Independant evidence for GIRFEC

Kayley Hutton made this Freedom of Information request to Scottish Government

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Dear Scottish Government,

Aileen Campbell MSP has stated in a letter recently that there was independant evidence to show that GIRFEC and the named person approach improves outcomes for children and young people. Could you please provide me with this evidence including details of any studies undertaken and who undertook them? If you could provide the results of any studies as they are rather than just the end reports alone they would be much appreciated. Thank you

Yours faithfully,

Kayley Hutton

Sent request to Scottish Government again, using a new contact address.

Ganesh Sittampalam left an annotation ()

The Scottish Government got in touch to say they didn't have any record of receiving this request by email, so I have resent it to another address requested by them.

Our mail logs show that the request was successfully delivered to their advertised mail server.

Ganesh - WhatDoTheyKnow volunteer

Scottish Government

Dear Kayley
 
I have been passed your request relating to the GIRFEC Programme and can
confirm that we will respond to you as quickly as possible and certainly
within 20 days of the request. Please use our reference FoI/13/01208 in
any further correspondence. I can be contacted directly on 0131 244 0679.
Yours,
 
David Hunter
 
David Hunter
Senior Policy Advisor
Getting it Right for Every Child Team
The Scottish Government
Victoria Quay, Edinburgh EH6 6QQ
Telephone : 0131 244 0679; BlackBerry: 07769 163 390; [mobile number].
 
 
 
 

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Dear Scottish Government,

There has been no reply in the 20 days you previously stated. Can I please confirm that this request is being dealt with and will be with me within the usual 40 day limit?

Yours faithfully,

Kayley Hutton

Scottish Government

Dear Ms Hutton

As originally stated, we set out to reply to you within 20 working days, which takes us up to 22 August 2013. We are confident you will receive a reply by that date.

A reply has in fact been drafted and circulated for comment from appropriate colleagues and the text of that response has been agreed. It also, though, requires to be cleared by the office of the Minister Responsible before being issued. Once we have that clearance we will be in touch with you immediately.

Many thanks for your patience. As I said before, I'm happy to discuss any of this with you, if that would be helpful, and if you'd like to do so you need only give me a ring or drop me an email.

Regards

David

David Hunter
Senior Policy Advisor
Getting it Right for Every Child Team
The Scottish Government
Victoria Quay, Edinburgh EH6 6QQ
Telephone : 0131 244 0679; [mobile number].

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Scottish Government

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Dear Ms Hutton

Please find attached our response to your Freedom of Information request - received by me on the 23rd of July 2013.

If I can help further please do let me know.

Regards

David

David Hunter
Senior Policy Advisor
Getting it Right for Every Child Team
The Scottish Government
Victoria Quay, Edinburgh EH6 6QQ
Telephone : 0131 244 0679; BlackBerry: 07769 163 390; [mobile number].

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Dear Ms Hutton

Please excuse me but I have noticed a small error on the header of the document I sent you earlier. This does not affect the text of our reply at all, but for the sake of accuracy, I'm sending you an amended copy. Please ignore or destroy the earlier email. Many thanks

David

David Hunter
Senior Policy Advisor
Getting it Right for Every Child Team
The Scottish Government
Victoria Quay, Edinburgh EH6 6QQ
Telephone : 0131 244 0679; BlackBerry: 07769 163 390; [mobile number].

Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or
recorded for legal purposes.

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Scottish Government

Hunter D (David) would like to recall the message, "Freedom of Information Request - Scottish Government, GIRFEC Programme - From Kayley Hutton".

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sheila struthers left an annotation ()

I take it the header error in the earlier document, which David Hunter now wants to recall, is the "ANNEX A" (seen clearly at the top).

Wonder how that slipped in? The obvious answer is that before it was sent it was an add on to a larger document.

Alison Preuss left an annotation ()

Pointing the requester to public domain information surely does not requite ministerial office clearance, as intimated in the holding response. Furthermore, a paid-for, cheerleading report by vested interests in GIRFEC is categorically not evidence of its benefits to *every* child, no matter how many times the Big Lie is repeated by those who seek to prescribe childhood and family life.

Dear Mr Hunter,

Although I have much appreciation for your time this was not the information I requested. I had specifically asked for the raw data and not just the report at the end. Also the 2 people who have written this report were paid over £372,000 by the same scottish government who want to implement GIRFEC into law to write the report and seem to have been champions of it, doing seminars and speeches etc. This is not independent either. Aileen Campbell MSP stated that it was independent research. Research also usually means test situations, control groups, longditudal studies. This states quite clearly at the beginning of the report that implementing GIRFEC was tested alongside other methods. Is there any real research she was refering that you are able to forward to me to or does the scottish government not have the information requested?

Thank you again for you response

Yours faithfully,

Kayley Hutton

James Munro left an annotation ()

Has anyone sought to request the Legal Advice given the Scotty Gov on Bill?

Alison Preuss left an annotation ()

Liz Smith MSP has certainly asked for it, among others, but so far they're not willing to 'share' that data with thse whose lives will be affected by their sinister plans.

Meanwhile, all the lawyers who submitted written evidence to committee have cited the same breaches of Article 8 and the DP Act to slam the provisions which we as families are all so concerned about.

See: http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/parlia...

In particular, note the submissions by:
cl@n childlaw
Faculty of Advocates
Govan Law Centre
Halyn Hughes
Law Society of Scotland
Tristram Llewelyn-Jones
Professor Kenneth Norrie, Professor of Law, Strathclyde University
Allan Norman on behalf of Schoolhouse HEA
Scottish Child Law Centre

Scottish Government

Dear Ms Hutton

In response to your query about the raw data this is not held by the Scottish Government.

While the Scottish Government paid the relevant costs associated with the evaluation it was conducted by the staff of the Department in Edinburgh University under the guidance and procedures of that Department. The methodology is described in the Report at Appendix 1. The Department was responsible for the delivery of the report. Any request to see the raw data should be directed to them.

When presenting at seminars/ conferences the evaluators were speaking as Edinburgh University academics presenting explanations of their approach and, when available, the findings from the pathfinder evaluation.

I trust this answers your queries.

Regards

David

David Hunter
Senior Policy Advisor
Getting it Right for Every Child Team
The Scottish Government
Victoria Quay, Edinburgh EH6 6QQ
Telephone : 0131 244 0679; BlackBerry: 07769 163 390; [mobile number].

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