Information concerning child sex exploitation
Dear Independent Office for Police Conduct,
Would you please send a copy of the 2006 Collins Report. Here is the context: http://www.childabuselaw.co.uk/tag/cse/
"In 2006 the Collins report on sexual offences against 17-year-old and under took place. Sup’t Matt Jukes required district and force PPUs to identify CSE early."
The reference to the Collins report is a quote of the words of the force prosecutor during the Dave Walker disciplinary hearing.
Yours faithfully,
stygian
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Dear Stygian
Thank you for your information request. We have conducted searches of our systems based on the information provided to establish whether we hold this report, however this has not yielded any results. We have therefore concluded that this information is not held by the IOPC.
As the reference to the report was noted in a record of a disciplinary hearing conducted by South Yorkshire Police, you may be advised to redirect your request to them.
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Dear Independent Office for Police Conduct,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Independent Office for Police Conduct's handling of my FOI request 'Information concerning child sex exploitation'.
The contents of the Collins Report would have potentially been vital to the information being investigated by the IOPC.
It is inconceivable that the IOPC does not have that report.
Please look again at this request.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/i...
Thank you for your advice.
Yours faithfully,
stygian
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Dear Stygian
Thank you for your email. We will conduct an internal review of our original FOIA response and expect to provide you with our findings on or before 10 July 2023.
Please note that there is no statutory requirement or time limit within the FOIA for carrying out an internal review. However, the Commissioner considers that internal reviews should normally be done, if requested, and take no longer than 20 working days and never longer than 40 working days.
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Dear Stygian
Thank you for your email. We have reviewed our handling of your request and this email serves to explain the process and searches that we undertook before concluding that we do not appear to hold relevant information.
We conducted extensive searches of our systems linked to Operation Linden, and another linked Operation, based on the information available in your request. As the document was referred to as 'the Collins Report', we have made a reasonable assumption that you were seeking a report or document authored or compiled by 'Collins' connected to child sexual exploitation.
We considered the titles of documents registered against the relevant accounts but found there was no document entitled 'Collins Report'. We broadened our searches and undertook further interrogation of our systems using the data available from the request to try to identify the report. This action yielded some potential results that required further scrutiny. However on closer inspection, none of the documents located by our further searches could be described as meeting the description of the 'Collins Report'.
We would like to emphasise that the reference to this 'report' is made in an article published by South Yorkshire Police and would reiterate our advice that you should consider approaching the force to request this information or to seek further specific details regarding the title, author, date, and contents of the report that may facilitate system searches. Otherwise we consider that we have undertaken reasonable and proportionate searches of our systems and documents based on the scant information provided and we have concluded that, on the balance of probabilities, we do not hold the information requested.
As you may be aware, you can complain to the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) if you are dissatisfied with this response. Contact details are available at www.ico.org.uk .
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Dear !Request Info,
6 July 2023
Thank you for your reply.
For your information, SYP have also denied any knowledge of the document that they have referenced.
SYP appear to have looked for the document in places other that where it can be found.
SYP also denied knowledge, despite the massive publicity, of Tony Brookes whistleblowing about an order to cease investigating child sex exploitation, but a metadata request revealed internal communications that they DID know.
This must therefore raise serious questions as to whether SYP can be trusted with regards CSE issues and associated information.
Before this request can either be closed or referred to the ICO, I now request the metadata for this request.
Yours sincerely,
stygian
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Dear 'Stygian'
Thank you for your email.
We have decided that your request is invalid because it does not meet the requirements of section 8 of the FOIA.
Section 8(1)(b) of the FOIA requires that a request for information must include the name of the requester. Guidance from the Information Commissioner’s Office stipulates that, for a request to be valid, the requester must provide enough of their real name to give a reasonable indication of their identity.
As 'Stygian' is not a full name, your request does not meet the requirement of section 8(1)(b) of the FOIA, with the result that we are not obliged to comply. We have also noted that the style of your correspondence bears strong similarities and follows a similar pattern to previous requests received from a different ‘WhatDoTheyKnow’ user account and strongly suspect that the latest requests are being made using a pseudonym of 'Stygian' in order to continue with a campaign of disruption that has been deemed to be vexatious. We will not be complyng with this request on the basis that it is invalid but will reconsider our decision if you can provide proof of your identity.
Information regarding acceptable proofs of identity can be found on our website here: https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/who-we-.... Any proofs of identity should be sent using a private correspondence address rather than the 'WhatDoTheyKnow website.
We trust that this explains our position.
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Dear !Request Info,
As we have already exchanged emails, and as my email address and identity is to be found on these pages, I refute your claim to refuse to process my request.
I have been the subject of trolls, so am understandably cautious, as I do not wish to be subjected to further abuse.
However, for this occasion, my identity is
brightonmb-at-yahoo-dot-co-dot-uk
Please respect this.
The reason for using wdtk is because these issues are very important and of significant public interest.
There can be nothing vexatious about seeking information, in an open, transparent and accountable manner, about child sex exploitation.
Accordingly, all replies must be through these pages.
There is absolutely no intention to cause disruption, solely to seek information that is important for survivors to facilitate a pathway to closure.
I am aware that there are several other people ( at least six to my knowledge ) who have very similar projects, so it is understandable that such people learn from each other's posts in the public domain, and there may be some overlap for some issues, although each are independent.
Yours sincerely,
stygian
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Dear 'Stygian'
Thank you for your email however our position has not changed. We currently consider that your information request is invalid and require proof of identity and private email address for the reasons stated in our previous correspondence.
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Dear !Request Info,
If you look in this thread you will see that I have provided the information you have requested.
My private email is above and you may check your records.
Please process this request for information.
Yours sincerely,
stygian
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Dear 'Stygian'
You have not provided a full name nor proof of identity as requested in our previous correspondence. We maintain that this request is invalid. Please contact [email address] via a private correspondence address to progress this request.
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Dear !Request Info,
Dear IOPC,
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/i... 24 May 2023
I asked for the Collins Report.
Your substantive response was on 12 June, with no reference to identity.
Your response was ‘no information held.
On 12 June I asked for a review.
On 6 July you maintained your position.
On 6 July I asked for the case metadata.
On 7 July you refused the request on the grounds of lack of identity.
On 7 July I wrote:
“Dear !Request Info,
As we have already exchanged emails, and as my email address and identity is to be found on these pages, I refute your claim to refuse to process my request.
I have been the subject of trolls, so am understandably cautious, as I do not wish to be subjected to further abuse.
However, for this occasion, my identity is
brightonmb-at-yahoo-dot-co-dot-uk
Please respect this.”
On 12 July you maintained your position, ignoring my statement of 7 July.
On 13 July I stated that I had given you my email address.
On 14 July you maintained your position.
Reply of 16 July 2023
I have mentioned that you already have my email.
You also have my identity.
Please refer to the email of 20 October 2022.
Date complaint received by IOPC: 06.10.2022.
This concerned the abuse of two boys and the unexplained loss by South Yorkshire Police of a disc containing recordings, film, photographs and documents.
SYP did not reply and you did not follow up.
The boys continue to be abused to this day.
Therefore, you have my personal email and know full well my identity.
You have replied to my original request and my request for review.
However, it is only when I asked for the metadata that you raise an issue.
It is noted that the IOPC has a history of refusing information that is associated with child abuse.
Please respond ONLY via these whatdotheyknow pages.
Yours sincerely,
stygian
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hawlfraint. Dim ond y derbynnydd arfaethedig ddylai eu defnyddio. Os ydych
chi wedi derbyn y neges hon trwy gamgymeriad, peidiwch â dosbarthu, copïo
neu gymryd unrhyw gamau sydd yn dibynnu ar y cynnwys. Yn lle, rhowch wybod
i’r anfonwr ac wedyn dileu’r neges yn barhaol os gwellwch yn dda. Barn yr
awdur yn unig yw’r safbwynt a barn a fynegir hyn ac nid o reidrwydd yn
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hwn nac unrhyw atodiadau. Er bod e-byst yn cael eu sganio’n rheolaidd, ni
all yr IOPC gymryd unrhyw gyfrifoldeb am unrhyw firws y gellir ei
drosglwyddo gyda’r rhyngrwyd. Mae systemau cyfathrebu IOPC yn cael eu
monitro i’r graddau a ganiateir gan y gyfraith. O ganlyniad, gall unrhyw
e-bost a neu atodiadau gael ei ddarllen gan staff monitro.
Dear Stygian
We have explained our position and the reasons we will not be taking, what we consider to be, this invalid request forward. We have explained that as 'Stygian' is not a full name, your request does not meet the requirement of section 8(1)(b) of the FOIA, with the result that we are not obliged to comply. We have also noted that the style of your correspondence bears strong similarities and follows a similar pattern to previous requests received from a different ‘WhatDoTheyKnow’ user account and strongly suspect that the latest requests are being made using a pseudonym of 'Stygian' in order to continue with a campaign of disruption that has been deemed to be vexatious.
As we have explained, we will reconsider our decision if you can provide proof of your identity which you should do via a private email address. You have provided a date of an email you say you have previously sent in 2022, however, we receive a high volume of email enquiries and is not proportionate to trawl through previous email correspondence from 2022 to try to validate your identity. We have explained how this matter can be resolved and the proofs of identity required. As we have now explained our position a number of times, please be aware that further emails regarding this matter will be read and added to the file but may not be responded to.
Yours sincerely
The FOI and DPA Team
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Dear !Request Info,
I sent you an email from my private email address on 16 July, which was acknowledged by yourselves.
Here is what was sent:
Dear IOPC,
[email address]
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/i... 24 May 2023
I asked for the Collins Report.
Your substantive response was on 12 June, with no reference to identity.
Your response was ‘no information held.
On 12 June I asked for a review.
On 6 July you maintained your position.
On 6 July I asked for the case metadata.
On 7 July you refused the request on the grounds of lack of identity.
On 7 July I wrote:
“Dear !Request Info,
As we have already exchanged emails, and as my email address and identity is to be found on these pages, I refute your claim to refuse to process my request.
I have been the subject of trolls, so am understandably cautious, as I do not wish to be subjected to further abuse.
However, for this occasion, my identity is
brightonmb-at-yahoo-dot-co-dot-uk
Please respect this.”
On 12 July you maintained your position, ignoring my statement of 7 July.
On 13 July I stated that I had given you my email address.
On 14 July you maintained your position.
Reply of 16 July 2023
I have mentioned that you already have my email.
You also have my identity.
Please refer to the email of 20 October 2022.
Date complaint received by IOPC: 06.10.2022.
This concerned the abuse of two boys and the unexplained loss by South Yorkshire Police of a disc containing recordings, film, photographs and documents.
SYP did not reply and you did not follow up.
The boys continue to be abused to this day.
Therefore, you have my personal email and know full well my identity.
You have replied to my original request and my request for review.
However, it is only when I asked for the metadata that you raise an issue.
It is noted that the IOPC has a history of refusing information that is associated with child abuse.
Please respond ONLY via these whatdotheyknow pages.
Stygian
= = = = =
You have written:
"We have also noted that the style of your correspondence bears strong similarities and follows a similar pattern to previous requests received from a different ‘WhatDoTheyKnow’ user account and strongly suspect that the latest requests are being made using a pseudonym of 'Stygian' in order to continue with a campaign of disruption that has been deemed to be vexatious."
I refute your accusation.
There is no campaign of disruption and it is not vexatious to seek information about something as serious as child sex exploitation.
Please post on these pages the evidence for your statement.
You have stated that you are unwilling to locate my email, for which I gave precise dates.
It would take you not more than two minutes to find the email(s), so 'trawling' is not an appropriate excuse.
This is an automated email please do not respond to it.
Thank you for your email.
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We welcome correspondence in Welsh. We will respond to you in Welsh and
this will not lead to delay.
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Gall y neges hon gynnwys gwybodaeth gyfrinachol, freintiedig neu
hawlfraint. Dim ond y derbynnydd arfaethedig ddylai eu defnyddio. Os ydych
chi wedi derbyn y neges hon trwy gamgymeriad, peidiwch â dosbarthu, copïo
neu gymryd unrhyw gamau sydd yn dibynnu ar y cynnwys. Yn lle, rhowch wybod
i’r anfonwr ac wedyn dileu’r neges yn barhaol os gwellwch yn dda. Barn yr
awdur yn unig yw’r safbwynt a barn a fynegir hyn ac nid o reidrwydd yn
cynrychioli barn yr IOPC. Dim ond staff penodol sydd ag awdurdod i wneud
cytundebau rhwymol ar ran yr IOPC trwy e-bost. Nid yw’r IOPC yn derbyn
unrhyw gyfrifoldeb am gytundebau diawdurdod y daethpwyd iddynt gyda
gweithwyr neu asiantau eraill. Ni all yr IOPC sicrhau diogelwch yr e-bost
hwn nac unrhyw atodiadau. Er bod e-byst yn cael eu sganio’n rheolaidd, ni
all yr IOPC gymryd unrhyw gyfrifoldeb am unrhyw firws y gellir ei
drosglwyddo gyda’r rhyngrwyd. Mae systemau cyfathrebu IOPC yn cael eu
monitro i’r graddau a ganiateir gan y gyfraith. O ganlyniad, gall unrhyw
e-bost a neu atodiadau gael ei ddarllen gan staff monitro.
Dear Independent Office for Police Conduct,
30 August 2023
Please be advised that I have complied with all your requests for confirmation of identity.
Therefore there is no valid reason why you can not respond with the case metadata.
Please provide the metadata, as requested on 6 July 2023.
I have taken advice, and the IOPC, having responded earlier without issue, are now in a position of having breached S10 of the FoIA, and potentially S77.
On 24 May 2023 you were informed:
"In 2006 the Collins report on sexual offences against 17-year-old and under took place. Sup’t Matt Jukes required district and force PPUs to identify CSE early."
On 12 June 2023 you advised contacting South Yorkshire Police for the Collins Report.
On 6 July 2023 I responded:
6 July 2023
Thank you for your reply.
For your information, SYP have also denied any knowledge of the document that they have referenced.
SYP appear to have looked for the document in places other that where it can be found.
SYP also denied knowledge, despite the massive publicity, of Tony Brookes whistleblowing about an order to cease investigating child sex exploitation, but a metadata request revealed internal communications that they DID know.
This must therefore raise serious questions as to whether SYP can be trusted with regards CSE issues and associated information.
Matt Jukes, now a senior officer in The Met, has refused point-blank to answer any questions relating to child sex exploitation during his employment by South Yorkshire Police.
This must therefore raise serious concerns as to whether The Met can be trusted with regards CSE issues and associated information.
Additional information from a disciplinary hearing:
http://www.childabuselaw.co.uk/2022/03/r...
"10:30 AM chair-Simon Mallet panel members Simon Burrill (superintendent) and Jane Broadford, public representative.
Dave Walker is represented by Ryan Donaghue. Present also are Johnie Old of South Yorkshire police and Mick Whitehouse of South Yorkshire police, Sarah Bromfield of police standards department and Daniel Hobb, counsel for South Yorkshire police."
From the above, ALL of those named will have had a copy of the Collins Report.
Not for the first time have South Yorkshire Police found to have made irreconcilably inconsistent statements that in effect covered up information relating to child sex exploitation.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/t...
Therefore we now have three issues:
a) South Yorkshire Police, which referenced the Collins Report in their own documentation concerning alleged cover-ups of child sex exploitation, could and should be subject to investigation by the IOPC.
( It is not understood why the IOPC has not already done so. )
b) I am still awaiting the receipt of the metadata relating to this case.
c) The Met Police could and should be investigated by the IOPC.
( It is not understood why the IOPC has not already done so. )
This matter is also being brought to the attention of the Information Commissioner.
Yours faithfully,
stygian
P.S.
The wdtk web site has a right-hand column that links to similar requests, and this one came up:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/t...
It would appear that the IOPC is part of the problem, not a solution that facilitates closure for the thousands of victims and survivors of child sex exploitation.
See also:
https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/uk-column...
at 36:18
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Gymraeg ac ni fydd hyn yn arwain at oedi.
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it. Any views or opinions expressed in this communication are solely those
of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of the IOPC. Only
specified staff are authorised to make binding agreements on behalf of the
IOPC by email. The IOPC accepts no responsibility for unauthorised
agreements reached with other employees or agents. The IOPC cannot
guarantee the security of this email or any attachments. While emails are
regularly scanned, the IOPC cannot take any liability for any virus that
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monitored to the extent permitted by law. Consequently, any email and or
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Gall y neges hon a'i chynnwys gynnwys gwybodaeth gyfrinachol, freintiedig
neu hawlfraint. Fe'u bwriedir at ddefnydd y derbynnydd arfaethedig yn
unig. Os derbynioch y neges hon mewn camgymeriad, mae'n rhaid i chi beidio
â datgelu, copïo, dosbarthu na chymryd unrhyw gamau sy'n dibynnu ar y
cynnwys. Yn hytrach, rhowch wybod i'r anfonwr ac yna dilëwch ef yn
barhaol. Mae unrhyw farn neu safbwyntiau a fynegir yn y cyfathrebiad hwn
yn eiddo i’r awdur yn unig ac nid ydynt o reidrwydd yn cynrychioli barn yr
IOPC. Dim ond staff penodedig sydd wedi'u hawdurdodi i wneud cytundebau
rhwymol ar ran yr IOPC trwy e-bost. Nid yw’r IOPC yn derbyn unrhyw
gyfrifoldeb am gytundebau anawdurdodedig y daethpwyd iddynt â gweithwyr
neu asiantau eraill. Ni all yr IOPC warantu diogelwch yr e-bost hwn nac
unrhyw atodiadau. Tra bod negeseuon e-bost yn cael eu sganio’n rheolaidd,
ni all yr IOPC gymryd unrhyw gyfrifoldeb am unrhyw firws y gellir ei
drosglwyddo â’r rhyngrwyd. Mae systemau cyfathrebu’r IOPC yn cael eu
monitro i’r graddau a ganiateir gan y gyfraith. O ganlyniad, gall unrhyw
e-bost a/neu atodiadau gael eu darllen gan staff monitro.
Dear Stygian
We refer you to our email correspondence of 16 July 2023 regarding this matter. Our position remains the same.
Yours sincerely
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