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Dear Hertfordshire County Council,

I write, under the Environmental Information Regulations, to request information held by the Council in relation to the planning application made by Veolia for 2 Rattys Lane, Hoddesdon, EN11 0RF Application 7/0067-17 - (ERF)

The Memorandum from Herts Highways in response to this application contained various claims and we are requesting information relevant to these together with information on past planning applications in 2010 & 2012 in which permitted vehicle movements were considerably less.

Details of Memorandum in question:
MEMORANDUM 21/9/2017
To: Spatial & Land Use Planning Unit From: : Development Management (Highways Operations & Strategy)
FAO: Development Management Team Your ref: PL\0824\16
Our ref: BR/10/2017
HCC received: 19/01/2017 Area manager: Mark Youngman. Case officer: Mark Youngman

1. (para 8) - "It should be noted that the new facility will process all of Hertfordshire's waste meaning there will be less total vehicle kilometres travelled (much of it is currently transported out of the county). Therefore the development will help sustainability in a wider highways context." [Herts Highways Memorandum 21/9/17]
I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that was used to inform and support this claim.
This would include full details of total current milages incurred in current waste disposal and full details of total milages incurred with regard to the operation of the proposed 350,000tonnes pa incinerator.

2 "6.3 The modelling files have been requested by the Highway Authority, and these have been sent by the applicant. Our Traffic Data and Modelling team have checked these and found that they are robust." [Herts Highways Memorandum21/9/17]
Please send us electronic copies of all relevant information that was used to inform the decision that the monitoring was robust with respect to Veolia's planning application for 2 Rattys Lane, Hoddesdon, EN11 0RF
What related documents do you know to be held by other parties?

3. Signalisation of Ratty’s Lane - 9.1.iii "A revised Linsig model has been submitted which demonstrates this works, with minimal queueing on all approaches." [Herts Highways Memorandum 21/9/17]
I request electronic copies of the revised Linsig model.
What related documents do you know to be held by other parties?

4 HGV movements
"7.2 It has since been confirmed that the maximum time any HGV will spend at the site is 20 minutes, and therefore the Busiest Operational Hour (which experiences 18 HGV arrivals) can be accommodated by the HGV spaces provided on the site". [Herts Highways Memorandum]
What information to you hold concerning how this was confirmed by Hertfordshire Highways?
Please send us electronic copies of this information.
What related documents do you know to held by third parties?

5. Additional information on accommodation of HGVs
How many HGV spaces are provided on site?
What is the gradient of the ramp?
If all tipping bays are occupied where will lorries wait?
How many lorries can queue and what is the length of the space available?
How many lorries can be accommodated at the out going traffic light? What is the length of the queueing space?
Please send us electonic copies of all this information.

6. Herts Highways objected to 46 lorry movements requested by Veolia at the at the time of their Feilde’s Lock Power Station Planning Application in 2012
I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that was used to inform this objection
What information do you hold concerning this 2012 application with regard to transport? Please send us electronic copies of this information.

7. With regard to the appication for a sustainable energy facility in Rattys Lane Hoddesdon in 2010
"There shall be no more than 76 HGV Lorry movements (38 in/38 out) at the site on any one working day.
Reason: In the interests of highway safety and so that there shall be no adverse effect upon the free and safe flow of traffic along the highway in the vicinity of the site."
{Herts CC Report on 7/12/2010 to DCC re proposed Sustainable Energy Facility, Rattys Lane Hoddesdon [ATT and AD facilities]
5 Consultations p.7]

I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that was used to inform this decision.
What information do you hold concerning this 2010 application with regard to transport?
Please send electronic copies of this information.

In consideration of the late response from Herts Highways and the intention of Herts CC to consider this application on 23rd November, we would appreciate this information being sent within fourteen working days if possible please. I am requesting this information as it is in the public interest of the residents of SE Herts to ensure that this proposal will not impair air quality, amenity or the economic viability of the area.

With thanks,
Jan Metcalf
Secretary of The Hoddesdon Society

Information Governance, Hertfordshire County Council

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Dear Jan Metcalf,

 

Reference number: EIR/ENV/11/17/14441

 

Thank you for your correspondence of the 1^st November 2017 requesting the
following information:

 

I write, under the Environmental Information Regulations, to request
information held by the Council in relation to the planning application
made by Veolia for 2 Rattys Lane, Hoddesdon, EN11 0RF  Application
7/0067-17 - (ERF)

 

The Memorandum from Herts Highways in response to this application
contained various claims and we are requesting information relevant to
these together with information on past planning applications in 2010 &
2012 in which permitted vehicle movements were considerably less.

 

Details of Memorandum in question:

MEMORANDUM         21/9/2017

To: Spatial & Land Use Planning Unit From: : Development Management
(Highways Operations & Strategy)

FAO: Development Management Team        Your ref: PL\0824\16

Our ref: BR/10/2017

HCC received: 19/01/2017 Area manager: Mark Youngman.  Case officer: Mark
Youngman

 

1. (para 8) - "It should be noted that the new facility will process all
of Hertfordshire's waste meaning there will be less total vehicle
kilometres travelled (much of it is currently transported out of the
county).  Therefore the development will help sustainability in a wider
highways context."   [Herts Highways Memorandum 21/9/17]

I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that was used
to inform and support this claim.

This would include full details of total current milages incurred in
current waste disposal and full details of total milages incurred with
regard to the operation of the proposed 350,000tonnes pa incinerator.

 

2  "6.3 The modelling files have been requested by the Highway Authority,
and these have been sent by the applicant. Our Traffic Data and Modelling
team have checked these and found that they are robust." [Herts Highways
Memorandum21/9/17] Please send us electronic copies of all relevant
information that was used to inform the decision that the monitoring was
robust with respect to Veolia's planning application for 2 Rattys Lane,
Hoddesdon, EN11 0RF What related documents do you know to be held by other
parties?

 

3. Signalisation of Ratty’s Lane -  9.1.iii  "A revised Linsig model has
been submitted which demonstrates this works, with minimal queueing on all
approaches." [Herts Highways Memorandum  21/9/17] I request electronic
copies of the revised Linsig model.

What related documents do you know to be held by other parties?

 

4  HGV movements

"7.2 It has since been confirmed that the maximum time any HGV will spend
at the site is 20 minutes, and therefore the Busiest Operational Hour
(which experiences 18 HGV arrivals) can be accommodated by the HGV spaces
provided on the site". [Herts Highways Memorandum] What information to you
hold concerning how this was confirmed by Hertfordshire Highways?

Please send us electronic copies of this information.

What related documents do you know to held by third parties?

 

5. Additional information on accommodation of HGVs How many HGV spaces are
provided on site?

What is the gradient of the ramp?

If all tipping bays are occupied where will lorries wait?

How many lorries can queue and what is the length of the space available?

How many lorries can be accommodated at the out going traffic light? What
is the length of the queueing space?

Please send us electonic copies of all this information.

 

6. Herts Highways objected to 46 lorry movements requested by Veolia at
the at the time of their Feilde’s Lock Power Station Planning Application
in 2012 I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that
was used to inform this objection  What information do you hold concerning
this 2012 application with regard to transport?  Please send us electronic
copies of this information.

 

7. With regard to the appication for a sustainable energy facility in
Rattys Lane Hoddesdon in 2010  "There shall be no more than 76 HGV Lorry
movements (38 in/38 out) at the site on any one working day.

Reason:  In the interests of highway safety and so that there shall be no
adverse effect upon the free and safe flow of traffic along the highway in
the vicinity of the site." 

{Herts CC Report on 7/12/2010 to DCC re proposed Sustainable Energy
Facility, Rattys Lane  Hoddesdon [ATT and AD facilities]

5 Consultations p.7]

 

I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that was used
to inform this decision.

What information do you hold concerning this 2010 application with regard
to transport? 

Please send electronic  copies of this information.

 

In consideration of the late response from Herts Highways and the
intention of Herts CC to consider this application on 23rd November, we
would appreciate this information being sent within fourteen working days
if possible please.   I am requesting this information as it is in the
public interest of the residents of SE Herts to ensure that this proposal 
will not impair air quality, amenity or the economic viability  of the
area.

 

 

Your request for information is being considered under the Environmental
Information Regulation 2004.  We will respond to your request as quickly
as possible, however, we will not be in a position to provide a response
within 14 days as you have requested as there are many other requests
ahead of yours and we are unable to prioritise any requests over others
received before them.

 

The regulations allow 20 - 40 working days to respond to requests made
under the Environment Information Regulations. Therefore we will respond
as soon as possible and by close of play on 28^th November 2017.

 

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me, quoting
the reference number above.

 

 

Information Governance, Hertfordshire County Council

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Dear Jan Metcalf,

 

Reference number: EIR/ENV/11/17/14441

 

Further to the below, your request for information is still being
considered under the Environmental Information Regulations 2004.  Owing to
the quantity and complexity of the information you have requested we will
not be able to provide the information to you by 28^th November 2017,
which would be within twenty working days and therefore need to extend
the deadline as indicated below. The regulations allow for an extension
under these circumstances.

 

The information you have requested is complex in nature and requires
consultation with third parties and needs to be considered against the
exceptions contained within the Environmental Information Regulations
2004.

 

We will respond to your request as quickly as possible, and by 4^th
January 2018 at the latest. This replaces any deadline previously given.

 

 

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From: Information Governance
Sent: 01 November 2017 13:27
To: [FOI #442163 email]
Subject: Request for Information: EIR/ENV/11/17/14441

 

Dear Jan Metcalf,

 

Reference number: EIR/ENV/11/17/14441

 

Thank you for your correspondence of the 1^st November 2017 requesting the
following information:

 

I write, under the Environmental Information Regulations, to request
information held by the Council in relation to the planning application
made by Veolia for 2 Rattys Lane, Hoddesdon, EN11 0RF  Application
7/0067-17 - (ERF)

 

The Memorandum from Herts Highways in response to this application
contained various claims and we are requesting information relevant to
these together with information on past planning applications in 2010 &
2012 in which permitted vehicle movements were considerably less.

 

Details of Memorandum in question:

MEMORANDUM         21/9/2017

To: Spatial & Land Use Planning Unit From: : Development Management
(Highways Operations & Strategy)

FAO: Development Management Team        Your ref: PL\0824\16

Our ref: BR/10/2017

HCC received: 19/01/2017 Area manager: Mark Youngman.  Case officer: Mark
Youngman

 

1. (para 8) - "It should be noted that the new facility will process all
of Hertfordshire's waste meaning there will be less total vehicle
kilometres travelled (much of it is currently transported out of the
county).  Therefore the development will help sustainability in a wider
highways context."   [Herts Highways Memorandum 21/9/17]

I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that was used
to inform and support this claim.

This would include full details of total current milages incurred in
current waste disposal and full details of total milages incurred with
regard to the operation of the proposed 350,000tonnes pa incinerator.

 

2  "6.3 The modelling files have been requested by the Highway Authority,
and these have been sent by the applicant. Our Traffic Data and Modelling
team have checked these and found that they are robust." [Herts Highways
Memorandum21/9/17] Please send us electronic copies of all relevant
information that was used to inform the decision that the monitoring was
robust with respect to Veolia's planning application for 2 Rattys Lane,
Hoddesdon, EN11 0RF What related documents do you know to be held by other
parties?

 

3. Signalisation of Ratty’s Lane -  9.1.iii  "A revised Linsig model has
been submitted which demonstrates this works, with minimal queueing on all
approaches." [Herts Highways Memorandum  21/9/17] I request electronic
copies of the revised Linsig model.

What related documents do you know to be held by other parties?

 

4  HGV movements

"7.2 It has since been confirmed that the maximum time any HGV will spend
at the site is 20 minutes, and therefore the Busiest Operational Hour
(which experiences 18 HGV arrivals) can be accommodated by the HGV spaces
provided on the site". [Herts Highways Memorandum] What information to you
hold concerning how this was confirmed by Hertfordshire Highways?

Please send us electronic copies of this information.

What related documents do you know to held by third parties?

 

5. Additional information on accommodation of HGVs How many HGV spaces are
provided on site?

What is the gradient of the ramp?

If all tipping bays are occupied where will lorries wait?

How many lorries can queue and what is the length of the space available?

How many lorries can be accommodated at the out going traffic light? What
is the length of the queueing space?

Please send us electonic copies of all this information.

 

6. Herts Highways objected to 46 lorry movements requested by Veolia at
the at the time of their Feilde’s Lock Power Station Planning Application
in 2012 I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that
was used to inform this objection  What information do you hold concerning
this 2012 application with regard to transport?  Please send us electronic
copies of this information.

 

7. With regard to the appication for a sustainable energy facility in
Rattys Lane Hoddesdon in 2010  "There shall be no more than 76 HGV Lorry
movements (38 in/38 out) at the site on any one working day.

Reason:  In the interests of highway safety and so that there shall be no
adverse effect upon the free and safe flow of traffic along the highway in
the vicinity of the site." 

{Herts CC Report on 7/12/2010 to DCC re proposed Sustainable Energy
Facility, Rattys Lane  Hoddesdon [ATT and AD facilities]

5 Consultations p.7]

 

I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that was used
to inform this decision.

What information do you hold concerning this 2010 application with regard
to transport? 

Please send electronic  copies of this information.

 

In consideration of the late response from Herts Highways and the
intention of Herts CC to consider this application on 23rd November, we
would appreciate this information being sent within fourteen working days
if possible please.   I am requesting this information as it is in the
public interest of the residents of SE Herts to ensure that this proposal 
will not impair air quality, amenity or the economic viability  of the
area.

 

 

Your request for information is being considered under the Environmental
Information Regulation 2004.  We will respond to your request as quickly
as possible, however, we will not be in a position to provide a response
within 14 days as you have requested as there are many other requests
ahead of yours and we are unable to prioritise any requests over others
received before them.

 

The regulations allow 20 - 40 working days to respond to requests made
under the Environment Information Regulations. Therefore we will respond
as soon as possible and by close of play on 28^th November 2017.

 

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me, quoting
the reference number above.

 

 

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Dear Information Governance,
We appreciate that some of the information requested may take a little longer but we are surprised that you are not able to provide information concerning Veolia's planning application submitted to you about 11 months ago. Herts Highways made the following claims [see below] in Sept 2017 and so must have used the requested information recently. We are puzzled as to the difficulty in meeting the 28th Nov initial deadline.
1. Claim about sustainability in the wider highways context
(para 8) - "It should be noted that the new facility will process all of Hertfordshire's waste meaning there will be less total vehicle kilometres travelled (much of it is currently transported out of the county). Therefore the development will help sustainability in a wider highways context." [Herts Highways Memorandum 21/9/17]

2 "6.3 The modelling files have been requested by the Highway Authority, and these have been sent by the applicant. Our Traffic Data and Modelling team have checked these and found that they are robust." [Herts Highways Memorandum21/9/17]

3. Signalisation of Ratty’s Lane - 9.1.iii "A revised Linsig model has been submitted which demonstrates this works, with minimal queueing on all approaches." [Herts Highways Memorandum 21/9/17]

We are asking that this information be made available to the public at least a week before the intended planning hearing on Dec. 20th '17 when these claims will be put before the Development Control Committee and we are not being given a legimate opportunity to challenge them. Failing that, we suggest that, in the public interest, the planning hearing should be delayed until such time as you are able to make this evidence available to us.

Yours sincerely,

Jan Metcalf, Secretary of The Hoddesdon Society

Information Governance, Hertfordshire County Council

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Dear Jan Metcalf,

 

Reference number: EIR/ENV/11/17/14441

 

On 1^st November 2017 we received the following request for information
from you:

 

I write, under the Environmental Information Regulations, to request
information held by the Council in relation to the planning application
made by Veolia for 2 Rattys Lane, Hoddesdon, EN11 0RF  Application
7/0067-17 - (ERF)

 

The Memorandum from Herts Highways in response to this application
contained various claims and we are requesting information relevant to
these together with information on past planning applications in 2010 &
2012 in which permitted vehicle movements were considerably less.

 

Details of Memorandum in question:

MEMORANDUM         21/9/2017

To: Spatial & Land Use Planning Unit From: : Development Management
(Highways Operations & Strategy)

FAO: Development Management Team        Your ref: PL\0824\16

Our ref: BR/10/2017

HCC received: 19/01/2017 Area manager: Mark Youngman.  Case officer: Mark
Youngman

 

1. (para 8) - "It should be noted that the new facility will process all
of Hertfordshire's waste meaning there will be less total vehicle
kilometres travelled (much of it is currently transported out of the
county).  Therefore the development will help sustainability in a wider
highways context."   [Herts Highways Memorandum 21/9/17]

I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that was used
to inform and support this claim.

This would include full details of total current milages incurred in
current waste disposal and full details of total milages incurred with
regard to the operation of the proposed 350,000tonnes pa incinerator.

 

2  "6.3 The modelling files have been requested by the Highway Authority,
and these have been sent by the applicant. Our Traffic Data and Modelling
team have checked these and found that they are robust." [Herts Highways
Memorandum21/9/17] Please send us electronic copies of all relevant
information that was used to inform the decision that the monitoring was
robust with respect to Veolia's planning application for 2 Rattys Lane,
Hoddesdon, EN11 0RF What related documents do you know to be held by other
parties?

 

3. Signalisation of Ratty’s Lane -  9.1.iii  "A revised Linsig model has
been submitted which demonstrates this works, with minimal queueing on all
approaches." [Herts Highways Memorandum  21/9/17] I request electronic
copies of the revised Linsig model.

What related documents do you know to be held by other parties?

 

4  HGV movements

"7.2 It has since been confirmed that the maximum time any HGV will spend
at the site is 20 minutes, and therefore the Busiest Operational Hour
(which experiences 18 HGV arrivals) can be accommodated by the HGV spaces
provided on the site". [Herts Highways Memorandum] What information to you
hold concerning how this was confirmed by Hertfordshire Highways?

Please send us electronic copies of this information.

What related documents do you know to held by third parties?

 

5. Additional information on accommodation of HGVs How many HGV spaces are
provided on site?

What is the gradient of the ramp?

If all tipping bays are occupied where will lorries wait?

How many lorries can queue and what is the length of the space available?

How many lorries can be accommodated at the out going traffic light? What
is the length of the queueing space?

Please send us electonic copies of all this information.

 

6. Herts Highways objected to 46 lorry movements requested by Veolia at
the at the time of their Feilde’s Lock Power Station Planning Application
in 2012 I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that
was used to inform this objection  What information do you hold concerning
this 2012 application with regard to transport?  Please send us electronic
copies of this information.

 

7. With regard to the appication for a sustainable energy facility in
Rattys Lane Hoddesdon in 2010  "There shall be no more than 76 HGV Lorry
movements (38 in/38 out) at the site on any one working day.

Reason:  In the interests of highway safety and so that there shall be no
adverse effect upon the free and safe flow of traffic along the highway in
the vicinity of the site." 

{Herts CC Report on 7/12/2010 to DCC re proposed Sustainable Energy
Facility, Rattys Lane  Hoddesdon [ATT and AD facilities]

5 Consultations p.7]

 

I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that was used
to inform this decision.

What information do you hold concerning this 2010 application with regard
to transport? 

Please send electronic  copies of this information.

 

 

Your request for information has been considered under the Environmental
Information Regulations 2004. I can confirm that Hertfordshire County
Council does hold the information you have requested and can respond as
follows:

 

1. (para 8) - "It should be noted that the new facility will process all
of Hertfordshire's waste meaning there will be less total vehicle
kilometres travelled (much of it is currently transported out of the
county).  Therefore the development will help sustainability in a wider
highways context."   [Herts Highways Memorandum 21/9/17]

I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that was used
to inform and support this claim.

This would include full details of total current milages incurred in
current waste disposal and full details of total milages incurred with
regard to the operation of the proposed 350,000tonnes pa incinerator.

 

·         This statement is made on the basis of the information contained
in paragraph 6.1.6 of the applicant’s Transport Assessment document. The
Transport Assessment is publically available on the Planning Authority’s’
website.

 

The relevant paragraph within the Transport Assessment reads as follows:

 

“It should be noted that the residual municipal waste generated within HCC
boundaries is currently transported to six main locations including
Cambridgeshire, Oxfordshire, Buckinghamshire, London and only one location
within Hertfordshire. The proposed development seeks to process all of
HCC’s residual municipal waste within the county. This is therefore a more
sustainable approach, which will significantly reduce the total vehicle
kilometres associated with transporting this waste”.

 

 

2  "6.3 The modelling files have been requested by the Highway Authority,
and these have been sent by the applicant. Our Traffic Data and Modelling
team have checked these and found that they are robust." [Herts Highways
Memorandum21/9/17] Please send us electronic copies of all relevant
information that was used to inform the decision that the monitoring was
robust with respect to Veolia's planning application for 2 Rattys Lane,
Hoddesdon, EN11 0RF What related documents do you know to be held by other
parties?

 

·         Please see the attached two e-mails dated 30^th Jan 2017 and
1^st Feb 2017. Within these, the e-mail history shows the Highway
Authority asked the applicant’s Transport Consultant for copies of the
model files, and they also show the comments/approval from our Traffic
Data and Modelling team who checked them using JUNCTION8 software.

 

We are not aware of any related documents held by other parties.

 

Please note, names and third party personal data have been redacted from
the attached documents in compliance with the Data Protection Act 1998, as
the County Council does not consider there is a public interest in
releasing this information.

 

 

3. Signalisation of Ratty’s Lane -  9.1.iii  "A revised Linsig model has
been submitted which demonstrates this works, with minimal queueing on all
approaches." [Herts Highways Memorandum  21/9/17] I request electronic
copies of the revised Linsig model.

What related documents do you know to be held by other parties?

 

·         The file you have requested is actually specialist software and
can only be accessed via a licence. If you wish to receive this file, then
you will need to either purchase the software yourself or seek a
consultant who can assist you with access.

 

Attached is an email from the 31^st of May in which the LinSig model was
referred to as being attached, this is called ‘Rattys Lane Signals’ in the
attachments provided and can only accessed as per the above.

 

However, we do hold a letter which contains the methodology used via the
LinSig model as part of the Highways Consultation. Highways outputs will
simply be identical to the developer’s outputs at the end of their
‘Transport Responses Letter’. Therefore, please see the attached letter
named ‘Transport Responses Letter’ for this information.

 

Please note, names and third party personal data have been redacted from
the attached documents in compliance with the Data Protection Act 1998, as
the County Council does not consider there is a public interest in
releasing this information.

 

 

·         We are not aware of any related documents held by other parties.

 

 

 

 

4  HGV movements

"7.2 It has since been confirmed that the maximum time any HGV will spend
at the site is 20 minutes, and therefore the Busiest Operational Hour
(which experiences 18 HGV arrivals) can be accommodated by the HGV spaces
provided on the site". [Herts Highways Memorandum] What information to you
hold concerning how this was confirmed by Hertfordshire Highways?

Please send us electronic copies of this information.

What related documents do you know to held by third parties?

 

·         Please see attached e-mail dated 19th May 2017. This includes an
attachment called 'Transport Responses Letter' which was sent by the
applicant in answer to a number of queries/concerns raised by the Highway
Authority. One of these queries was with regards to the length of time
HGVs would spend at the site. The Letter states that “The intention is
that vehicles will spend no more than 20 minutes from arrival at site to
leaving the site and Veolia expect that most vehicles will take far less
than this”.

 

Please note, names and third party personal data have been redacted from
the attached documents in compliance with the Data Protection Act 1998, as
the County Council does not consider there is a public interest in
releasing this information.

 

·         We are not aware of any related documents held by other parties.

 

5. Additional information on accommodation of HGVs How many HGV spaces are
provided on site?

What is the gradient of the ramp?

If all tipping bays are occupied where will lorries wait?

How many lorries can queue and what is the length of the space available?

How many lorries can be accommodated at the outgoing traffic light? What
is the length of the queueing space?

Please send us electronic copies of all this information.

 

·         All of these queries are internal site layout matters not
directly related to the public highway. The information being asked is
included in the details submitted by the applicant within their formal
application submission, and can already be publically found on the
Planning Authority’s website.

 

Under Regulation 6(1)(b) of the EIR 2004 relating to information already
publicly available and easily accessible to you, you may view now via our
public website. Therefore this acts as a refusal notice.

 

Planning Authority’s planning application website is:

 

[1]https://cloud1.atriumsoft.com/HCCePlanni...

 

The following reference number needs to then be entered:

 

7/0067-17. The relevant documents are ‘Application Form - no personal
data.pdf’ and ‘Appendix 6.1_Rye House ERF_Transport_Assessment.pdf’ which
is in the ‘Environmental Statement Volume 2’ folder.

 

 

 

6. Herts Highways objected to 46 lorry movements requested by Veolia at
the at the time of their Feilde’s Lock Power Station Planning Application
in 2012 I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that
was used to inform this objection  What information do you hold concerning
this 2012 application with regard to transport?  Please send us electronic
copies of this information.

 

The Highway Authority initially objected to that scheme on the basis of
‘insufficient information’. The previous application proposed that 90% of
the waste which was to be processed on the site is brought in by rail,
with 10% by road. The applicant carried out a highway capacity assessment
on that basis. However, for the sake of robustness, the Highway Authority
requested that the applicant undertake a ‘worst case scenario’ to show the
impact on the highway if all waste was brought in by road in the event
that rail access was cut off for any reason (e.g. adverse weather
conditions, engineering works on the rail line, etc). As such, the HA sent
a holding objection on the basis of insufficient information.

 

The applicant agreed to undertake this work and they went on to carry out
a highway capacity assessment of the public highway on the basis that all
waste would be brought in by road (i.e. a total of 254 HGV movements).
That new assessment revealed that there would not be a significant impact
on the free flow of traffic as a result of development trips, and as such
the Highway Authority withdrew its objection. A draft response was written
up by the Highway Authority no longer objecting to the scheme subject to
conditions and a section 106 agreement. However, this was never formally
submitted as the applicant withdrew their application before it was
possible to submit the revised consultation comments formally. Therefore,
the Highway Authority’s response to the 2012 application is only held in
draft and is incomplete with s106 figures not completed for example.

 

With regard to the above, the County Council seeks to rely on the
exception contained within Regulation 12(4)(d) of the Environmental
Information Regulations 2004, relating to material considered to be
unfinished documents and incomplete data.

 

This exception is subject to a public interest test.

 

The factors we have considered to be in favour of disclosure are:

 

o To allow individuals to better understand decisions made by the County
Council in relation to the above matter.
o To facilitate the accountability and transparency of public
authorities for decisions taken by them.

 

The factors we have considered to be in favour of disclosure are:

o It is not constructive to the public understanding of this issue for
unrevised and inaccurate information to be made available when the
information held relates to a withdrawn application.
o The information held in the draft document was not finalised or
submitted before the application was withdrawn. Therefore this is not
the final opinion of the authority as it relates to unreliable,
incomplete and therefore miss-leading information.

 

 

On balance the County Council believes that the document requested should
not be released as the application was withdrawn before a formal response
could be finalised. The document held is incomplete and inaccurate and
would provide miss-leading information and would not reflect an accurate
or final opinion of the authority as the application was withdrawn before
a full and formal response could be provided.

 

 

 

7. With regard to the application for a sustainable energy facility in
Rattys Lane Hoddesdon in 2010  "There shall be no more than 76 HGV Lorry
movements (38 in/38 out) at the site on any one working day.

Reason:  In the interests of highway safety and so that there shall be no
adverse effect upon the free and safe flow of traffic along the highway in
the vicinity of the site." 

{Herts CC Report on 7/12/2010 to DCC re proposed Sustainable Energy
Facility, Rattys Lane  Hoddesdon [ATT and AD facilities]

5 Consultations p.7]

I request electronic copies of all relevant information held that was used
to inform this decision.

What information do you hold concerning this 2010 application with regard
to transport? 

Please send electronic  copies of this information.

 

·         All electronic copies of the documents submitted as part of the
2010 sustainable energy facility application are already be publically
available on the Planning Authority’s website under reference number
7/0510-10.

 

Under Regulation 6(1)(b) of the EIR 2004 relating to information already
publicly available and easily accessible to you, you may view now via our
public website. Therefore this acts as a refusal notice.

 

 

Please follow the link provided above to question 5. The reference number
is 7/0510-10. The relevant document is ‘Appendix 6.1 - TA - May 2010
(Complete).pdf’.

 

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me, quoting
the reference above. To find out more about Freedom of Information, please
visit [2]http://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/your-cou...

 

If you are unhappy with the way the County Council has handled your
request for information you may request an internal review of the request.
This will be carried out by a member of the County Council Legal Services
Team, who has had no prior involvement with the request. Requests for an
internal review should be sent to the Information Governance Unit at the
address above.

 

If you are unhappy with the outcome of the internal review you are
entitled to ask the Information Commissioner to investigate your
complaint. You should write to: FOI/EIR Complaints Resolution, Information
Commissioner's Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9
5AF.

 

 

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Dear Information Governance,

Thank you for the information.

With regard to Point 1 - I am surprised to discover from your response given re sustainability, that Herts Highways merely regurgitated the applicant's claim and supported it with out having the necessary data to check the claim itself.

With regard to. the signalisation of Ratty's Lane, the information does not give the dates when those businesses in Ratty's Lane were consulted and their agreement to the signalisation.

Yours sincerely,

Jan Metcalf

Information Governance, Hertfordshire County Council

Dear Ms Metcalf,

With regards to the below, can you confirm if you are requesting additional information.

Information Access Team
Hertfordshire County Council
Telephone: 01992 555848 (25848) 
Email: [Hertfordshire County Council request email]
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Dear Information Governance,

Thank you for the information.

With regard to Point 1 - I am surprised to discover from your response given re sustainability, that Herts Highways merely regurgitated the applicant's claim and supported it with out having the necessary data to check the claim itself.

With regard to. the signalisation of Ratty's Lane, the information does not give the dates when those businesses in Ratty's Lane were consulted and their agreement to the signalisation.

Yours sincerely,

Jan Metcalf

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Dear Information Governance,
I am still awaiting confirmation of the dates when the businesses in Ratty's Lane were consulted regarding the signalisation. Presumably you would not have sanctioned the signals without evidence of this consultation.

Yours sincerely,

Jan Metcalf

Dear Information Governance,
I am still awaiting confirmation of the dates when the businesses in Ratty's Lane were consulted regarding the signalisation. Presumably you would not have sanctioned the signals without evidence of this consultation.

Yours sincerely,

Jan Metcalf

Information Governance, Hertfordshire County Council

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Dear Jan Metcalf,

 

We responded to you on the 2nd January 2018 asking if you were requesting
additional information in relation to ref: EIR/ENV/11/17/14441. We have
not yet received a response from you to that email. This is attached for
your information.

 

On the 2^nd January 2018 we received the below from you:

 

With regard to Point 1 - I am surprised to discover from your response
given re sustainability, that Herts Highways merely regurgitated the
applicant's claim and supported it with out having the necessary data to
check the claim itself. 

 

With regard to the signalisation of Ratty's Lane, the information does not
give the dates when those businesses in Ratty's Lane were consulted and
their agreement to the signalisation.

 

On the 2^nd January 2018 we asked if this was a request for information,
we have not received a response.

 

 

Your question today is;

 

I am still awaiting confirmation of the dates when the businesses in
Ratty's Lane were consulted regarding the signalisation.  Presumably you
would not have sanctioned the signals without evidence of this
consultation.

 

As you have not asked these questions in your previous request dealt with
under ref: EIR/ENV/11/17/14441 and it is clear you are seeking this
information. This will now be treated as a new request and has been logged
under reference as provided above. We will respond to you as soon as
possible and before close of plan on the 29^th January 2018.

 

 

Yours sincerely

 

Miss Carrie Harwood

 

Information Access Team

Information Governance

Hertfordshire County Council

Telephone: 01992 555848 (25848) 

Email: [1][Hertfordshire County Council request email]

 

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Dear Jan Mecalf,

 

Reference number: EIR/ENV/01/18/14779

 

On the 2^nd January 2018 we received the below from you:

 

With regard to Point 1 - I am surprised to discover from your response
given re sustainability, that Herts Highways merely regurgitated the
applicant's claim and supported it with out having the necessary data to
check the claim itself. 

 

With regard to the signalisation of Ratty's Lane, the information does not
give the dates when those businesses in Ratty's Lane were consulted and
their agreement to the signalisation.

 

On the 2^nd January 2018 we asked if this was a request for information,
we did not receive a response.

 

On the 11^th January 2018 you wrote to us with the following;

 

I am still awaiting confirmation of the dates when the businesses in
Ratty's Lane were consulted regarding the signalisation.  Presumably you
would not have sanctioned the signals without evidence of this
consultation.

 

 

Your request for information has been considered under the Environmental
Information Regulations 2004. I can confirm that Hertfordshire County
Council does hold the information you have requested and can respond as
follows:

 

Hertfordshire Highways are consultees, not consulters and do not hold
information other than the information they have been consulted on which
is already published on the Planning Portal.

 

Ratty’s Lane is a private road over which Hertfordshire Highways have no
direct jurisdiction as it is not part of an adopted highway and not
maintained at public expense. Therefore our Planning department who are
handling the planning application have provided a response to your request
as follows;

 

The adjacent businesses were consulted on the planning application on the
19th January 2017 as part of the wider consultation that was carried out
with the local community.  We subsequently re-consulted everybody in 23^rd
August 2017 when further information was submitted by the applicant.  The
plans attached to the planning application (which we consulted on) would
have shown the proposed signalisation of Ratty’s Lane. Please find
attached copies of the two consultation letters sent out to the consultees
and the link below to the planning application page;

 

[1]https://cloud1.atriumsoft.com/HCCePlanni...

 

 

In addition, Veolia made it plain that they would need an agreement from
the owner of Ratty’s Lane before they are able to install the traffic
signals.  They have previously advised that such an agreement exists,
although we propose to guarantee that these measures take place through
the imposition of a condition attached to the planning permission.

 

 

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me, quoting
the reference above. To find out more about Freedom of Information, please
visit [2]http://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/your-cou...

 

If you are unhappy with the way the County Council has handled your
request for information you may request an internal review of the request.
This will be carried out by a member of the County Council Legal Services
Team, who has had no prior involvement with the request. Requests for an
internal review should be sent to the Information Governance Unit at the
address above.

 

If you are unhappy with the outcome of the internal review you are
entitled to ask the Information Commissioner to investigate your
complaint. You should write to: FOI/EIR Complaints Resolution, Information
Commissioner's Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9
5AF.

 

 

Yours sincerely

 

Miss Carrie Harwood

 

Information Access Team

Information Governance

Hertfordshire County Council

Telephone: 01992 555848 (25848) 

Email: [3][Hertfordshire County Council request email]

 

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Freedom of Information and Environmental Information Regulations activity.

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intended for the addressee only unless explicitly stated. If you have
received this message in error it must be deleted and the sender notified.
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of Hertfordshire County Council unless explicitly stated. Please be aware
that emails sent to or received from Hertfordshire County Council may be
intercepted and read by the council. Interception will only occur to
ensure compliance with council policies or procedures or regulatory
obligations, to prevent or deter crime, or for the purposes of essential
maintenance or support of the email system.

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