Old Roar Gill – Landslip to rear of Foxcote and Penhurst – works carried out in last 10 years

Waiting for an internal review by Hastings Borough Council of their handling of this request.

Dear Hastings Borough Council,

There has been a significant landslip in Old Roar Gill to the rear of houses in Foxcote and Penhurst Close. The banks of the gill , the footpath and residents gardens have been affected.

Residents report that land has been slipping for some time starting on the council owned slopes of Old Roar Gill. They report that there have been repairs made to the footpath and fence on a number of occasions without addressing the erosion problem of the banks.

Residents report that the problem started on the streamside of the footpath fence near the edge of the bridge a number of years ago. The slope and footpath were affected as a result of the progressive erosion of the bank which the council have failed to properly address. Watercourses need to be properly maintained to prevent the erosion of that bank

Residents report that the council has known about the slippage there for a number of years and has not addressed the problem. The use of treatment to remove the knotweed on that area in the past may also have contributed to the problem by damaging the root and eco system..

Residents report that the bank that has now collapsed had a slip some time back before lockdown and lost much of its mature vegetation. The council came along and undertook some works erecting a new fence and repairing the path. The vegetation had not fully re-established itself. The council who owns the Gill did not address the root cause of the previous slip,

Please provide under EIR the following information (in any form including emails. Internal and external correspondence) concerning:

1. Details of all works carried out in the vicinity of the landslip (including the gill,footpath, fence and slopes) over the last ten years

2. Details of all site visits and investigations in the vicinity of the landslip (including the gill,footpath, fence and slopes) over the last ten years

3. Copies of all reports, documents concerning this area in the vicinity of the landslip (including the gill,footpath, fence and slopes) over the last ten years

Yours faithfully,

Chris Hurrell

Information Officer, Hastings Borough Council

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Information Officer, Hastings Borough Council

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Dear Mr Hurrell
 
I refer to your recent Freedom of Information request ref: FOIR-590101633.
 
Please find attached our response.
 
 
 
Yours sincerely
 
Lisa Greathead
Information Officer
Hastings Borough Council
Muriel Matters House
Breeds Place
Hastings
TN34 3UY
01424 451722
 
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Dear Hastings Borough Council,

I wish to take this to review.

The request asks for details of works for the last 10 years. It is unlikely that all historic work details from several years ago can still be considered to be subject to the “course of justice/ safe space” exception . This refusal is a blanket refusal to release any information regardless. Dates of any works should be released and release of additional information should be considered on its own merits – not with a blanket refusal.

This request asks for details of site visits. Not all details of site visits over the last 10 years can be considered to be subject to the “course of justice/ safe space” exception, For example dates of site visits cannot possibly be considered to fall under this exception. This refusal is a blanket refusal to release any information regardless. Each site visit should be dated and release of additional information should be considered on its own merits – not with a blanket refusal.

The request asks for copies of reports/documents produced in the last 10 years. It is unlikely that all such historic documents from several years ago can still be considered to be subject to the “course of justice/ safe space” exception . Furthermore listing documents held cannot be considered subject to the “course of justice/ safe space” exception This refusal is a blanket refusal to release any information regardless. Each document should be named and release should be considered on its own merits – not with a blanket refusal.

Some documents are more recent and may be considered under the “course of justice/safe space” exception. However the public interest lies in the documents being released. The landslip is a matter of concern to residents affected by the landslip and to the wider public who use the park. The course of justice and safe space exceptions are outweighed by the wider public interest. Preventing release of the documents is harmful to HBCs reputation and suggests that HBC are attempting to conceal the causes of the landslip and any mitigation measures possible.

HBC have not properly explored the public interest test.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/o...

Yours faithfully,

Chris Hurrell

Information Officer, Hastings Borough Council

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Thank you for your Freedom of Information request.
 
We aim to respond to requests for information within 20 working days, in
accordance with the requirements of the Freedom of Information Act. 
 
If your request is for personal information (Subject Access request) your
request will be dealt with according to the requirements of the General
Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and the timescale for response may be
extended to 40 days.
 
You can find out more information about [1]Freedom of Information as well
as all of the services the council provides on [2]our website.
 
Information Officer
Hastings Borough Council
01424 451066
[3]www.hastings.gov.uk
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Information Officer, Hastings Borough Council

Dear Mr Hurrell

I refer to your email dated 12 April 2024 requesting an internal review following our response to your Freedom of Information request: : FOIR-590101633 - Old Roar Gill - Landslip to rear of Foxcote and Penhurst - works carried out in last 10 years.

Your request for an internal review is currently being investigated however, many officers of the council have been involved with the Election therefore, I am writing to advise you that unfortunately there will be a delay in responding.

Yours sincerely

Lisa Greathead
Information Officer
Hastings Borough Council
Muriel Matters House
Breeds Place
Hastings
TN34 3UY
01424 451722

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