Medical School Learning Outcomes

Ben Evans made this Freedom of Information request to St George's University of London

This request has been closed to new correspondence from the public body. Contact us if you think it ought be re-opened.

Waiting for an internal review by St George's University of London of their handling of this request.

Dear St George’s University of London,

I would like to request all 'Learning Outcomes' or structured learning objectives given to medical students in Years 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and or 6 where applicable.

This may be limited to a handbook or may be structured pdf documents that are given for each module, where applicable both are requested.

Yours faithfully,

Ben Evans

Dear St George’s University of London,

I note that you have failed to reply to this FOIA request. Please consider this email as a reminder as to your legal responsibilities to reply to FOI requests promptly.

I have added more information to help preemptively prevent any clarification request.

Thank you for your reply, and while your apology is noted, I must say I am disappointed that the University chose to use the last available day within the FOIA as the clarification date.

I am requesting the information given to your students as the Learning Outcomes/Learning objectives that are provided, presumably in modular form to students to give them an indication of what they need to gain from certain lectures.

An example of a learning outcome would be 'Describe the anatomy of the head & neck' this might be contained within a document given to the students named 'Anatomy & Movement'. A number of these documents would constitute all learning outcomes given to the first year medical students.

For the avoidance of doubt, these learning outcomes/learning objectives or integrated learning points may be contained in a pdf, or a handbook given to students upon commencing each year of medical school.

The University of Sheffield responded to this FOI request and released the request information in a pdf form available here:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...

Yours faithfully,

Ben Evans

Dear St George’s University of London,

I must apologise, I provided the wrong University and link in the above email.

It should have linked to Southampton's University publication of their learning outcomes available here:

http://www.southampton.ac.uk/programmesp...

Yours faithfully,

Ben Evans

Dear St George’s University of London,

Your response is long overdue - I am referring this to the Information Commissioner. I am also giving you the opportunity to conduct an internal review.

Your internal review officer may wish to view the following documentation; the same request made to all UK medical schools, a significant number of which have been successful, the others are currently undergoing internal review.

These can be viewed using the following links or by accessing my 'profile' on Whatdotheyknow.com

I have made the same request to every UK medical school. Here are a number of positive responses for your internal review team to assess;

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...
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I don't believe this information to be commercially sensitive, nor to impact on the regular running operations of the medical school were it to be released. It is released every year to hundreds of students without a proviso, nor is it reclaimed from students who are expelled, suspended or otherwise taken out of their studies at your University.

I appreciate you taking the time to undertake this review, I will be passing this in due course to the ICO if it is unsuccessful as I don't believe the University has met its obligation; the information does not appear a trade secret and as such the university is obligated to release it.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...

Yours faithfully,

Ben Evans

Freedom of Information, St George's University of London

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Dear Sir,

We attach our response to your recent Freedom of Information request plus two enclosures.

We would apologise for the delay with this response.

There was not a question of refusing to provide you with this information, but there was a problem in getting the information to you in a timely fashion, and for this we sincerely apologise.

If we can be of further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best wishes.

Sheila Durkin
Governance Manager
Governance Legal and Assurance Services
St George’s, University of London
Email [email address]
Telephone 020 8725 4698

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Dear Ms Durkin,

Thank you for your response, while delayed.

Unfortunately it has not addressed my FOIA request, as I explicitly stated in a later email, I am looking for

"I am requesting the information given to your students as the Learning Outcomes/Learning objectives that are provided, presumably in modular form to students to give them an indication of what they need to gain from certain lectures.

An example of a learning outcome would be 'Describe the anatomy of the head & neck' this might be contained within a document given to the students named 'Anatomy & Movement'. A number of these documents would constitute all learning outcomes given to the first year medical students.

For the avoidance of doubt, these learning outcomes/learning objectives or integrated learning points may be contained in a pdf, or a handbook given to students upon commencing each year of medical school."

Can you confirm that the information you provided is the only anatomical learning outcomes/integrated learning points given to medical students at your University. If this is the case then my request is complete, if not then please can you provide the information as originally requested, under the timeline of the original act.

Yours sincerely,

Ben Evans

Freedom of Information, St George's University of London

Dear Sir,

Thank you for your communication.

Learning outcomes are listed in the Programme Specification document sent with our response.

You previously sent us a link to a programme specification document from another university and advised that this was what you sought.

We have therefore sent you the equivalent document for St George's University of London and regarded this request closed?

Should you require additional information please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best wishes.

Sheila Durkin
Governance Manager
Governance Legal and Assurance Services
St George’s, University of London
Email [email address]
Telephone 020 8725 4698

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Dear Ms Dunkin,

Thank you for your response,

I understand where some confusion had arisen.

However as I am sure you can see from my follow up email, copied in below for your convenience, this was not the information I was requesting.

"I have added more information to help preemptively prevent any clarification request.

Thank you for your reply, and while your apology is noted, I must say I am disappointed that the University chose to use the last available day within the FOIA as the clarification date.

I am requesting the information given to your students as the Learning Outcomes/Learning objectives that are provided, presumably in modular form to students to give them an indication of what they need to gain from certain lectures.

An example of a learning outcome would be 'Describe the anatomy of the head & neck' this might be contained within a document given to the students named 'Anatomy & Movement'. A number of these documents would constitute all learning outcomes given to the first year medical students.

For the avoidance of doubt, these learning outcomes/learning objectives or integrated learning points may be contained in a pdf, or a handbook given to students upon commencing each year of medical school."

An accurate response to this request is available here from Queens University Belfast:

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/4...

Yours sincerely,

Ben Evans

Dear Freedom of Information,

Liverpool have undertaken an internal review and have published the exact information I requested.
They originally rejected the request under Section 43 or trade secret rules. However their internal reviewer agrees that this information does not fall under that category and instead should be published.

You may wish to view a link to the documents released as it shows the information exactly that I wish to access.

If you are currently undertaking an internal review of this matter, please pass this information to the reviewer as I am sure it will be helpful to their process.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...

I look forward to receiving the published outcomes from your University.

Yours sincerely,

Ben Evans

Freedom of Information, St George's University of London

Dear Mr Evans,

Thank you for your further email.

Please be assured that we are surveying related data, and a further response will be with you as soon as possible.

Best wishes.

Sheila Durkin
Governance Manager
Governance Legal and Assurance Services
St George’s, University of London
Email [email address]
Telephone 020 8725 4698

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Freedom of Information, St George's University of London

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Dear Sir,

We attach our response to your further Freedom of Information request.

Best wishes.

Sheila Durkin
Governance Manager
Governance Legal and Assurance Services
St George’s, University of London
Email [email address]
Telephone 020 8725 4698

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Dear Shelia Durkin,

Please can you confirm that this latest release is after undertaking an internal review - this is so that I can forward this on to the information commissioner as I am not satisfied with your release.

If not, please accept this message as a request for an expedited internal review.

Your internal review officer may wish to view the following documentation; the same request made to all UK medical schools, the large majority of which have been successful following internal review.

These can be viewed using the following links or by accessing my 'profile' on Whatdotheyknow.com

I have made the same request to every UK medical school. Here are a number of positive responses for your internal review team to assess;

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...

I don't believe this information to be commercially sensitive, nor to impact on the regular running operations of the medical school were it to be released. It is released every year to hundreds of students without a proviso, nor is it reclaimed from students who are expelled, suspended or otherwise taken out of their studies at your University.

I appreciate you taking the time to undertake this review, I will be passing this in due course to the ICO if it is unsuccessful as I don't believe the University has met its obligation; the information does not appear a trade secret and as such the university is obligated to release it.

Yours sincerely,

Ben Evans