NN34 BSc Accounting and Finance

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Dear London School of Economics,

I am writing to you to find out the admissions statistics for NN34 degree course.

I would like to find out the following:

(1) The total number of applicants for this course for years of entry 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 for the NN34 course.

(2) The number of applicants who received offers for years of entry 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 for the NN34 course.

(3) How many applicants were only offering on their UCAS application a total of 3 A-level subjects (either expected to be completed or already completed) with a specific subject combination of mathematics, further mathematics and one other A-level subject? - For NN34 course

(4) How many applicants who fall under the part (3) category received an offer for the NN34 course?

Yours faithfully,

Mark

Dear London School of Economics,

This request is now overdue. Please could you answer this as soon as possible.

Yours faithfully,

Mark Ryan

GLPD.Info.Rights, London School of Economics

Dear Mark,

No it is due today. We will get a response to you shortly.

Regards,
Rachael Maguire
Records Manager
London School of Economics

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GLPD.Info.Rights, London School of Economics

Dear Mark,

 

With reference to your request for information under the Freedom of
Information Act, please find below the School's response.

 

(1) The total number of applicants for this course for years of entry
2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 for the NN34 course.

(2) The number of applicants who received offers for years of entry 2010,
2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 for the NN34 course.

These are all in the table below.

 

+---------------------------------------+
|Year of |Applications|Offers|Registered|
|Entry | | | |
|--------+------------+------+----------|
|2010/1 | 1979| 216| 139|
|--------+------------+------+----------|
|2011/2 | 2062| 197| 128|
|--------+------------+------+----------|
|2012/3 | 1721| 198| 109|
|--------+------------+------+----------|
|2013/4 | 1726| 196| 126|
|--------+------------+------+----------|
|2014/5 | 1673| 235| 138|
|--------+------------+------+----------|
|2015/6 | 1851| 215| 117|
|--------+------------+------+----------|
|2016/7 | 1540| 224| 113|
+---------------------------------------+

 

 

(3) How many applicants were only offering on their UCAS application a
total of 3 A-level subjects  (either expected to be completed or already
completed) with a specific subject combination of mathematics, further
mathematics and one other A-level subject? - For NN34 course

(4) How many applicants who fall under the part (3) category received an
offer for the NN34 course?

 

We are unable to process these parts of your request within the time limit
set under Section 12 of the Freedom of Information Act.

 

If you think that the information provided does not meet your request,
contact me on 020 7849 4622 or write to Kevin Haynes, Head of Legal Team, 
Governance, Legal and Policy Division, London School of Economics and
Political Science, Houghton Street, London, WC2A 2AE. We will then review
the response to your request and get back to you within 20 working days.
You can also contact the Information Commissioner's Office
[1]http://www.ico.gov.uk/, though they expect the internal review to be
carried out before receiving a complaint directly.

 

The provision of information by the LSE under the Freedom of Information
Act 2000 does not imply a right to copy, reproduce publish or otherwise
use such information.

 

Copying or reproducing such information in any way either in whole or in
part without prior written consent may be an infringement of copyright or
other intellectual property right belonging to the LSE or a third party.

 

Yours sincerely,

Rachael Maguire

Records Manager

London School of Economics

 

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Dear Rachael,

I am unable to accept that the University has spent the 18 hours required by the section 12 of the FOI act. I believe that the information in part (1) and (2) would have been very quickly obtained as it would have been simply copying in what is already stored in the University's central data system.

I would therefore suggest that you spend required time to answer part (3) and (4) of my request and if you end up being unable to do so provide an acceptable explanation as to why this was not the case.

Yours sincerely,

Mark Ryan

GLPD.Info.Rights, London School of Economics

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Dear Mark,

 

It is not simply a case of copying the data from our systems. We have to
create and run a query on the system in order to provide the response. We
do not hold the data as you requested, but have to create it each time we
get a request for this type of data.

 

The issue regarding your points 3 and 4 is the information provided to us
by UCAS. The data is inputted by the applicants and they do not use a
standard terminology when they do so. As such, we would first have to work
out which subjects fit into your category of Mathematics and which fit
into Further Mathematics. The attached spreadsheet shows the types of
terminology used by applicants over the time period of your request. We
could not guarantee that even if we can identify which category each of
these entries falls into and then run the query on that basis that the
information provided to you would be accurate.

 

Section 12 of the Freedom of Information Act and the associated Freedom of
Information and Data Protection (Appropriate Limit and Fees) Regulations
2004 does not require a public authority to do 18 hours work and then
stop. If on calculating the time it would take to respond to a request it
appears that the request will take longer than 18 hours in order to
prepare the response, the request can be refused.

 

On this basis, please let me know if you want me to treat your request
below as a request for internal review.

 

Regards,

Rachael

 

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Dear Rachael,

Rather than launching an internal appeal, I have decided to make some changes to my request. This altered request should now fall under the time limit set by section 12 of the FOI act.

The altered request is:

A list containing subjects offered by each applicant for NN34 course(including AS level) and with clear labeling next to it of whether that particular candidate received an offer or not.
For example, for 2017 entry, I would expect to see 1540 rows and 224 marked as received either conditional or unconditional offer and the rest marked as no offer

I would like to request this for years of entry
2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 for the NN34 course.

Yours sincerely,

Mark Ryan

Dear LSE,

Just a kind reminder that the request I made on 19/07/2017 is due for a response very soon.

Yours sincerely,

Mark Ryan

Dear London School of Economics,

This request I made on 19/07/2017 is now overdue. Please could you answer this as soon as possible.

Yours faithfully,

Mark Ryan

GLPD.Info.Rights, London School of Economics

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Dear Mark,

With reference to your request for information under the Freedom of Information Act, please find attached the information you requested. I apologise for the late response and hope this has not inconvenienced you.

Please note that as always with UCAS data, we are dependent on what is provided to us by applicants. Our student database staff have provided all the available A level and AS qualifications for each applicant on separate lines in order to provide all of the requested data. The ID numbers have been anonymised. Also, we have not provided the 2010/1 and 2011/2 information as this was held in incomplete form.

Please note also that the assumption in the request that there would 1540 rows for 2016/7 is not correct in this case. The number 1540 (from the previous request) is the total number of applicants for that year, not specifically the number who were offering A levels as their qualification. To avoid confusion our student database staff have included the number of applicants offering AS/A levels for entry in the years in question below,

2012/3 1040
2013/4 1020
2015/6 1092
2016/7 897

If you think that the information provided does not meet your request, contact me on [Click here and type in Phone number] or write to Andrew Webb, School Secretary, London School of Economics and Political Science, Houghton Street, London, WC2A 2AE. We will then review the response to your request and get back to you within 20 working days. You can also contact the Information Commissioner's Office http://www.ico.gov.uk/, though they expect the internal review to be carried out before receiving a complaint directly.

The provision of information by the LSE under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 does not imply a right to copy, reproduce publish or otherwise use such information.

Copying or reproducing such information in any way either in whole or in part without prior written consent may be an infringement of copyright or other intellectual property right belonging to the LSE or a third party.

Yours sincerely,