Intimidation and punishment by councils or social workers to parents or grandparents that report child abuse to police

Calder Liah made this Freedom of Information request to Essex Police

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The request was refused by Essex Police.

Dear Essex Police,

I have just seen your link entitled “I didn’t know” I have changed my name for this request to protect my grandchild.

http://www.essex.police.uk/news_features...

I am a grandmother who reported my grandchild say, at a young age, inappropriate things to not only myself, but professionals. For example

1. Her grandfather lets her touch his penis
2. The monster puts things up her front bum
3. Her grandfather rubs her front bum.

I noticed within your website to “know the signs” and your site quoted

“Nick Alston, Police and Crime Commissioner for Essex, said: “Protecting our young people from harm and sexual exploitation must be an absolute priority. I really respect the courage of the young people who’ve contributed to this project: their voices are captured powerfully in the films. I’m also pleased that all the agencies are working together to help raise awareness of the signs of CSE. Partnership work is crucial, and that must include all of us - whether we’re parents, teachers or taxi drivers – looking out for signs of CSE. If you see something that raises your concerns, please report it.”

I reported to my local council what I heard only to be called a liar. I also reported the matter to Essex Police only to be told by social services that I was a risk to my grandchild for reporting what my granddaughter had told me to the police, and my husband a risk for not stopping me phoning the police. Due to reporting child sexual abuse I and the entire paternal family have been stopped contact.

I also reported medical problems that my granddaughter had, which my son researched that a social worker “SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THE SIGNS” which are linked to sexual abuse. My son (the father) has also been punished for reporting concerns.

The purpose of this request is NOT about parents or grandparents reporting child abuse to the police, but statistics of parents or grandparents reporting to the police that they have been intimidated by councils and / or social workers not to report child abuse

I also would like statistics of parents or grandparents that have reported to the police that they have been punished (i.e. been labelled a risk to a child and / or stopped contact with that child) for reporting child abuse to the police

1. I would like to know how many parents / grandparents have reported to police that they have been told by councils and / or social workers that they are not allowed to report child sexual abuse to the police.
a) Please provide statistics and name the council(s) that have intimidated parents / grandparents.

2. I would like to know how many parents / grandparents have reported to police that they have been punished (i.e. being labelled a risk to the child or stopped contact) by councils and / or social workers for reporting child sexual abuse to the police.
a) Please provide statistics and name the council(s) that have punished parents / grandparents.

3. I would like to know how many parents / grandparents have reported to police that they have been told by councils and / or social workers that they are not allowed to seek medical attention for their child to the police when sexual abuse is suspected.
a) Please provide statistics and name the council(s) that have intimidated parents / grandparents.

4. What action has the police taken against councils / social workers for:-
a) As per Q1 intimidating parents not to report concerns.
b) As per Q2 punishing parents for reporting concerns to police
c) As per Q3 intimidating parents not to seek medical attention.

I can confirm that I, a retired solicitors secretary and former adult social worker, my husband, and my son, a former professional, can meet the statistics of Q1-3 of being intimidated and punished. To the best of my knowledge have taken no action.

I would like statistics to go back 2 years.

Yours faithfully,

Calder Liah

Data FOI Essex,

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Thank you for your enquiry which has been logged under the above
reference.

 

I have just seen your link entitled “I didn’t know” I have changed my name
for this request to protect my grandchild.

 

http://www.essex.police.uk/news_features...

 

I am a grandmother who reported my grandchild say, at a young age,
inappropriate things to not only myself, but professionals. For example

 

1.         Her grandfather lets her touch his penis

2.         The monster puts things up her front bum

3.         Her grandfather rubs her front bum.

 

I noticed within your website to “know the signs” and your site quoted

 

“Nick Alston, Police and Crime Commissioner for Essex, said: “Protecting
our young people from harm and sexual exploitation must be an absolute
priority. I really respect the courage of the young people who’ve
contributed to this project: their voices are captured powerfully in the
films. I’m also pleased that all the agencies are working together to help
raise awareness of the signs of CSE. Partnership work is crucial, and that
must include all of us - whether we’re parents, teachers or taxi drivers –
looking out for signs of CSE. If you see something that raises your
concerns, please report it.”

 

I reported to my local council what I heard only to be called a liar. I
also reported the matter to Essex Police only to be told by social
services that I was a risk to my grandchild for reporting what my
granddaughter had told me to the police, and my husband a risk for not
stopping me phoning the police. Due to reporting child sexual abuse I and
the entire paternal family have been stopped contact.

 

I also reported medical problems that my granddaughter had, which my son
researched that a social worker “SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THE SIGNS” which are
linked to sexual abuse. My son (the father) has also been punished for
reporting concerns.

 

The purpose of this request is NOT about parents or grandparents reporting
child abuse to the police, but statistics of parents or grandparents
reporting to the police that they have been intimidated by councils and /
or social workers not to report child abuse

 

I also would like statistics of parents or grandparents that have reported
to the police that they have been punished (i.e. been labelled a risk to a
child and / or stopped contact with that child) for reporting child abuse
to the police

 

1.         I would like to know how many parents / grandparents have
reported to police that they have been told by councils and / or social
workers that they are not allowed to report child sexual abuse to the
police.

a)         Please provide statistics and name the council(s) that have
intimidated parents / grandparents.

 

2.         I would like to know how many parents / grandparents have
reported to police that they have been punished (i.e. being labelled a
risk to the child or stopped contact) by councils and / or social workers
for reporting child sexual abuse to the police.

a)         Please provide statistics and name the council(s) that have
punished parents / grandparents.

 

3.         I would like to know how many parents / grandparents have
reported to police that they have been told by councils and / or social
workers that they are not allowed to seek medical attention for their
child to the police when sexual abuse is suspected.

a)         Please provide statistics and name the council(s) that have
intimidated parents / grandparents.

 

4.         What action has the police taken against councils / social
workers for:-

a)         As per Q1 intimidating parents not to report concerns.

b)         As per Q2 punishing parents for reporting concerns to police

c)         As per Q3 intimidating parents not to seek medical attention.

 

I can confirm that I, a retired solicitors secretary and former adult
social worker, my husband, and my son, a former professional, can meet the
statistics of Q1-3 of being intimidated and punished. To the best of my
knowledge have taken no action.

 

I would like statistics to go back 2 years.

Before we can start work on your request I would ask that you provide your
real name as without that your request is not a valid FOI request. Please
see the Information Commissioner's website at:
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Where it says:

Section 8 stipulates that a request for information must:

·         be in writing;

·         state the name of the requester and provide an address for
correspondence; and,

·         describe the information being requested.

 

 

Having said that the information requested is not held in a format that
allows it to be retrieved within the scope of FOI as it would mean
reviewing perhaps hundreds / thousands of individual case files simply in
order to ascertain whether the information as held.  Such an exercise
would extend beyond the reasonable amount that a public authority is
required to expend in responding to a request under the Freedom of
Information Act, as set out in the Data Protection and Freedom of
Information (Fees and appropriate Limit) Regulations 2004, which currently
stands at £450 or eighteen hours. 

Consequently, and by virtue of the exception at section 12(2) of the FOI
Act 2000, Essex Police are exempt from the duty to comply with section
1(1)(a) of the FOI Act  as follows-

12 - Exemption where cost of compliance exceeds appropriate limit.

(1) Section 1(1) does not oblige a public authority to comply with a
request for information if the authority estimates that the cost of
complying with the request would exceed the appropriate limit.

(2) Subsection (1) does not exempt the public authority from its
obligation to comply with paragraph (a) of section 1(1) unless the
estimated cost of complying with that paragraph alone would exceed the
appropriate limit.

Therefore, even if this was a valid request, in accordance with section 17
of the Act, this communication must act as a refusal notice to comply with
section 1(1)(a) of the FOI Act by confirming whether information is held
or not.

Having said all of that I am concerned at the issues raised and would
suggest you email the Force outside of FOI, and certainly not by using the
public forum of Whatdothekknow.com so that your concerns can be
investigated. I am concerned that such a public forum is not the best way
to resolve your concerns, we would be better placed if we could look at
the individual circumstances relating to you grandchild rather than an FOI
request.

 

Can I ask that you provide details to me via this email address
[2]data[Essex Police request email]  and I will pass on your comments to the
Detective Chief Superintendent with responsibility for Public Protection
in the Force for her undertake a review of the circumstances described
outside of the scope of FOI.

 

I hope this is of use and I look forward to hearing from you. Please do
give us the opportunity to investigate this further.

 

 

Steve Grayton

Information Officer (Mon – Tues)

Senior Information Officer (Wed – Fri)
Data Protection & Freedom of Information
Information Management
Corporate Services
Essex Police Headquarters
PO Box 2, Springfield, Chelmsford, CM2 6DA

 

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