NHS Evidence Bugdet (again)

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Dear National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence,

1) Can you give me a comparative breakdown in management costs between NHS Evidence and your predecessor organisation NLH? If you do not have figures for the NLH your management costs will suffice.

2) In an earlier response you stated that the staff budget for 2009/10 was £4.3 million and in 2010/11 it would be £5.6 million. Did this figure include costs to external consultants? If not, can you give figures for this component of your budget?

3) The 2010/11 budget is £24.4 million and you spend £5.6 million on staff, £883,190 on IT support, £730,000 on marketing. This leaves over £17 million unaccounted for. Can you give me an itemised expenditure for costs over £50,000?

4) How much resource is being spent (cost and staff resource) in maintaining and developing the HDAS resource?

5) I understand you are spending a considerable sum on search engine optimisation (SEO) can you say how much you're spending on this activity and, assuming it's successful, will any increase in activity be recorded as people directly searching NHS Evidence or quoted separately?

Yours faithfully,

J Brassey

NICE Mail, National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence

Dear Mr Brassey

Reference No: EH05374

FREEDOM of INFORMATION ACT 2000

Thank you for your email dated 22/11/2010, in which you requested the
following information:

1) Can you give me a comparative breakdown in management costs between
NHS Evidence and your predecessor organisation NLH? If you do not have
figures for the NLH your management costs will suffice.

2) In an earlier response you stated that the staff budget for 2009/10
was **4.3 million and in 2010/11 it would be **5.6 million. Did this
figure include costs to external consultants? If not, can you give figures
for this component of your budget?

3) The 2010/11 budget is **24.4 million and you spend **5.6 million on
staff, **883,190 on IT support, **730,000 on marketing. This leaves over
**17 million unaccounted for. Can you give me an itemised expenditure for
costs over **50,000?

4) How much resource is being spent (cost and staff resource) in
maintaining and developing the HDAS resource?

5) I understand you are spending a considerable sum on search engine
optimisation (SEO) can you say how much you're spending on this activity
and, assuming it's successful, will any increase in activity be recorded
as people directly searching NHS Evidence or quoted separately?

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Natalie Whelan

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National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence
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NICE Mail, National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence

Dear Mr Brassey

Reference No: EH05374

FREEDOM of INFORMATION ACT 2000

Thank you for your email dated 22/11/2010, in which you requested the
following information:

1) Can you give me a comparative breakdown in management costs between
NHS Evidence and your predecessor organisation NLH? If you do not have
figures for the NLH your management costs will suffice.

2) In an earlier response you stated that the staff budget for 2009/10
was **4.3 million and in 2010/11 it would be **5.6 million. Did this
figure include costs to external consultants? If not, can you give figures
for this component of your budget?

3) The 2010/11 budget is **24.4 million and you spend **5.6 million on
staff, **883,190 on IT support, **730,000 on marketing. This leaves over
**17 million unaccounted for. Can you give me an itemised expenditure for
costs over **50,000?

4) How much resource is being spent (cost and staff resource) in
maintaining and developing the HDAS resource?

5) I understand you are spending a considerable sum on search engine
optimisation (SEO) can you say how much you're spending on this activity
and, assuming it's successful, will any increase in activity be recorded
as people directly searching NHS Evidence or quoted separately?

Your request for information has now been considered and accepted with the
following response being issued in compliance with the act.

1) Can you give me a comparative breakdown in management costs between
NHS Evidence and your predecessor organisation NLH? If you do not have
figures for the NLH your management costs will suffice.

We have interpreted ***management costs*** as referring to staff of levels
8c and above. This cost for 09/10 was **865,473. We do not hold this
information for the NLH.

2) In an earlier response you stated that the staff budget for 2009/10
was **4.3 million and in 2010/11 it would be **5.6 million. Did this
figure include costs to external consultants? If not, can you give figures
for this component of your budget?

Yes, this includes consultancy costs.

3) The 2010/11 budget is **24.4 million and you spend **5.6 million on
staff, **883,190 on IT support, **730,000 on marketing. This leaves over
**17 million unaccounted for. Can you give me an itemised expenditure for
costs over **50,000?

Please find below the details of costs over **50,000:

Full Year
Supplier Product / Service Spend
Specialist Library for Ethnicity
De Montfort University and Health 64,010
Oxford Radcliffe Hospitals NHS
Trust Specialist Library for ENT 59,691
Specialist Library for Learning
Minervation Disabilities 50,600
BNF British National Formulary 5,737,764
Quadrant Evidence Baseline survey 58,795

4) How much resource is being spent (cost and staff resource) in
maintaining and developing the HDAS resource?

Following a search of our paper and electronic records, I have established
that this information is not held by NICE.

5) I understand you are spending a considerable sum on search engine
optimisation (SEO) can you say how much you're spending on this activity
and, assuming it's successful, will any increase in activity be recorded
as people directly searching NHS Evidence or quoted separately?

Following a search of our paper and electronic records, I have established
that this information is not held by NICE.

Please note that the most recent finance report from the November Board
meeting can be downloaded from the NICE website via the following page:
[1]http://www.nice.org.uk/aboutnice/whowear....

If you are unhappy with this response and wish to make a formal complaint
it must be made in writing by letter, fax or email within 20 working days
of the Institute***s response to you and sent to:

Alana Christopher

Associate Director, Corporate Office

National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence

MidCity Place

71 High Holborn

London WC1V 6NA

Email: [2][email address]

Once we have received your complaint, you will be sent an acknowledgement
within two working days. The Associate Director, Corporate Office, will
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If you are not content with the outcome your complaint, you may apply
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Yours sincerely,

Natalie

Natalie Whelan

Communications Executive (Enquiry Handling)

National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence
Level 1A | City Tower | Piccadilly Plaza | Manchester M1 4BD | United
Kingdom
Tel: 44 (0)845 003 7781 | Fax: 44 (0)845 003 7785

Web: [3]http://nice.org.uk

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Dear NICE Mail,

Thank you for your response. However, I require some clarification:

1) I do not feel your interpretation of managers is unrealistic. Can you re-analyse for bands of 8a or above please.

2) If we assume an average salary of 30,000 with 50% on-costs and with your 44 staff = £2 million. Does that mean the rest of the money (in 2009/10 = £2.36 million and 2010/11 = £3.68 million) is spent on consultants? If that’s not correct can you tell me how much you have spent on consultants?

3) I highlighted that there was a discrepancy of £17 million in the budget and asked for every item over £50,000. You highlighted 5 items that came to £6 million. Can you confirm that the remaining £11 million is made up from items under £50,000

4) As you have no information on HDAS can you confirm that it is not the responsibility of NHS Evidence?

5) As with the above point, are you saying that NHS Evidence is not spending money on SEO? I have heard from multiple sources that you are spending a significant resource on this activity. I would welcome you re-examining your files.

Yours sincerely,

J Brassey

NICE Mail, National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence

Dear Mr Brassey

Reference No: EH06079

FREEDOM of INFORMATION ACT 2000

Thank you for your email dated 17 December 2010. Your request for information will now be considered and you will receive a response within the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined by the Act, subject to the information not being exempt or containing a reference to a third party. In some circumstances we may be unable to achieve this deadline. If this is likely you will be informed and given a revised time-scale at the earliest opportunity.

There may be a fee payable for the retrieval, collation and provision of the information you request. If this is the case you will be informed and the 20 working day timescale will be suspended until we receive payment from you. If you chose not to make a payment then your request will remain unanswered.

Some requests may also require either full or partial transference to another public authority in order to answer your query in the fullest possible way. Again, you will be informed if this is the case.

Yours sincerely,
Natalie

Natalie Whelan
Communications Executive (Enquiry Handling)
National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence
Level 1A | City Tower | Piccadilly Plaza | Manchester M1 4BD | United Kingdom
Tel: 44 (0)845 003 7781 | Fax: 44 (0)845 003 7785
Web: http://nice.org.uk

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Andy Richardson left an annotation ()

Just on a point of clarification, in section 3 under cost over £50,000
Special Libraries have been renamed because it was reported to the NHS Evidence Advisory Committee Meeting - 4th March 2009 Minutes (http://www.evidence.nhs.uk/aboutus/Docum... )
that the phrase “Specialist Libraries” can imply the information is only for librarians…

So the following resources quoted:
Specialist Library for Ethnicity
Specialist Library for ENT
Specialist Library for Minervation Learning Disabilities

Should read
Specialist Collection – Ethnicity and Health
Specialist Collection – ENT and Audiology
Specialist Collection – Learning Disabilities

Andy Richardson
Librarian

Dear NICE Mail,

Hi! I'm trying to help - honest!

I asked about costs over £50,000 and you listed a few. However, I was under the impression that the following came from the NHS Evidence budget: Eduserv for Athens, Wiley for Cochrane, SCHIN for Clinical Knowledge Service, OCLC for the LinkResolver, Credo Reference for Medical Dictionaries.

Is that not the case?

If they are included in the budget can you explain why these were missed in your initial response? Also, if they're included, can you give the actual costs.

Yours sincerely,

J Brassey

NICE Mail, National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence

Dear Mr Brassey

Reference No: EH06079

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 2000

I write in connection with your requests for information dated 17 December
2010 which asked our organisation for the following:

1) I do not feel your interpretation of managers is unrealistic. Can you
re-analyse for bands of 8a or above please.

2) If we assume an average salary of 30,000 with 50% on-costs and with
your 44 staff = £2 million. Does that mean the rest of the money (in
2009/10 = £2.36 million and 2010/11 = £3.68 million) is spent on
consultants? If that's not correct can you tell me how much you have spent
on consultants?

3) I highlighted that there was a discrepancy of £17 million in the
budget and asked for every item over £50,000. You highlighted 5 items
that came to £6 million. Can you confirm that the remaining £11 million
is made up from items under £50,000

4) As you have no information on HDAS can you confirm that it is not the
responsibility of NHS Evidence?

5) As with the above point, are you saying that NHS Evidence is not
spending money on SEO? I have heard from multiple sources that you are
spending a significant resource on this activity. I would welcome you
re-examining your files

On the 30 December 2010 you also asked:

6) I asked about costs over £50,000 and you listed a few. However, I was
under the impression that the following came from the NHS Evidence budget:
Eduserv for Athens, Wiley for Cochrane, SCHIN for Clinical Knowledge
Service, OCLC for the LinkResolver, Credo Reference for Medical
Dictionaries. Is that not the case?
If they are included in the budget can you explain why these were missed
in your initial response? Also, if they're included, can you give the
actual costs.

Your request for information has now been considered and accepted with the
following response being issued in compliance with the act.

1) I do not feel your interpretation of managers is unrealistic. Can
you re-analyse for bands of 8a or above please.

We believe you mean that you do feel our interpretation of managers is
unrealistic.

Under Section 21 of the FOI Act, we are not required to provide
information in response to a request if it is already reasonably
accessible to you. The information you have requested (regarding number of
NHS Evidence staff on pay band 8a and above) can be found on the NICE
website at the following page: 
[1]http://www.nice.org.uk/website/freedomof...

2) If we assume an average salary of 30,000 with 50% on-costs and with
your 44 staff = £2 million. Does that mean the rest of the money (in
2009/10 = £2.36 million and 2010/11 = £3.68 million) is spent on
consultants? If that's not correct can you tell me how much you have spent
on consultants?

Your assumption is not correct.  Our 09/10 spend on contractors was
£2,813,258. We have defined contractors as anyone who was employed within
NHS Evidence on a temporary contract.

3) I highlighted that there was a discrepancy of £17 million in the
budget and asked for every item over £50,000. You highlighted 5 items
that came to £6 million. Can you confirm that the remaining £11 million
is made up from items under £50,000.

The remainder is not made up entirely of sub-£50,000 items; however the
detail of all contracts above £50,000 has already been published at:
[2]http://www.nice.org.uk/media/542/71/Main....

The remainder is approximately £5m and includes all individual items
under £50,000, the contribution to overheads and the unallocated funds of
approx £3m.

4) As you have no information on HDAS can you confirm that it is not
the responsibility of NHS Evidence?

I can confirm that the HDAS service is just one of the many web services
maintained by NICE. The individuals that maintain and develop this service
also maintain and develop the NHS Evidence search portal, the specialist
collections and other digital services provided by NICE. The non-HR costs
are also not differentiated. There is no resource that is entirely
dedicated to HDAS and so the overhead costs for maintaining the service
cannot be directly attributed and reported.

You had previously asked us "How much resource is being spent (cost and
staff resource) in maintaining and developing the HDAS resource?" (Our
ref: EH05374).  The FOI Act relates to requests for recorded
information. As the information requested does not exist it cannot be
provided, and so we advised you that this information is not held by NICE.

5) As with the above point, are you saying that NHS Evidence is not
spending money on SEO? I have heard from multiple sources that you are
spending a significant resource on this activity. I would welcome you
re-examining your files

You previously asked "I understand you are spending a considerable sum on
search engine optimisation (SEO). Can you say how much you're spending on
this activity and, assuming it's successful, will any increase in activity
be recorded as people directly searching NHS Evidence or quoted
separately?" (Our ref: EH05374).

The FOI Act relates to requests for information held on record. We do not
hold recorded information of funds directly allocated to SEO. Instead,
activity is undertaken on an ad hoc basis. We therefore advised you that
we do not hold the information requested.

6) I asked about costs over £50,000 and you listed a few. However, I
was under the impression that the following came from the NHS Evidence
budget: Eduserv for Athens, Wiley for Cochrane, SCHIN for Clinical
Knowledge Service, OCLC for the LinkResolver, Credo Reference for Medical
Dictionaries. Is that not the case?
If they are included in the budget can you explain why these were missed
in your initial response? Also, if they're included, can you give the
actual costs.

Under Section 21 of the FOI Act, we are not required to provide
information in response to a request if it is already reasonably
accessible to you. The details of the total contract values that NICE and
NHS Evidence has can be found listed on the NICE website, via the
following page:
[3]http://www.nice.org.uk/media/542/71/Main....

We should have referred to this information in our response to your
earlier enquiry (our ref: EH05374). We are sorry that you were not
referred to this information at that time.

If you are unhappy with this response and wish to make a formal complaint
it must be made in writing by letter, fax or email within 20 working days
of the Institute's response to you and sent to:

Alana Christopher

Associate Director, Corporate Office

National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence

MidCity Place

71 High Holborn

London WC1V 6NA

Email: [4][email address]

Once we have received your complaint, you will be sent an acknowledgement
within two working days. The Associate Director, Corporate Office, will
review your complaint and a full reply will be sent to you within 20
working days.

If you are not content with the outcome your complaint, you may apply
directly to the Information Commissioner for a decision who can be
contacted at: The Information Commissioner's Office, Wycliffe House, Water
Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire SK9 5AF.

Yours sincerely,

Natalie

Natalie Whelan

Communications Executive (Enquiry Handling)

National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence
Level 1A | City Tower | Piccadilly Plaza | Manchester M1 4BD | United
Kingdom
Tel: 44 (0)845 003 7781 | Fax: 44 (0)845 003 7785

Web: [5]http://nice.org.uk

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