National Domestic Extremism and Disorder Intelligence Unit

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Dear Metropolitan Police Service (MPS),

Please could you confirm the total number of individuals currently classified as potential 'domestic extremists' and recorded on the database of the National Domestic Extremism and Disorder Intelligence Unit?

Yours faithfully,

Kevin Blowe

Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr. Blowe

Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2014030001361
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"Please could you confirm the total number of individuals currently
classified as potential 'domestic extremists' and recorded on the database
of the National Domestic Extremism and Disorder Intelligence Unit? "

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Dear Mr Blowe

Freedom of Information Act Request Reference No: 2014030001361
I write in connection with your request for information  which was
received by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 13/03/2014.  I note
you seek access to the following information:

·        Please could you confirm the total number of individuals
currently classified as potential 'domestic extremists' and recorded on
the database of the National Domestic Extremism and Disorder Intelligence
Unit?

Could I please ask do you to clarify do you  want the number of people who
have their own record on the database or do you want the number of
individuals who are mentioned on the database.

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Yours sincerely,

Karen Fox
Information Manager
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Dear Metropolitan Police Service (MPS),

Thanks for the prompt request for clarification.

Please could you confirm just the number of people who
have their own record on the database?

Yours faithfully,

Kevin Blowe

Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr Blowe

Freedom of Information Request Reference No:  2014030001361

I write in connection with your request for information which was received
by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 13/03/2014.  I note you seek
access to the following information:

·        Please could you confirm the total number of individuals
currently classified as potential 'domestic extremists' and recorded on
the database of the National Domestic Extremism and Disorder Intelligence
Unit?

EXTENT OF SEARCHES TO LOCATE INFORMATION

To locate the information relevant to your request searches were conducted
at the Counter Terrorism Command

DECISION

I have today decided to disclose the located information to you in full.

Please find attached information pursuant to your request above.

There are currently 2627 individuals on the database that have their own
record. However I would like to explain that there is no legal definition
of Domestic Extremists and so these individuals may not be classified as
potential domestic extremists. However a new definition was recently
agreed and publicised by the Commissioner at a MOPAC challenge panel.
 
 The new working definition of Domestic Extremism is therefore;
 “Domestic Extremism relates to the activity of groups or individuals who
commit or plan serious criminal activity motivated by a political or
ideological viewpoint

COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Your attention is drawn to the attached sheet which details your right of
complaint.

Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please
contact me quoting the reference number above.

Yours sincerely

Karen Fox
Information Manager
COMPLAINT RIGHTS

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decision is incorrect?

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review their decision.

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response with the case officer who dealt with your request.  

Complaint

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the MPS made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act) regarding
access to information you can lodge a complaint with the MPS to have the
decision reviewed.

Complaints should be made in writing, within forty (40) working days from
the date of the refusal notice, and addressed to:

FOI Complaint
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PO Box 57192
London
SW6 1SF
[email address]

In all possible circumstances the MPS will aim to respond to your
complaint within 20 working days.
The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with the MPS if you are still dissatisfied with
the decision you may make application to the Information Commissioner for
a decision on whether the request for information has been dealt with in
accordance with the requirements of the Act.

For information on how to make application to the Information Commissioner
please visit their website at www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk.
 Alternatively, phone or write to:

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Phone:  01625 545 700

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Kevin Blowe left an annotation ()

Information from this FOI request appears in this article:

"So who exactly IS now classified as a ‘Domestic Extremist’?" - http://netpol.org/2014/04/22/new-definit...

Dear Metropolitan Police Service (MPS),

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)'s handling of my FOI request 'National Domestic Extremism and Disorder Intelligence Unit'.

In your response, you indicated that there are " currently 2627 individuals on the database that have their own record". However, I believe that this response may have been made in error.

A more recent FOIA request (not one made by me) indicates that just five months after the information you provided, in September 2014, the Metropolitan Police was claiming 7500 individuals on the national domestic extremism database (see http://www.met.police.uk/foi/pdfs/disclo....

The discrepancy in the figures is so significant that it appears a mistake or a misinterpretation of your data may have been made back in April.

Please can you therefore provide a definitive clarification of the number of individuals currently recorded on the database of the National Domestic Extremism and Disorder Intelligence Unit?

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/n...

Yours faithfully,

Kevin Blowe

Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr. Blowe

Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2014110001197

I write in connection with your request for a review of the original MPS
decision relating to case number 2014030001361 which was received by the
Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 13/11/2014.  

Your request for a review will now be considered in accordance with the
Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act).  You will receive a response to
your request for a review of the original MPS case within a timescale of
20 working days.  In some circumstances the MPS may be unable to achieve
this deadline.  If this is likely you will be informed and given a revised
time-scale at the earliest opportunity.

COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Your attention is drawn to the attached sheet, which details your right of
complaint.

Yours sincerely

S. Stroud
FOIA Advisor
COMPLAINT RIGHTS

The Information Commissioner

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the decision you may make application to the Information Commissioner for
a decision on whether the request for information has been dealt with in
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Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone:  01625 545 700

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email. The MPS accepts no responsibility for unauthorised agreements
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Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

Dear Mr. Blowe

Freedom of Information Review Reference Number: 2014110001197

I write in connection with your correspondence dated  13th November 2014
requesting that the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) review its response
to your request for information (ref: 2014030001361).  Please find below a
response to your complaint.

Clarified original request - 20th March 2014

Please could you confirm the number of people who have their own record on
the database of the National Domestic Extremism and Disorder Intelligence
Unit?

MPS response summary - 11th April 2014

There are currently 2627 individuals on the database that have their own
record.

Request to review - 13th November 2014

In your response, you indicated that there are "currently 2627 individuals
on the database that have their own record". However, I believe that this
response may have been made in error.

A more recent FOIA request (not one made by me) indicates that just five
months after the information you provided, in September 2014, the
Metropolitan Police was claiming 7500 individuals on the national
domestic extremism database (see
http://www.met.police.uk/foi/pdfs/disclo....

The discrepancy in the figures is so significant that it appears a mistake
or a misinterpretation of your data may have been made back in April.
Please can you therefore provide a definitive clarification of the number
of individuals currently recorded on the database of the National Domestic
Extremism and Disorder Intelligence Unit?

REVIEW DECISION

·        The MPS has completed its internal review and has decided to
uphold the original decision provided to you in April 2014.

REASON FOR DECISION

Subject of request

You sought the number of people who have their own record on the database
of the National Domestic Extremism and Disorder Intelligence Unit.

Original response by MPS

·        The MPS provided a full disclosure and advised you there were
currently 2627 individuals on the database that have their own record.

Review Considerations

·        I have viewed the link to which you refer and having carried out
an internal review of the Metropolitan Police Service handling of your
FoIA request 2014030001361, the review can confirm that the figure of 2627
individuals provided in the response, was correct at the time.

·        In order to clarify the confusion, I would like to point out
that, the document that was published on the Metropolitan Police Service
Freedom of Information page in September 2014, which you refer to in your
communication, is not a more recent FoIA request but is a response to a
FoIA request dated 2013.

Yours sincerely

Mike Lyng
Freedom of Information Act Complaints.

COMPLAINT RIGHTS

The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with the MPS if you are still dissatisfied with
the decision you may make application to the Information Commissioner for
a decision on whether the request for information has been dealt with in
accordance with the requirements of the Act.

For information on how to make application to the Information Commissioner
please visit their website at www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk.
 Alternatively, phone or write to:

Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone:  01625 545 700

Total Policing is the Met's commitment to be on the streets and in your
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