Neptune Developments

John H Hutchinson made this Freedom of Information request to Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council

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John H Hutchinson

Dear Wirral Borough Council,
I shall be grateful if you will direct me to the secret report that was detailed in the Wirral News at

http://www.wirralnews.co.uk/wirral-news/....

Yours faithfully,

John H Hutchinson

InfoMgr, FinDMT, Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council

Good Afternoon,
Thank you for your email below. There is no secret report, however I
believe the report to which the newspaper article alludes was one
presented at Cabinet on 18th March 2010. The details of the Cabinet
meeting are in the public domain and can be viewed at the link below.
The specific item on the Neptune Development is item 374. The link also
gives details as to the restrictions on item 374 and the background to
it.

http://democracy.wirral.gov.uk/ieListDoc...
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Kind Regards
Jane Corrin
Information Manager
Wirral Council

This information supplied to you is copyrighted to Wirral Council and
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1988. You are free to use it for your own purposes, including any non
Commercial research you are doing and for the purposes of news
reporting. Any other reuse, for example commercial publication, would
require our specific permission, may involve licensing and the
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John H Hutchinson

Dear InfoMgr, FinDMT,
the minute may be in the public domain but the details are exempted.

By following the links from the Agenda to other documents, one either receives an error message (page unavailable) or reads a document similar to the minute or is redirected to the minute.

There are eight exempt items on Cabinet Agenda 18 March 2010 all of which are important because money is involved. The links from other documents on the agenda similarly lead nowhere.

How may we break this veil of secrecy, please?

I shall be grateful if you will re-direct this email string to the DCEO so that I may investigate this problem more deeply, especially since there is on the Agenda an item about a new Law concerning open government.

I shall be grateful if DCEO will regard this a new FoIA request.

Yours sincerely,

John H Hutchinson

Alex Skene left an annotation ()

You might want to point the Council at ICO Decision Notice FS50090383
http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/d... (see paragraphs 50-52)

InfoMgr, FinDMT, Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council

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Good Morning,
Thank you for your email below.
I checked the link before I sent it to you and it worked and took me to
the appropriate location with no errors. I have rechecked the link
below and again it takes one to the details of the cabinet meeting.

The report in question is an exempt report and cannot be viewed by the
public but the background to the report and recorded information on why
items are exempt is displayed.

http://democracy.wirral.gov.uk/ieListDoc...
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In case your technical difficulties persist, I have copied and pasted
the relevant text into documents which are attached and include:-

Agenda Front Sheet
Copy of the Printed Minutes
Reasons why the stated item is exempted

All this information is available via our website and again I have
checked all attachments which open easily and contain the recorded
information relating to your request.

I have also checked all the links to the 8 exempted items and these are
working correctly. The Council realises that on rare occasions there
may be a technical error which causes a webpage to display incorrectly.
In these circumstances, there are contact arrangements in place to
report the problem. These are detailed below at a link, which has been
checked as working.

http://www.wirral.gov.uk/ContactUs/Conta...

Kind Regards
Jane Corrin
Information Manager
Wirral Council

This information supplied to you is copyrighted to Wirral Council and
continues to be protected by the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act
1988. You are free to use it for your own purposes, including any non
Commercial research you are doing and for the purposes of news
reporting. Any other reuse, for example commercial publication, would
require our specific permission, may involve licensing and the
application of a charge.

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John H Hutchinson

Dear InfoMgr, FinDMT,

thank you for the information.

I confirm that the link is working. The fault must have been temporary and I apologise for my impatience.

As I said in my email, the minute may be in the public domain but the details are exempted.

The agenda, for which I thank you, at Item 36. NEPTUNE DEVELOPMENT, NEW BRIGHTON - PROGRESS
REPORT says "Report to follow." Tax-payers learn nothing.

The Public Document Pack for Cabinet of 18 March 2010 does not provide Tax-payers with any usable or useful information since it employs a much truncated style of reportage and is exempt.

The "Reasons restricted" document does not say how the interests of the parties would be adversely affected.

Let me lead you through the links as if from my desk.
1. At the Agenda and Draft Minutes Item 374,
1a. click link to "View the reasons why item 374. is restricted"
1b. Takes one to the "Reasons restricted" document that I have described above.

2. Click link to "View the background to item 374."
2a. Leads to "Issue details
New Brighton Development - Proposed Health Club / Lido"
2b. At "Details" that is what one gets but no information.
2c. At "History" one gets "Neptune Development, New Brighton - Progress Report"
2ci. Click on that, one gets "Error - page unavailable"
2d. At "History" click on "Neptune Development, New Brighton - Progress Report" (see at 2c above)
2di. One gets the same as the Agenda Draft Minute Item 374.

Conclusion. On this single Cabinet item, tax-payers are led round in circles and learn nothing.

One obtains similar results for the other items to which I have referred in my previous email.

It is not enough for you to say that Council realises that on rare occasions there
may be a technical error which causes a web page to display incorrectly but there are contact arrangements in place to
report the problem. It has taken me much effort to reach this stage of inconclusivivity and others would not have gone this far, which perhaps is what Council is seeking.

My question remains to be answered; namely,

how may we break this veil of secrecy, please?

Tax-payers are being treated contemptuously and therefore, to repeat myself, I shall be grateful if you will re-direct this email string to the
DCEO so that I may investigate this problem more deeply, especially
since there is on the Agenda an item about a new Law concerning
open government.

I shall be grateful if DCEO will regard this as a new FoIA request because I have moved on to the general issue of secrecy that I am addressing not faults, real, imagined, temporary or permanent with the Neptune Developments Report, secret or restricted, to Cabinet.

Yours sincerely,

Yours sincerely,

John H Hutchinson

John H Hutchinson

Dear Wirral Borough Council,
further to my email, I shall be grateful if Council will issue a formal
Refusal Notice stating which exemption under the FOI Act upon which it is relying because Schedule 12A of LGA 1972 ("restricted items") is no bar to disclosure under FOIA.

For your guidance, may I direct you to ICO Decision Notice dated 30 July 2007 relating to S.50 of the Act, which can be read at
http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/d...

Yours faithfully,

John H Hutchinson

John H Hutchinson

Dear Wirral Borough Council,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Wirral Borough Council's handling of my FOI request 'Neptune Developments' because
1) my request for a formal Refusal Notice has not been answered.

2) my request for further comment from the DCEO has not been answered.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ne...

Yours faithfully,

John H Hutchinson