Byers

15 March 2012

Dear Welsh Assembly Government/Llywodraeth Cynulliad Cymru,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of
Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Welsh Assembly
Government/Llywodraeth Cynulliad Cymru's handling of my FOI request
'Open Data in the Public Sector'.

This request has been running since early November of last year,
and, after a period of exchanges to clarify terms, you first
respond that you hold suitable information but that it would be too
expensive to collate, then, when I try re-focus the request so that
it was restricted enough for you to consider it as manageable, you
respond that you have nothing appropriate within that area.

When I write back in February with suggestions of areas to
investigate, including a specific enquiry about the existence of a
travel plan for your Cathays Park office, I hear nothing, not even
an acknowledgement, until I send a reminder to you on 7th March.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is
available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/op...

Yours faithfully,

Paul Byers

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From: CSOT - FOI/DP
Welsh Government

12 April 2012


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Dear Mr Byers

Further to your recent complaint regarding the disclosure of information
for ATISN 5648 and ATISN 5721, please find attached a response sent on
behalf of Peter Kennedy, Director, People - PPCS

Stephen Downs
Business Information Manager / Rheolwr Gwybodaeth Busnes
Central Services Operations Team / Tîm Gweithrediadau’r Gwasanaethau
Canolog
Welsh Government / Llywodraeth Cymru

Phone / Ffôn : 02920 826901
E-mail / E-bost: [email address]

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From: Paul Byers

12 April 2012

Dear CSOT - FOI/DP,

Thank you for your reply to my request for an internal review.

Before I consider whether to make a more detailed response, can I
ask you to explain your second paragraph? You state 'Firstly, I
trust that the information you received from Mr Jamie Jenkins on
16th March 2012, satisfactorily addressed your latest request.' I
have no record of having received any such correspondence and it is
certainly not logged on the 'What Do they Know' website.

Yours sincerely,

Paul Byers

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From: CSOT - FOI/DP
Welsh Government

13 April 2012


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Good morning Mr Byers

Whilst we are attempting to recover the original E-mail, the attached is the letter dated 16th March.

Apologies if this document did not reach you originally.

Yours sincerely

Stephen
Stephen Downs
Business Information Manager / Rheolwr Gwybodaeth Busnes
Central Services Operations Team / Tîm Gweithrediadau'r Gwasanaethau Canolog
Welsh Government / Llywodraeth Cymru

Phone / Ffôn : 02920 826901
E-mail / E-bost: [email address]

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From: Paul Byers

14 April 2012

Dear CSOT - FOI/DP,

Thank you for your report on the internal review you recently
undertook on my behalf.

I have spent some time thinking about whether to take up the issues
you raise, and the points you miss, through the processes available
under the Act, or instead, to follow up on your statement that
there will be an alternative channel for requests that the Welsh
Government considers to fall outside the FOI scope.

I know I could have used this forum to discuss further such themes
as whether the treatment of ATISN 5648 and ATISN 5721 were really
that satisfactory or what is the most useful definition of a
record, but I think it would make more sense and be a better use of
peoples’ time and effort if we find a new mechanism as you suggest.

So – can I return to my fifth question in my original request last
November, namely ‘Who would be an appropriate contact to take this
discussion further? I do so now not only in the context of the
European Commission and UK Cabinet Office initiatives that I have
quoted in previous exchanges but also in the light of the Welsh
Government’s own recent consultation document ‘Shared Purpose –
Shared Delivery’, particularly Chapter 4 – Building a Robust
Evidence Base.

As further background for whoever is put forward to contact me, I
should add that this whole exercise has been motivated by a desire
to build up a knowledge base about the Cathays electoral ward,
partly as a pilot for more such hyper-local approaches, and is
being led by Connect Cathays, a small third sector body with two
main aims:

1. to connect residents and visitors in a geographically-defined
area as a community, as an aim in its own right - tied in with
psychological aspects of well-being, and

2. to provide a facility that will enable people to collaborate in
reaching evidence-based judgements, leading on to transparent
collective decision-making.

The tasks involved have been made a great deal easily recently with
a successful bid for funds to cover the setup and hosting costs of
a wiki, which will use Semantic Mediawiki Plus open source
software. This finance has been made available through the Cardiff
South East Neighbourhood Management Team within the context of
Cardiff’s ‘What Matters’ strategy and the Cardiff Integrated
Partnership, of which the Welsh Government is a member.

With all this in mind, on behalf of Connect Cathays and myself, I
look forward to my next contact from the Welsh Government.

Yours sincerely,

Paul Byers

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From: CSOT - FOI/DP
Welsh Government

30 April 2012


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Dear Mr Byers

Further to your recent correspondence, please find attached a letter
providing you with the contract details for Mr James Owen.  As indicated
in the letter, Mr Owen will be able to discuss with you, the position
regarding Open Government and Access to Information.

Yours sincerely

Jamie

Jamie Jenkins
Information Manager / Rheolwr Gwybodaeth
Central Services Operations Team / Tîm Gweithrediadau’r Gwasanaethau
Canolog
Welsh Government / Llywodraeth Cymru

Phone / Ffôn : 02920 821578
E-mail / E-bost: [email address]

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drwy’r GSi yn cael ei logio, ei monitro a/neu ei chofnodi yn awtomatig am
resymau cyfreithiol.

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From: Paul Byers

1 May 2012

Dear CSOT - FOI/DP,

Thank you. This is very much appreciated

Yours sincerely,

Paul Byers

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