Is Shetland part of Scotland?
Dear Scottish Government,
We are having difficulty finding proof that Shetland is part of Scotland.
According to The Laws of Scotland, Stair Memorial Encyclopaedia, Vol.18(42), "The Crown's sovereignty over Scotland and its dominium eminens, its ultimate tenurial superiority, are the same thing, are identical concepts”.
At Volume 18(47) it states that "The dominium eminens or ultimate superiority of the Crown is allodial, because not held of a higher lord, except of God".
We want to know:
1) Do you accept The Laws of Scotland, Stair Memorial Encyclopaedia as a binding authority? and
2) Are we correct in thinking that the Crown's sovereignty is the same as its allodial ownership?
3) Are we correct in thinking that, for the Crown to have sovereignty in Shetland, it must have allodial ownership of Shetland?
4) If we are correct at 2) and 3) above, do you have proof that the Crown holds the allodial title of Shetland?
Yours faithfully,
The Sovereign Nation of Shetland
Our Reference: 202500447292
Dear No name,
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Dear Scottish Government,
From the ICO website:
"To be valid under the Act, the request must:
be in writing. This could be a letter or email. Requests can also be made via the web, or even on social networking sites such as Facebook or Twitter if your public authority uses these;
include the requester’s real name. The Act treats all requesters alike, so you should not normally seek to verify the requester’s identity. However, you may decide to check their identity if it is clear they are using a pseudonym or if there are legitimate grounds for refusing their request and you suspect they are trying to avoid this happening, for example because their request is vexatious or repeated. Remember that a request can be made in the name of an organisation, or by one person on behalf of another, such as a solicitor on behalf of a client."
"The requester's real name is The Sovereign Nation of Shetland, and
We note that, contrary to what you say "you should not normally seek to verify the requester’s identity" and
"Remember that a request can be made in the name of an organisation"
From the link you give:
"9. All requests must name the person making the request. (Again, remember that a “person”
may be a company or organisation.)" and
"14. The Commissioner expects public authorities to check the validity of a request only
where there are reasonable grounds for believing that the request might not be valid.
Otherwise, the Commissioner expects the authority to simply deal with the request"" and
"19. If the request has been made by a company or organisation, then a request made in the
name of the company or organisation will be valid." and
22. While it may be helpful to have a named contact for corresponding with a company or
organisation in response to a request, this is not essential as the company/organisation
name is sufficient for the request to be valid"
Kindly provide the information as requested.
Yours faithfully,
The Sovereign Nation of Shetland
Our Reference: 202500448672
Dear The Sovereign Nation of Shetland,
Thank you for your correspondence sent on 18/01/2025. Your query will be
passed to the relevant area for consideration and has been given a
reference number of 202500448672. Please quote this number in all
correspondence. The Scottish Government aim to respond, where necessary,
as quickly as possible and within the stated timescale as indicated on our
website
(http://www.gov.scot/about/contact-inform...).
Yours sincerely
MiCase
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Dear Scottish Government,
We do not wish to be difficult, but the link you give is not the legislation. The legislation states:
8 Requesting information
(1)Any reference in this Act to “requesting” information is a reference to making a request which—
(a)is in writing or in another form which, by reason of its having some permanency, is capable of being used for subsequent reference (as, for example, a recording made on audio or video tape);
(b)states the name of the applicant and an address for correspondence
There is no requirement under the legislation for the requester to be a specific man or woman. According to Schedule 1 of the Interpretation Act 1978, we are a person. As that person, we make our request.
The English version of the Act is specific that a request may be made in the name of a company or organisation. We believe we would be discriminated against if the same rights were not applied throughout the UK.
We are an unincorporated association, a person capable of suing and being sued. Our full name is The Sovereign Nation of Shetland. Kindly deal with our request in that name.
Yours faithfully,
The Sovereign Nation of Shetland
Dear Scottish Government,
To amplify our previous communication:
Section 1(1) of Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 states:
1 General entitlement
(1)A person who requests information from a Scottish public authority which holds it is entitled to be given it by the authority.
We are a person for the purposes of this Act
The FOISA/EIRs Guidance to which you refer states:
Requests from companies or organisations
19. If the request has been made by a company or organisation, then a request made in the name of the company or organisation will be valid.
You have the full name of our organisation.
Yours faithfully,
The Sovereign Nation of Shetland
Our Reference: 202500449020
Dear The Sovereign Nation of Shetland,
Thank you for your correspondence received on 20/01/2025. Your query will
be passed to the relevant area for consideration and has been given a
reference number of 202500449020. Please quote this number in all
correspondence. The Scottish Government aim to respond, where necessary,
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Yours sincerely
MiCase
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The Scottish Government takes your privacy seriously. You may have written
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Dear Scottish Government,
Thank you for your reply. I shall expect your response by 6 February as per the original request..
Yours faithfully,
The Sovereign Nation of Shetland
Our Reference: 202500449544
Dear The Sovereign Nation of Shetland,
Thank you for your correspondence received on 09/01/2025. Your query will
be passed to the relevant area for consideration and has been given a
reference number of 202500449544. Please quote this number in all
correspondence. The Scottish Government aim to respond, where necessary,
as quickly as possible and within the stated timescale as indicated on our
website
(http://www.gov.scot/about/contact-inform...).
Yours sincerely
MiCase
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The Scottish Government takes your privacy seriously. You may have written
to us because you have a question or want to make a complaint. Our privacy
notice
(https://beta.gov.scot/publications/conta...),
available on our website, sets out how we use your personal data, and your
rights when communicating with us. It is made under Article 13 of the
General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).
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