M5 J16-17 5am-6am 17th September 2017

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Dear Highways England Company Limited,

With reference to the freedom of information act please could you provide me with information on the speed limit between junction 16-17 of the M5 between 5am and 6am on Sunday 17th September?

Thank you

Yours faithfully,

Lisa Malone

Highways England, Highways England Company Limited

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Price, Gareth, Highways England Company Limited

Dear Ms Malone

 

Could you confirm which carriageway of the M5 you are referring to in your
query about speed limits please on the 17/09/17? Northbound or southbound?
I will then be able to look into your query.

 

Yours Sincerely,

 

Gareth Price, Regional Enforcement Co-ordinator
Highways England | Brunel House | 930 Hempton Court | Aztec West | Bristol
| BS32 4SR

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Dear Price, Gareth,

5.07am j17-16 Northbound please. If you could provide the information on the ones before and after this junction too it would be appreciated. Never in 30 years driving have I seen 20 mph limit on a motorway, at this time with barely any traffic I shouldn't imagine it would be safe. My son has had a notice of prosecution, he's a very safe driver, it's bizarre.

Thank you

Yours sincerely,

Lisa Malone

Price, Gareth, Highways England Company Limited

Our ref: 18527433

 

Dear Ms Malone

 

Thank you for your email of 25/09/172017 about speed limits on the M5.

 

This response has not been carried out under the Freedom of Information
Act as this is information we provide on a regular basis to our customers.

 

Highways England records some signal data for operational purposes;
however our database is not certified or calibrated to enforcement
standards, and it is not connected to the variable speed cameras. It may
contain errors, particularly in the times at which particular speed limits
were recorded, since (unlike the enforcement cameras) it was not designed
to provide 100% accuracy. This means that the records we hold do not
constitute legal proof of what speed limit was displayed, and could not be
relied on in court for the purpose of challenging a speeding ticket.

 

In order to answer your query, I consulted the information available to me
in this database; this indicates that between 0500 and 0600hrs hrs on the
17/09/17, a reduced speed limit of 20mph was in effect on the M5
northbound J17-J16 due to a fatal accident closing the M5 at J16.A 20mph
speed limit was set as this is required by the standards set for the signs
and signals system when a full carriageway closure is in place on the
motorway at this junction.

 

The electronic signals on the M5 have been installed as part of the
J17-J16 smart motorway scheme. The aim of this scheme is to actively
control traffic flow and reduce congestion, using variable speed limits
set in response to conditions on the road, as well as by opening up the
hard shoulder as a running lane at busy periods. Existing smart motorways
have successfully reduced congestion without compromising safety, at a
significantly lower construction cost to the taxpayer than traditional
road widening.

 

Enforcement is one of a number of measures which are used to encourage
compliance with speed limits, so that the benefits of the scheme can be
delivered to road users. Camera warning signs are used to ensure drivers
are aware that enforcement is in operation on these sections. Variable
speed enforcement cameras are operated by the Police, and the information
generated by them is not held by Highways England; this means that I do
not have access to any details of offences recorded.

 

However, I can tell you that the cameras are certified by the Home Office,
to ensure that they operate fairly and provide legal proof of what speed
limit was displayed. This involves strict design requirements which mean
that they can only enforce a reduced speed limit if it is correctly
displayed and the system is working properly; they are not capable of
enforcing a different limit to the one which is displayed. Because of
this, confirmation of the speed limit can only come from the information
held by the Police, which I understand has been issued in the form of a
Notice of Intended Prosecution.

 

I hope that the information I have provided helps to explain why this
system is needed, and that there are safeguards in place to ensure it
operates fairly.

 

We hope this answers your enquiry. If you have any further queries, please
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Kind regards,

 

Gareth Price

Regional Enforcement Co-ordinator

Highways England | Brunel House | 930 Hempton Court | Aztec West |
Almondsbury | BS32 4SR
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Dear Price, Gareth,

Thanks for the response, so my sons going to loose his license over these cameras, when actually a majority of people have the common sense to slow down where theres traffic or an issue before being told to do so by an illuminated sign. It's a long clear stretch of road he was doing a safe speed in the circumstances, now we stand to face a huge fine and him loosing his license and job. As if a fatal road accident isn't bad enough to make people think and drive safely, he has a black box in his car and is a very safe driver.

Great!

Yours sincerely,

Lisa Malone

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