Liability Orders

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Dear Hyndburn Borough Council,

RE Liability Orders.

Can you categorically deny that the council do not hire, lease, rent, obtain, charter, utilise, occupy, make use of or borrow any space in the Magistrates’ Court? Can you confirm that there is no exchange of funds from Hyndburn Borough Council for council tax cases? I require crystal clarity with regard to these questions.

Yours faithfully,

David Phillips

foirequests, Hyndburn Borough Council

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foirequests, Hyndburn Borough Council

Dear David Phillips

Your request for information under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 has been considered and a response is below:

1. The Council do utilise and make use of space in the Magistrates' Court when exercising any of our functions that allow us to bring, defend or be witness to cases that are being heard in the Magistrates' Court.

2. The Council pay the relevant Non-Criminal Magistrates Court Fee for each application for a liability order, as outlined in The Magistrates Court Fees Order 2014

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Hyndburn Borough Council

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Dear foirequests,
Ive spoken with the Magistrates Court and they informed me that they are 'Criminal' courts only.

1. What 'crimes' are being committed by failing to pay council tax on time?
2. The courts informed me they neither produce liability orders or hold details of anyone failing to pay council tax.
Who is it that produces the liability orders?
3. Who sends out the liability orders?
4. When the council makes use of court time for non payers of council tax, what is the councils legal role in the courts.
5. Who is it summonses non payers to the Magistrates 'criminal' court even though they havent commited a 'criminal' offence?
6. Please provide me with a template copy of an actual liability order....not a notification of liability order being issued nor a copy of a list, but an Actual liability order.

Yours sincerely,

David Phillips

foirequests, Hyndburn Borough Council

Dear David Phillips

1. What 'crimes' are being committed by failing to pay council tax on time?
Following a failure to pay Council Tax in accordance with the instalments, the Council will then commence relevant further recovery action in accordance with The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992

2. The courts informed me they neither produce liability orders or hold details of anyone failing to pay council tax.
Who is it that produces the liability orders?
There is no copy of an actual liability order . The liability order is not in itself an actual document. It is a legal decision by the court confirming that the Council Tax is owed and liability for Council Tax has been determined. Details of all relevant Council Tax accounts for which a Liability Order is to be granted against is signed by the Magistrates on the court date is the actual document that gives the Local Authority the proceed with further action to collect the unpaid Council Tax.

3. Who sends out the liability orders?
Please refer to details above in question 2.

4. When the council makes use of court time for non payers of council tax, what is the councils legal role in the courts.
The Councils role is within the provisions of Section 223 of Local Government Finance Act 1972, and
The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992

5. Who is it summonses non payers to the Magistrates 'criminal' court even though they havent commited a 'criminal' offence?
The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations provide that a justices clerk is empowered to consider complaint and issue a summons, in the manner of justice of the peace by the Justices Clerks Rules 1970.

6. Please provide me with a template copy of an actual liability order....not a notification of liability order being issued nor a copy of a list, but an Actual liability order.
Please refer to details above in question 2 and 3.

Kind regards
FOI Coordinator

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Dear foirequests,

You are late responding, therefore we have today reported yourselves to the ICO

Yours sincerely,

David Phillips

foirequests, Hyndburn Borough Council

Dear David Philips

Hyndburn Borough Council responded to your FOI and consequent further questions on the 23.05.23 and 20.06.23.
Please see below:

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From: foirequests
Sent: 20 June 2023 14:56
To: 'David Phillips' <[FOI #980644 email]>; foirequests <[Hyndburn Borough Council request email]>
Subject: RE: Hyndburn Borough Council FOI/7654 response

Dear David Phillips

1. What 'crimes' are being committed by failing to pay council tax on time?
Following a failure to pay Council Tax in accordance with the instalments, the Council will then commence relevant further recovery action in accordance with The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992

2. The courts informed me they neither produce liability orders or hold details of anyone failing to pay council tax.
Who is it that produces the liability orders?
There is no copy of an actual liability order . The liability order is not in itself an actual document. It is a legal decision by the court confirming that the Council Tax is owed and liability for Council Tax has been determined. Details of all relevant Council Tax accounts for which a Liability Order is to be granted against is signed by the Magistrates on the court date is the actual document that gives the Local Authority the proceed with further action to collect the unpaid Council Tax.

3. Who sends out the liability orders?
Please refer to details above in question 2.

4. When the council makes use of court time for non payers of council tax, what is the councils legal role in the courts.
The Councils role is within the provisions of Section 223 of Local Government Finance Act 1972, and The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992

5. Who is it summonses non payers to the Magistrates 'criminal' court even though they havent commited a 'criminal' offence?
The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations provide that a justices clerk is empowered to consider complaint and issue a summons, in the manner of justice of the peace by the Justices Clerks Rules 1970.

6. Please provide me with a template copy of an actual liability order....not a notification of liability order being issued nor a copy of a list, but an Actual liability order.
Please refer to details above in question 2 and 3.

Kind regards
FOI Coordinator

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Sheila Woodland left an annotation ()

Magistrates Court Act 1980 s.58 and the County Court Act 1984 s.16 - Liability Orders cannot be enforced in The County Court because this court does not have the jurisdiction and liability orders can only be recoverable summarily.

Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980
58 Money recoverable summarily as civil debt.
(1)A magistrates’ court shall have power to make an order on complaint for the payment of any money recoverable summarily as a civil debt.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/198...

County Courts Act 1984
16 Money recoverable by statute.
[F1The county court] shall have jurisdiction to hear and determine an action for the recovery of a sum recoverable by virtue of any enactment for the time being in force, if—
(a)it is not provided by that or any other enactment that such sums shall only be recoverable in the High Court or shall only be recoverable summarily; F2 . . .
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/198...

Dear foirequests,

You failed to inform us as to which 'LAWS' we are breaking by not paying Council Tax.
'Regulations aren't Laws.
The reason you didn't inform us as to which Laws we break by not paying council tax simply because no laws exist.

Yours sincerely,

David Phillips