Judge John Rylance

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Dear Ministry of Justice,

How many Public Law cases were handled by Surrey County Council/Guildford County Court under Judge John Rylance between 2010-2012

How many of his Judgements made in a lower court resulted in children being taken from their families? (Parents or extended family)

How many of these families have requested “leave to appeal” in the in the Court of Appeal Judge Rylance's decisions that resulted in the taking of their children?

How many times has "leave to appeal" been granted?

How many times has "leave to appeal" been dismissed?

How many of Judge Rylance's Judgements made in the lower court resulted in the children being returned to their families?

Keen, Michael,

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Dear Keen, Michael,

The MOJ should be able to access this kind of information for the public. I am suprised that this information is not held on a database showing the breakdown of such questions and therefore make it easier and cheaper to ascertain the answers. Maybe the MOJ should consider making access to information easier by changing how they compile information.

Since all of my queries will cost too much to answer perhaps you will answer the first two questions.

How many Public Law cases were handled by Surrey County Council/Guildford County Court under Judge John Rylance between 2010-2012.

How many of his Judgements made in a lower court resulted in children being taken from their families? (Parents or extended family)

Yours sincerely,

Anne Holden

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Dear Ms Holden,

Thank you for your email.

I am afraid that in order to answer your first 2 questions we would again need to retrieve and review physical case files and it is highly likely that this could take a similar amount of time and therefore cost in order to provide you with this information.

The parameters in which you have set would require us to search by Judge by Court and by date, which our current IT database does not allow us to do.

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Dear Keen, Michael,

I am really suprised that you would not know how many public law cases are handled by one judge in the course of a year and how many of those children went into care or went home.

Please answer the two questions but cover the dates from July 2011-June 2012.

Yours sincerely,

Anne Holden

Keen, Michael,

I am out of the office until the 14th Sept. My emails are not being monitored and I will respond to you on my return, however if your query is urgent you can contact the office on 0203 206 0606

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Keen, Michael,

Dear Ms Holden,

My apologies for the delay in responding to your email below.

I will log your request below as an official request under the Freedom of Information Act and my team will provide you with a substantive response in due course.

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donna foot left an annotation ()

My family have suffered injustice under judge rylance i am still fighting to get my 2 children back from foster care.My husband and myself were advised by social services what we had to do to get our children back two and a half years ago we have made the changes yet social services are standing out with the support of judge rylance that we are not allowed our much loved children back.Rylance has made a placement order for adoption he has given them until nov 2012 to find a placement they now say they cant find a placement and have asked the foster carers to take our children on long term care. I want return of my children the social services have refused they haven refused to come out to my home it all appears to be a script to steal my children.I have even taken courses on i have recently passed child psychology level 4 my grade is distinction im taking my finals very soon for Middle years award in positive parentimg level 3 yet social services are taking no notice of me proofing to them that i love and want my children returnrd to my care i even have the support of my GP but they dont want to know.Please can anyone help me get my children back iI will not give up the fight i love and miss them so much my heart will have to stop beating for me to stop fighting for them.

Just a father left an annotation ()

Why won't these judges just do the right thing for all the children caught up in these situations,
Look at real facts. That's facts. Not hear say from social services or Cafcass. children should see both parents.
In relationship breakdowns.
If also children are snatched by this state then it should work to put those children back with parents, and monitor the situation.
It is never any good to keep children away from there parents.
Unless there is proper facts that prove the children or child will be at harm from those parents.
we all make mistakes. But we all can learn from them also. This state keeps children and parents away from each other.
Try keeping them together instead maybe.
The law states in the intreast of the child.
Is it in their intrest to be ripped away from those who in the main live their children with all their hearts.
This system do,s not realy care about children.
It cares about corrupt family courts. It cares about corrupt child's services. work with the parents not against.
I belive the system is very biased against fathers.
And I'm sure some mothers also.
2012 this country needs to bring its self into the future.
I belive the family law machine is very out dated and stuck in another century ie 18th. It's 2012 come on Great Britain wake up before its to late. This state is failing our children not helping them.
And the ones this state should watch some how slip past their tierd eys. and do the worst things any normal person would gringe at.
I too have been in court for nearly two years now to see two little people of mine. I am being treated as a crimmanal instead if a father.
Because of the respondents actions.
Clearly the courts won't carnt or just don't want to Inforce contact orders then why have court.
If courts carnt back these orders up.
The law surrounding children needs a good kick up the back side.
Social services. Cafcass. The police. The judges.
All should be accountable for their mess ups.
And that's me being very polite.
Iv seen children hit in the street by their parents.
but I do not see mine because of a bitter x.
WAKE UP FAMILY LAW.

John Hannigan (Account suspended) left an annotation ()

Hi Donna,

I too have lost my two yr old beautiful daughter
to the courts and is now being adopted.
I know alot about the court procedure as I represented myself at court.
No matter what you say or do, will be listened to by the corrupt officials.
Look on the site forced adoption things are even worst than what they say! I know.

My advice is simple look at the strategy discussions when your child became known to social services.

Was it done right was it within time? were the right people there? The right information presented?

Look at the case conference with all the same criteia.

I have had 11 apologies now of their mistakes by my digging.

My view is simple if your child is good material for adoption your in trouble, age is the key over 5yrs their safe under 5 watch out.
It is all about money, and fostering allowances.

From the age of 1 to 16 years care will cost your authority 1-2 million pounds!!
Adoption cost them NIL!!

Would you believe I was a foster carer for 11 yrs and even adopted a child.
But they still stole my daughter and put her up for adoption even it being with my nephew and his wife, they dont care all of them. I want and need to be with her and bring her up to my high standards to see her from time to time is not enough I want to wake up to her shouting for me everyday but alas that it seems with never happen now.

If you need any help or advice let me know and I will give u my email address.

John Hannigan.

AlienatedFather left an annotation ()

Judge Rylance stopped me from having any contact with my daughter.
Apparently "because I emailed the then Cafcass Guildford regional head of services (Anthony Bird) threatening him with prison if he didn't stop attempting to pervert the course of justice in the favour of my expartner. Mr Anthony Bird is an indoors bowls buddy's daughter's maternal grandmother.
Contact was stopped immediately, I have now made 9 separate requests for the bundle of emails I allegedly sent, but as a litigant in person I was told:
- "the contents were far to legally complicated for my viewing;"
- "the court admin staff was way too busy;"
- "it would cost me too much money;"
- it was a red herring;"
- "they were private communications between 2 individuals;"
- "it may put my child's well being at risk;"
- "they have gone missing from the court bundle;"
- "they have gone missing from the Cafcass bundle;"
- "they have gone missing from the Cafcass offices;"

2 years later I still have no contact with my child.

Mr Michael Gove was included in all emails I sent to Cafcass, his agent Susannah Ashcroft and Mr Gove complemented me on my patience, politeness and positive attitude when corresponding to a body which is as frustrating as Cafcass.

After reading the chain of MoJ excuses above, it is absolutely clear that there is a need to keep the bizarre internal workings of the UK family court secret.
To the MoJ contributors of the above - how you people sleep at nights utterly perplexes me? How many children's lives have been destroyed, while the likes of Mike Cranwell sit in a comfortable tax payer funded office pushing paper around daily.

In response to you pitiful excuses; I'd say Sirs well done! If you worked in the private sector you would be guaranteed to starve.

AlienatedFather left an annotation ()

Judge Rylance stopped me from having any contact with my daughter.
Apparently "because I emailed the then Cafcass Guildford regional head of services (Anthony Bird) threatening him with prison if he didn't stop attempting to pervert the course of justice in the favour of my expartner. Mr Anthony Bird is an indoors bowls buddy's daughter's maternal grandmother.
Contact was stopped immediately, I have now made 9 separate requests for the bundle of emails I allegedly sent, but as a litigant in person I was told:
- "the contents were far to legally complicated for my viewing;"
- "the court admin staff was way too busy;"
- "it would cost me too much money;"
- "it was a red herring;"
- "they were private communications between 2 individuals;"
- "it may put my child's well being at risk;"
- "they have gone missing from the court bundle;"
- "they have gone missing from the Cafcass bundle;"
- "they have gone missing from the Cafcass offices;"

2 years later I still have no contact with my child.

Mr Michael Gove was included in all emails I sent to Cafcass, his agent Susannah Ashcroft and Mr Gove complemented me on my patience, politeness and positive attitude when corresponding to a body which is as frustrating as Cafcass.

After reading the chain of MoJ excuses above, it is absolutely clear that there is a need to keep the bizarre internal workings of the UK family court secret.
To the MoJ contributors of the above - how you people sleep at nights utterly perplexes me? How many children's lives have been destroyed, while the likes of Mike Cranwell sit in a comfortable tax payer funded office pushing paper around daily.

In response to you pitiful excuses; I'd say Sirs well done! If you worked in the private sector you would be guaranteed to starve.

Paul Randle-Jolliffe left an annotation ()

that looks like a clear case of conspiracy to and perverting the course of justice Anonymous Father, I would like to help you deal with this, I am Director of the private prosecution service

AlienatedFather left an annotation ()

Paul,

If this happened in a developing country, most would be absolutely appalled, but seemingly in Guildford county court it is a normal.

Because of the stress this has caused me, I am no longer able to function at work and consequently have lost the well paid job that I have maintained for almost 11 years.

Any assistance you can offer would be greatly appreciated. At this stage I am still mainly concerned about my child not having any contact with me or her paternal family. But you are right, criminal proceedings against said professionals is compulsorily because all I have stated is in writing.

Guildford county court also ordered that any paternal family member wishing to have contact must also be screened and contact must be approved by the mother and in a supervised contact center at the mother's request.

Previously in Guildford county court, the mother requested a private hearing between her and the judge only. This was after Surrey Police & the Met police stopped acknowledging her never ending false allegations. Both constabularies also wrote to the mother warning that they would pursue harassment charges if she continued making false complaints. Primarily, 3 years after the relationship ended her allegations progressively became more and more elaborate.

Yet, even after the police have warned my ex to stop harassing me. Guildford County court still viewed all her allegations as absolute truth! The judge flatly refused to acknowledge the importance of the warnings from Surrey police and or the Met...

In Guildford county Court on 07/01/2013 the suitability of the people the mother allowed contact with the child was raised, primarily because of the mothers new partner, who was dressed in a pair of dirty jeans, steel toe capped timberland style boots, black hooded top a baseball cap and smelling of marijuana.

The judge very abruptly dismissed these facts as domestic abuse. Stating that my ex is a good mother and then proceeded to refer to my apparent narcissism as "mental issues" which will always pose a threat to the child.

Is this not also further harassment of the father?

I will email you privately.

Just a father left an annotation ()

Hi every one just a father here I'm still in the same situation as yourself fighting an unjust family system and Cafcass who are now gone waiting for nyas to come into play since end of aug 2012 I'm in front of a j nathen he's no better let me tell you two yrs in court now Cafcass just a complete bunch of liers along with the x partner.
What a state we live in that thinks its ok to not treat us loving dads as equals.
This current law needs to change very very soon.
There are lots of us dads who will fight to see the ones we made and still love.
Iv complained to the ojc the ombudsman ect ect
Cafcass also said they wanted my med records
And want me todo mental tests.
Not mental yet
But who knows with all that I have to put up with I just might get there one day.
In the intrests of the child not ever has it been in my children's intrest to be used by a mum useing parental Alination !!!!!!
This system is not intrests in us dads that is very clear n

Paul Randle-Jolliffe left an annotation ()

NYAS are still subject to Judicial Review as they provide the same public function as CAFCASS, the eyes and ears of the court

Advocacy-Fund (PS1 FOI) left an annotation ()

I too have suffered at the hands of Judge Rylance, in fact I got to the third adoption hearing which is generally unheard of and he went with the adoption from what he stated in the hearing it was clear he had already made the decision before entering the court, he stated that I had not done the therapy that was stated by the expert who had said 2 years.

I did the therapy it just did not take that long, he also said there was no time to be wasted to have me reassessed and yet I had asked for this in both the previous adoption hearings and at the final hearing. In the final hearing he stated it would be a waste of public money, he gave them 6 months to find adopters, in the end they got the foster carers to adopt them over 18months later.

The point is that we waited for 4 months between the 2nd and 3rd adoption hearing and as such had plenty of time to be reassessed they also stated I was emeshed with my ex a person I had barely spoken to in 18 months in fact only on 2 occasions when I had bumped into him by accident.

I searched to see what I could find out about this Judge before going back to court but there was nothing, he does not even put his cases online like most do, in fact nothing was able to be found about him.

I would so love to hear more please do keep me updated

Jill Holms left an annotation ()

Today we have lost 3 children judge rylance had made up his mind long ago and would give no credit to my daughter for anything he even dismissed a letter from the police crediting my daughter , instead he chose to base his decision on evidence from a social worker who under cross examination was a proven liar. And a one of meeting with a psychologist who is carefully selected by social services who twists everything that's said just like they do !!! For the first 2 days of this last hearing rylance was falling asleep because he'd had a delayed flight back from his holiday , our family had been torn apart by this when in fact social services should have been the ones on trial as myself and my daughter have been asking them for help since 2006 but they declined to help , how can we do something about this very corrupt system especially in Surrey ??