IDENT1 contract
Ganesh Sittampalam made this Freedom of Information request to National Policing Improvement Agency
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Dear Sir or Madam,
I request a copy of the contract plus any appendices and indexes for the IDENT1 system, as referred to in the Information Commissioner's recent decision notice FS50125350.
Yours faithfully,
Ganesh Sittampalam
Dear Ganesh Sittampalam
Thank you for your recent request for information, about IDENT1 contract, dated 7th July 2009. Your request was received on 7th July 2009 and I am dealing with it under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
We have logged your request which is receiving our attention. Your request reference number is 46823.
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NPIA FOI TEAM
National Policing Improvement Agency
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Dear Ganesh Sittampalam
Please find attached the NPIA's response to your request.
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NPIA FOI TEAM
National Policing Improvement Agency
Email: [NPIA request email]
Website: www.npia.police.uk
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Dear NPIA FOI Team,
Your response appears to only include schedules M-W - is that an oversight?
Yours sincerely,
Ganesh Sittampalam
Dear Ganesh Sittampalam
Please accept our apologies as this was an oversight on our part.
Please see attached the remaining attachments to your response.
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NPIA FOI TEAM
National Policing Improvement Agency
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Dear NPIA FOI Team,
Thanks very much. I notice that Schedule E is still missing; if it's your intention to withhold this please could you provide a proper refusal notice stating the exemption(s) and public interest arguments as appropriate?
Thanks,
Ganesh
Dear Ganesh,
Thank you for your response.
Our interpretation of your request was for those Schedules referred to in the Information Commissioners Decision Notice (Case Ref: FS50125350). Schedule E was considered exempt information, a point conceded and not pursued by the original applicant, and therefore it was not considered by the Information Commissioner as part of his decision.
I have logged this request for Schedule E, as a new request (ref: 46855)
Regards,
Andy Woodgate
FOI Compliance Manager
National Policing Improvement Agency
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Dear Andy,
I'm sorry you misinterpreted my request, as I thought it was clear and unambiguous. If I had wanted just the information already released or ordered to be released, I'd have said so. I only mentioned the decision notice at all to be precise about which document I was referring to.
In any case, please consider releasing this schedule (and if not the whole thing then as much as possible) as there is a clear public interest in knowing how much the government is spending on a major IT procurement exercise such as this one and since the contract is such a bespoke one it is very unlikely to prejudice future pricing negotiations for either party.
Regards,
Ganesh
Dear Ganesh Sittampalam
Please find attached the NPIA's response to your request.
Regards
NPIA FOI TEAM
National Policing Improvement Agency
Email: [NPIA request email]
Website: www.npia.police.uk
Your Right to Complain
We take our responsibilities under the Freedom of Information Act seriously but, if you feel your request has not been properly handled or you are otherwise dissatisfied with the outcome of your request, you have the right to complain. We will investigate the matter and endeavour to reply within 3 – 6 weeks. You should write to:
David Horne
Director of Resources
National Policing Improvement Agency
10-18 Victoria Street
London
SW1H 0NN
E-mail: [email address]
If you are still dissatisfied following our internal review, you have the right, under section 50 of the Act, to complain directly to the Information Commissioner. Before considering your complaint, the Information Commissioner would normally expect you to have exhausted the complaints procedures provided by the NPIA. The Information Commissioner can be contacted at:
FOI Compliance Team (complaints)
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Further information about the NPIA is routinely published on our website at www.npia.police.uk or through our publication scheme. If you require any further assistance in connection with this request please contact us at our address above.
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Dear NPIA FOI Team,
The reply says that you are disclosing a redacted version of schedule E, but I can't spot it in anywhere - did you miss out an attachment?
Thanks,
Ganesh
Ganesh,
Apologies, here is the document.
Thanks
Andy.
Andy Woodgate
FOI Compliance Manager
National Policing Improvement Agency
Telephone: +44 (0)20 8358 5587
Dear NPIA FOI Team,
Thanks for that. Could I have an internal review of the redactions, please?
Firstly, I do not think you can apply section 41 here at all: http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/l...
Secondly, I would like you to review the application of section 43. I do not accept your assertion that pricing information for a long-running bespoke contract is likely to disclose useful information to competititors. In addition, your redactions seem to have been overly enthusiastic, in that all values have been removed from the document regardless of why they were there. These can be split into three categories:
(1) Actual prices of services
(2) Expenses [8.5.3(b)]
(3) Example figures just to demonstrate calculations
Even if you continue to redact (1) [which I also disagree with], I can see no reason for either (2) or (3) to be omitted. In the case of (3) the contract is clear that they are just for illustration, whereas in the case of (2) this is not pricing information but rather information about typical expenses incurred.
For values that you do continue to redact, please consider not redacting the entire value (e.g. £53582 could be redacted as £5xxxx), or replacing it with a range within which they fall to give an idea of the scale of the costs, in a similar way to how salary information for senior staff is disclosed. Even if precise numbers would prejudice commercial interests, the general range would not.
Finally, I think that my original request clearly stated the information I was asking for, and you breached the time limits by not sending this part in the time allowed. Omitting parts of the original request and then treating a follow-up email as a fresh request is something you were criticised for by the ICO in FS50125350 so it's disappointing to see you're still doing it.
Yours sincerely,
Ganesh Sittampalam
Dear Mr Sittampalam,
Apologies for the delay in getting back to you regarding the internal reviews that you have requested.
The delay is as a result of a change in the way that the Agency deals with Internal Reviews.
Grateful if you could bear with us for a few more weeks, we hope to be in a position to reply to you by 23rd October 2009.
Thanks
David Horne
Mr Sittampalam
Please see the attached letter from David Horne in response to your internal review application.
Many thanks
Tom
Tom Hollick
Staff Officer to David Horne
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I've just received a decision notice dated 31st August dismissing the NPIA arguments in favour of the exemptions and ordering full disclosure within 35 days (unless appealed).
Dear National Policing Improvement Agency,
I'd like to remind you that unless you have appealed this decision (FS50280571), disclosure of this information is due on October 5th.
Yours faithfully,
Ganesh Sittampalam
Dear Ganesh Sittampalam,
Please find attached the information to be released as a result of the Decision Notice .
<<NRSB99-0111 101005 schedule e 47123.pdf>>
Regards,
NPIA FOI TEAM
National Policing Improvement Agency
Email: [NPIA request email]
Website: www.npia.police.uk
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FS50280571