New trains on Gospel Oak to Barking line

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Dear Transport for London,
I would like the following information regarding the Gospel Oak to Barking line on London Overground:
1 By which date do you expect the class 710 Aventras to be in passenger service?
2 If not for the late delivery, software problems and delayed electrification, when would they have started passenger service?
3 Can you provide the audio announcements of class 172, class 378 and class 710 (if ready) on this line?
4 The timetable for when the new trains are ready
Thank you in advance for taking the time to answer my questions.

Yours faithfully,

Sarah Gross

FOI, Transport for London

Dear Sarah Gross

 

Our ref: FOI-0537-1920/GH

 

Thank you for your request received by Transport for London (TfL) on 22
May 2019 asking for information about the Gospel Oak to Barking line.

 

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Dear FOI,
ref: FOI-0537-1920/GH
Thank you for acknowledging my request. Question 1 is no longer relevant considering that the new trains have already started service but I would still like answers to my other questions, including question 4 because I don't yet have the current timetable.

Yours sincerely,

Sarah

FOI, Transport for London

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Dear Sarah Gross

 

Our ref: FOI-0537-1920/GH

 

Thank you for your request received by Transport for London (TfL) on 22
May 2019 asking for information about the Gospel Oak to Barking line.

 

Your request has been considered under the requirements of the Freedom of
Information Act 2000 and our information access policy. I can confirm that
we do hold the information you require.

 

1 By which date do you expect the class 710 Aventras to be in passenger
service?

There are two CL 710 in passenger service, these entered passenger service
on the 23 May 2019.

 

2 If not for the late delivery, software problems and delayed
electrification, when would they have started passenger service?

Cl 710 were due to enter passenger service around March 2018

 

3 Can you provide the audio announcements of class 172, class 378 and
class 710 (if ready) on this line?

London Overground announcements are recorded in fragments. We do not hold
them specifically for individual trains or sections of the line. If you
would like the general announcements that we hold, please provide us with
your postal address as these can be sent to you on CD.

 

4 The timetable for when the new trains are ready

The new trains are in various states of manufacture. The order of 45 units
are due to be delivered by the end of 2019

 

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to contact me.

 

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Yours sincerely

 

Graham Hurt

 

FOI Case Officer

FOI Case Management Team

General Counsel

Transport for London

 

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Dear FOI,
Question 4 "The timetable for when the new trains are ready"
I was asking for an actual timetable, with departure times from each station on the line.

Yours sincerely,

Sarah

Lewis Western left an annotation ()

Your question four is really unclear.

FOI, Transport for London

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Dear Sarah

 

Our ref: FOI-0820-1920

 

Thank you for your request received by Transport for London (TfL) on 19
June 2019 asking for information about London Overground timetables.

 

Your request has been considered under the requirements of the Freedom of
Information Act 2000 and our information access policy. I can confirm that
we do hold the information you require.

 

London Overground Timetables can be found here:

 

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They are published every 3 months before timetable change dates in May and
December each year.

 

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Yours sincerely

 

Graham Hurt

 

FOI Case Officer

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General Counsel

Transport for London

 

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Dear FOI,
Thank you for the timetable, although it's a shame there was no timetable when the trains were running 'every 15-30 minutes'.

As for the announcements, it isn't possible that the announcements are the same for all trains on the line. There are obvious differences between the announcement on class 378 and class 710, and both are different to the announcements that class 172 had.

If I provide a postal address, it will be available to the public on whatdotheyknow.com. Can you please provide the announcements as audio files?

Yours sincerely,

Sarah

FOI, Transport for London

We did not say that the announcements are the same for all train on the line, we stated that the announcements are recorded in fragments, and that we do not hold them specifically for individual trains or sections of the line.

If you would like a CD sent to you containing all the London Overground announcements, you can contact us direct to provide your postal address by emailing us at [email address] ( FOI @ tfl.gov.uk - with no spaces )

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Dear FOI,
Thank you for your reply.
Does the CD contain the announcements of:
Class 172 ("The next station is Barking, our final stop. Change here..."),
Class 378 Gospel Oak-Barking ("Change here for Walthamstow Central Station") and
Class 710 ("This is the train to Gospel Oak")?
Yours sincerely,

Sarah