Dear HM Treasury,
In the Independent Loan Charge Review conducted by Sir Amyas Morse
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He refers to meeting with several organisations, individuals and MPs to gather evidence.
For example, in his Executive summary he refers to having met ‘“several MPs”

Further on in the report he states :
“ it is right to make clear that I have met a range of individuals impacted by the Loan Charge, along with the Loan Charge Action Group (LCAG), the All-Party Parliamentary Loan Charge Group (Loan Charge APPG), MPs from all the major UK-wide parties, specialist tax advisers, and
representative bodies. I also met with HM Treasury (HMT) and HMRC officials, who
answered a great number of specific questions”

Presumably detailed Minutes were kept of such meetings?
Given that this ‘Independent enquiry’ is in the public domain, and that MPs gave evidence voluntarily, can you please advise specifically
1. Which MPs did Sir Amyas Morse consult with? Individual names please.
2. Are the Minutes of these meeting available in public records?
3. If not, why not?
I await your response
Yours faithfully,

Lynn Webb

FOI Requests, HM Treasury

Our ref: FOI2023/16327

Dear Lynn Webb,

Thank you for your request for information which we are considering under
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This is to confirm receipt of your request and to let you know that it is
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Dear Lynn Webb

Please find attached a response to your recent FOI request.

Yours sincerely

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Dear FOI Requests,

I am writing to follow up on my previous Freedom of Information request FOI2023/16327, with your response received on 7/11/2023.
I appreciate the information provided in your reply and your reference to the Independent Loan Charge Review report for details on MPs consulted.
However, I seek further specific details regarding this matter.
In my original enquiry under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, I sought information about the Independent Loan Charge Review conducted by Sir Amyas Morse, particularly concerning meetings with MPs.
Following your guidance, I have identified two MPs, namely David Davis and Ian Duncan-Smith, who were consulted as part of the review.
I would like to request the following information:

1. Minutes of Meetings with David Davis:
Please provide any minutes or documented summaries of the meetings between Sir Amyas Morse (or representatives of the Independent Loan Charge Review) and MP David Davis.
2. Minutes of Meetings with Sir Iain Duncan-Smith:
Similarly, I request any minutes or documented summaries of the meetings between Sir Amyas Morse (or representatives of the Independent Loan Charge Review) and MP Sir Iain Duncan-Smith.

I understand that certain details may be redacted for privacy or confidentiality reasons. However, I am particularly interested in the content of discussions, decisions, or viewpoints shared during these meetings.
If these documents are not available, I would appreciate an explanation as to why they are not accessible and whether they exist in any format within the department.

Yours sincerely,

Lynn Webb

FOI Requests, HM Treasury

Dear Lynn Webb,

Thank you for your email regarding your request for an internal review.

I can confirm that your review request was received on 5th December and is
receiving attention under our reference IR2023/20239.

There is no statutory deadline for responding to internal review requests.

However, in line with the Information Commissioner's guidelines and the
[1]2018 FOI Code of Practice, we aim to complete  internal reviews within
20 working days.

Yours sincerely

Information Rights Unit | Correspondence and Information Rights | HM
Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A 2HQ  
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Dear FOI Requests,
I note that you have allocated my request as an Internal Review. This is a mistake.
You will note that there is nothing in my request that indicates I wanted an Internal Review. I did NOT request an internal review. I request that you allocate my latest remain as a follow on FOI for FOI2023/16327 and that the response is expected 20 working days from when you were in receipt of it.

Yours sincerely,

Lynn Webb

Dear FOI Requests,
I sent a follow up response to this FOI ref IR2023/20239
On Dec 5th as follows :
“ I am writing to follow up on my previous Freedom of Information request FOI2023/16327, with your response received on 7/11/2023.

I appreciate the information provided in your reply and your reference to the Independent Loan Charge Review report for details on MPs consulted. However, I seek further specific details regarding this matter.

In my original enquiry under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, I sought information about the Independent Loan Charge Review conducted by Sir Amyas Morse, particularly concerning meetings with MPs.

Following your guidance, I have identified two MPs, namely David Davis and Ian Duncan-Smith, who were consulted as part of the review.
I would like to request the following information:

1. Minutes of Meetings with David Davis:
Please provide any minutes or documented summaries of the meetings between Sir Amyas Morse (or representatives of the Independent Loan Charge Review) and MP David Davis.
2. Minutes of Meetings with Sir Iain Duncan-Smith:
Similarly, I request any minutes or documented summaries of the meetings between Sir Amyas Morse (or representatives of the Independent Loan Charge Review) and MP Sir Iain Duncan-Smith.

I understand that certain details may be redacted for privacy or confidentiality reasons. However, I am particularly interested in the content of discussions, decisions, or viewpoints shared during these meetings.
If these documents are not available, I would appreciate an explanation as to why they are not accessible and whether they exist in any format within the department”.

Your response was that you had ‘requested an internal review’. I advised on Dec 6th that I did NOT request an internal review.
This was a follow up request to my original FOI
Please confirm that you received my mails , and will provide the requested information within the requisite 20 days.
Yours sincerely,

Lynn Webb

FOI Requests - HMT, HM Treasury

Good afternoon,

Thank you for your e-mail.

Apologies for the error on our behalf, I can confirm we are proceeding
with your request as an FOI and you should expect to hear from us in due
course in line with the standard timeframe.

Kind regards,

HMT Information Rights Unit | Corporate Centre Group | HM Treasury |
Ground Orange | 1 Horse Guards Road, SW1A 2HQ |
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Our ref: FOI2023/20483

Dear Lynn Webb,

Thank you for your request for information which we are considering under
the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

This is to confirm receipt of your request received 5th December 2023 and
to let you know that it is receiving attention. If you have any enquiries
regarding your request do not hesitate to contact us.

Please note: HM Treasury has a dedicated email address for the public to
make Freedom of Information requests: [email address]

Yours sincerely

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Dear Lynn Webb

Please find attached an interim response to your FOI Request.

Yours sincerely

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Dear FOI Requests - HMT,
Ref: FOU 2023/20483

I am in receipt of HMT’s response to my FOI request.
That is a LUDICROUS answer AND JUST A DELAYING TACTIC.

The information I have requested is no longer subject to ‘Formulation of a Government policy’ .
The policy went in to legislation in November 2017, and should therefore be available as a public record.

The Loan Charge is on the statute books - there is no more discussion over it. HMT are just using this narrative and ‘section 36’ to obfuscate what is basically a very straightforward FOI request to delay giving me what I have asked available, which HMT accept they hold on record.

Why could it possibly take ‘up to 4 weeks’ to forward information HMT hold on record as part of the Morse review? They do not have to ‘search’ for it!

If HMT do not give me the information I have asked for within the statutory FOI time limit - which is a perfectly reasonable request - I will take this matter up with my MP as this response is unacceptable.

Yours sincerely,

Lynn Webb

Dear HM Treasury,
I am waiting an acknowledgment to tte below response sent on January 9th
Ref: FOI 2023/20483
I am in receipt of HMT’s response to my FOI request. 
That is a LUDICROUS answer AND JUST A DELAYING TACTIC.
The information I have requested is no longer subject to ‘Formulation of a Government policy’ .

The policy went in to legislation in November 2017, and should therefore be available as a public record.
The Loan Charge is on the statute books - there is no more discussion over it.
HMT are just using this narrative and ‘section 36’ to obfuscate what is basically a very straightforward FOI request , to delay giving me what I have asked for - which HMT accept they hold on record.

How could it possibly take ‘up to 4 weeks’ to forward information HMT hold on record as part of the Morse review? They do not have to ‘search’ for it!

If HMT do not give me the information I have requested within the statutory FOI time limit - which is a perfectly reasonable request - I will take this matter up with my MP as this response is unacceptable.

Yours sincerely,
Lynn Webb

Yours faithfully,

Lynn Webb

FOI Requests, HM Treasury

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Dear Lynn Webb

Please find attached a response to your recent FOI request.

Yours sincerely

Information Rights Unit | Correspondence and Information Rights | HM
Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A 2HQ [1]www.gov.uk/hm-treasury

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